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Ledsteplin said:
The center had a horrible game. Rees had a good play called for that last OT play, but the snap was bad and low. Milroe had no choice but to try running into the line. It was supposed to be an RPO, with a swing pass to the RB. They had blockers set up for it. But a bad snap killed it.
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No. Roydell was a disguise to get the middle LB out of the middle. There was no RPO. Jalen can't do that. It was a run play all the way. CNS said it in the post game.
 
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davefrat said:
I'm not happy about the loss, but I'm also a bit taken aback by the reactions some are having here.

Didn't we go undefeated in the SEC, vanquish UGA, and win the SEC?

I'd say we had a darn good season all things considered.
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The bar is extremely high here. Perspective is difficult to obtain. I think most of the complaints are very valid, but when the books are written 10 and 20 years from now, there will be a lot of pride about a 12-2 season, with a 30th SEC title, and a 9-0 SEC record.
 
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davefrat said:
I'm not happy about the loss, but I'm also a bit taken aback by the reactions some are having here.

Didn't we go undefeated in the SEC, vanquish UGA, and win the SEC?

I'd say we had a darn good season all things considered.
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We are spoiled fans. I'll be first in line to admit it.

But now that we can look back with 20/20 hindsight the limitations are rather alarming.

This will always be an SEC championship team. RTR to that. The question is can this type of offense work again now that the blueprint is out on what to do to stop it and can it get us to the top again to win a NC???

Them's the questions IMO.
 
davefrat said:
I made a conscious decision a few years ago to develop a healthier perspective about Bama football.

I'm glad I did.
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I've got a very healthy balance between my love of Tide football and the most important things in my life; faith and family.

I had trouble falling to sleep Monday but when I did I slept like a baby.

Not mad at anyone. I'm just being a Alabama fan that sees where there are some gaping holes that need to be filled.
 
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BamaMoon said:
Gray, I know you get kicked a little for your pessimism every now and again, but I think you are being a "realist" in this post.
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Thanks Bama Moon. I have always tried to be a realist in all things. I do realize that in the nearly 20 years on Tidefans I have crossed the line between realism and pessimism. I truly understand the love for all things Alabama athletics, especially football, and a history unsurpassed by any other football program in the history of college football. I sometimes think this passion and love for the Crimson Tide clouds some fans' views and can be over the top. I don't fault them for their passion and zeal; I just try to view what the circumstances of the season have been or maybe without benefit of Crimson colored lenses. I love Tidefans and, hope I have not embarrassed or offended any member or visitor. Best wishes for a safe and prosperous 2024.
Roll Tide, Y'all
 
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The 2023 team was a good team, no doubt. Maybe even great. But that's about as far as I'd go. They certainly weren't phenomenal. Jenny Dell with CBS called 2023 Bama one of the best college football teams to ever take the field. And I heard others say the same, even after the Texas, South Florida and Arkansas games. I never understood what people were seeing to arrive at that conclusion. The thing about the last two seasons is, we never really had that ""wow' game. That game where we just dominated from start to finish. The last time that happened, I mean really and truly happened was the 2021 SECCG. This team was about on par with the 2014 team. Same record, same trajectory. Lost early, won out, won the conference, made the playoffs, lost in the semifinals to a B1G team.

Maybe looking back, this may be one of the best Bama teams from the standpoint of the current era. Meaning 2022 and onwards. But I wouldn't lump them in with past Saban teams. 2010 Bama playing to its potential would beat the 2023 squad handily. Granted that's just my .02
 
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Tidewater said:
My football watchin' buddy, who does not even follow college football closely, asked, "If this has been going on all year, why hasn't Coach Saban fixed it?"
Inquiring minds want to know.
If a center has a rash of bad snaps in one game, the position coach pulls him aside and says, "What's going on? You cannot do this. It screws everything else up. Get it together."
If it happens again, the position coach says, "The problem is a disqualifier for your position. It simply cannot happen. Fix it, or we go to center #2."
If it continues, the head coach pulls the position coach aside, and says, "There are few zero-defect aspects of the game, but this is one of them. Fix this or you're fired."
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The worst part of it is that the next best alternative is so bad that the botched snaps are still considered to be a better outcome.
 
