Transfer Portal 2023-2024...

[crimsonaudio]

We'll sort of have an idea of how this is going to shake out by the end of next November, but don't be surprised if the team we end up fielding, who ever that is, is inconsistent throughout the first year. Don't' forget CNS's first year at Bama.

DeBoer doesn't have to create a culture here like Saban did, he's inheriting one.

Sure, the learning curve combined with the tough schedule means Bama might drop a few games, but with DeBoer's history of turning teams around, inheriting this kind of talent with incredible coaches (remember, Saban had Major Applewhite as his OC in 2007 - DeBoer has a *slight* upgrade there...) I'd also not be surprised to see Bama come out this fall breathing fire and flat-out scorching teams. Still a TON of talent on the roster...

 

[AlistarWills]

It’s not one high school kid. It’s half of our 5 and 4 stars players. This wasn’t handled the right way. I don’t know who’s to blame but this is not going to be good for Bama and the immediate future and possibly long term if the coaches don’t work out.

So what is/was the “right” way to handle all this? I see this comment time and time again that everything has been done “wrong” yet no one wants to say what “should” have been done.

 

[crimsonaudio]

stuart duncan is an awesome musician

So is Leland Sklar - goodness!

 

[CoolBreeze]

A few thoughts as our world crumbles.

The "skinny" picture of Mack doesn't do him justice. The kid is a load. Maybe it was a "you shop, we shop" deal with Sayin.

It's hard not to feel a little like late-80's SMU right now except we're being punished not for cheating, but because our coach retired.

I always expected Bama to take a step back when Saban left - this insane portal policy (only 20 days left, y'all!) has guaranteed it will happen sooner rather than later. DeBoer is adept at using the portal, but we have to wait till the end of spring practice before we can fully fill any talent gaps.

I respect DeBoer even more for taking this job on the heels of Saban's retirement when you factor in this hideous unlimited free agency situation. A recalibration of our expectations for this season is probably in order. I think CKD gets the job done and done well over time. I hear he's a Saban-level grinder.

Roll Tide anyway.

Recalibration is an understatement. More like expectations need to go out the window. But this is a really good coach and he has hired a pretty darn good looking staff so far. Still got a roster stocked better than about 90% of the teams out there. Hey, this is all gravy right now compared to the trajectory had we hired a lesser coach. Surprisingly, the immediate future is looking pretty good.

 

[CoolBreeze]

DeBoer doens't have to create a culture here like Saban did, he's inheriting one.

Sure, the learning curve combined with the tough schedule means Bama might drop a few games, but with DeBoer's history of turning teams around, inheriting this kind of talent with incredible coaches (remember, Saban had Major Applewhite as his OC in 2007 - DeBoer has a *slight* upgrade there...) I'd also not be surprised to see Bama come out this fall breathing fire and flat-out scorching teams. Still a TON of talent on the roster...

Preach it CA. I'm right there with you bro.

 

[Sensation77]

True to an extent. But the OL has now lost 3 of 5 starters, hard to lose much else. Seth and Proctor have transferred, Latham decided to go pro. That leaves us with Booker and Roberts, who seem bought in.

Booker and Roberts are a heck of a foundation to build off. If we get the center from UW, that should be an upgrade over what we had. Pritchett was likely gonna be starting at RT next season, and he's staying. He'll probably swap over to LT. That just leaves us needing a RT. If we don't already have someone on the roster that is viable, I expect CKD will hit the Spring portal to fill that role.

 

[BamaBoySince89]

So what is/was the “right” way to handle all this? I see this comment time and time again that everything has been done “wrong” yet no one wants to say what “should” have been done.