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92tide said:
as is all of the sky is falling reaction
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We are not talking "sky is falling." We are talking about fixing what limited us. For every big play this year, there's a unforgivable mistake that limited the offense all year long.

Sky is falling would be we can't compete in the SEC next year. The sky is the limit is improving to win the SEC again and advance to 12 team play off and win it all.

Right now, we are way above "sky if falling" and somewhere below "the sky is the limit."

RTR!
 
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CrimsonCleanse said:
The 2023 team was a good team, no doubt. Maybe even great. But that's about as far as I'd go. They certainly weren't phenomenal. Jenny Dell with CBS called 2023 Bama one of the best college football teams to ever take the field. And I heard others say the same, even after the Texas, South Florida and Arkansas games. I never understood what people were seeing to arrive at that conclusion. The thing about the last two seasons is, we never really had that ""wow' game. That game where we just dominated from start to finish. The last time that happened, I mean really and truly happened was the 2021 SECCG. This team was about on par with the 2014 team. Same record, same trajectory. Lost early, won out, won the conference, made the playoffs, lost in the semifinals to a B1G team.

Maybe looking back, this may be one of the best Bama teams from the standpoint of the current era. Meaning 2022 and onwards. But I wouldn't lump them in with past Saban teams. 2010 Bama playing to its potential would beat the 2023 squad handily. Granted that's just my .02
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There was a radio show I was listening to yesterday and the guest interview made the statement that of the 16 Alabama teams from 2008 until 2023, this 2023 team was probably the 13th or 14th best team, and that the 2010 team would beat it by 2 TDs.

I think I agree. And it's not due to talent, but discipline. Even that team at 10-3, had more discipline than this one. The losses were largely due to injury and one game that was just a bad game against a once in a lifetime effort - South Carolina. Although I think Mark Ingram was hurt by that point in the season.

Still... being the 14th best Nick Saban team at Alabama is no small feat!
 
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BamaMoon said:
No. Roydell was a disguise to get the middle LB out of the middle. There was no RPO. Jalen can't do that. It was a run play all the way. CNS said it in the post game.
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He could have walked into the end zone if he had gone to the left. The bad snap almost certainly affected his ability to see it. Instead he panicked and ran into the wall.
 
BamaMoon said:
We are not talking "sky is falling." We are talking about fixing what limited us. For every big play this year, there's a unforgivable mistake that limited the offense all year long.

Sky is falling would be we can't compete in the SEC next year. The sky is the limit is improving to win the SEC again and advance to 12 team play off and win it all.

Right now, we are way above "sky if falling" and somewhere below "the sky is the limit."

RTR!
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and, at least in my mind, the complaints seem about the same as they were after every loss 2010 onward
 
For me it was just a bad game offensively as I seen all year. I do not understand how JM gets benched for poor performance against UT when our center has been sending snaps all over the place for 14 games now. I mean 15 bad snaps in a CFP??? Not all of the issue lies there but the play begins with that exchange every play and JM looked more like a shortstop fielding the ball than he did a QB, The OL in general took 5 steps backwards but honestly the game plan was horrible.
We could of ran outside all night and won this game by 2 TD's. It seemed Rees was determined to throw the ball whether we could block or not.
On defense I do not understand the man-to-man concept when a team does nothing but motion to throw of the concept. Why we didn't jus run a zone defense to counter the shifts is beyond belief.
 
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editder said:
He could have walked into the end zone if he had gone to the left. The bad snap almost certainly affected his ability to see it. Instead he panicked and ran into the wall.
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While I agree and have said the same thing about the swing pass, it was never a RPO. CNS said in the post game presser it was a straight QB run the whole way. Passing to Roydell was never an "option" cause it was a QB run the whole way. The play just failed on multiple levels from the snap to Latham getting manhandled to Jalen not veering to the left behind the pulling right guard.
 
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