There is no right answer, you still have roster attrition if Saban announces week 1 or after the Rose Bowl. Everybody has a theory about what should have been done but it’s done. Coach Saban decided it was time and all you can do move quickly to get things in place in which it’s largely been done in 1 week. Let the spring and early summer come and you’ll see where the ship is headed

 

[CoolBreeze]

In my opinion Saban is responsible for this entire mess. What did he expect was going to happen with such an abrupt and unanticipated announcement on retirement. How many times did you hear him say that are consequences to your actions. OK, so he wanted to retire. Had he put a little thought into it and gone about the announcement differently we might not be losing half the team. Also Byrne hiring a relatively unknown from the other side of the country was no help. I still can't believe Saban voiced opposition to the person that been given the job. We all know the job should have been offered first and foremost to Lane Kiffin. Now we have to deal with this nonsensical NCAA rule regarding coaches leaving. There is nothing prohibiting the entire team from transferring.

Yea, could be your fault as well. Blathering nonsense is your prerogative.

 

[oskie]

In my opinion Saban is responsible for this entire mess. What did he expect was going to happen with such an abrupt and unanticipated announcement on retirement. How many times did you hear him say that are consequences to your actions. OK, so he wanted to retire. Had he put a little thought into it and gone about the announcement differently we might not be losing half the team. Also Byrne hiring a relatively unknown from the other side of the country was no help. I still can't believe Saban voiced opposition to the person that been given the job. We all know the job should have been offered first and foremost to Lane Kiffin. Now we have to deal with this nonsensical NCAA rule regarding coaches leaving. There is nothing prohibiting the entire team from transferring.

Well... Eeyore, I'm just glad you weren't calling the shots 😄

 

[Slowpoke Catracho]

In my opinion Saban is responsible for this entire mess. What did he expect was going to happen with such an abrupt and unanticipated announcement on retirement. How many times did you hear him say that are consequences to your actions. OK, so he wanted to retire. Had he put a little thought into it and gone about the announcement differently we might not be losing half the team. Also Byrne hiring a relatively unknown from the other side of the country was no help. I still can't believe Saban voiced opposition to the person that been given the job. We all know the job should have been offered first and foremost to Lane Kiffin. Now we have to deal with this nonsensical NCAA rule regarding coaches leaving. There is nothing prohibiting the entire team from transferring.

Kiffin never was an option due to his own indiscretions the last time he was here. GMAC said it and many others that know what things went on. It doesn't matter who we want them to hire.

 

[Jprid]

I didn't think much of it. Marlon was just being honest about what he would have done as a teenager with all the money being thrown around. It would have been too much to turn down. Whether or not he would have actually left is debatable. But no doubt the NFL guys are loving this money being thrown around and wishing they could have had it so good.

Alphonse Taylor comments were right on. Said it's not about winning anymore. Was not understanding of transferring players.

 

[NoNC4Tubs]

I posted this in another thread and felt it was probably more appropriate here:

CKD's record shows that he is a winner. Seems to be of the same mindset as Bryant and Saban in that regard.

Let's give him the benefit of the doubt in what he is doing. Remember, he said that Coach Saban would be "consulted" on a daily basis as far as learning. Man, what a great resource!

Let's support the new coach as he is trying his best (great background/results on this so far) to continue the Alabama Legacy!

 

[TDBama78]

In my opinion Saban is responsible for this entire mess. What did he expect was going to happen with such an abrupt and unanticipated announcement on retirement. How many times did you hear him say that are consequences to your actions. OK, so he wanted to retire. Had he put a little thought into it and gone about the announcement differently we might not be losing half the team. Also Byrne hiring a relatively unknown from the other side of the country was no help. I still can't believe Saban voiced opposition to the person that been given the job. We all know the job should have been offered first and foremost to Lane Kiffin. Now we have to deal with this nonsensical NCAA rule regarding coaches leaving. There is nothing prohibiting the entire team from transferring.

I think if your going to blame someone a large chunk of the blame should go to jimmy Sexton, I think there has been a plan in place way before we heard about it.

 

[CoolBreeze]

Well... Eeyore, I'm just glad you weren't calling the shots 😄

Dude is a troll. You can see them a mile away. They are all a bunch of wannabes man. Already butt hurt that they will more than likely get their arses handed to them on the gridiron by us this year...again.

 

[AlistarWills]

In my opinion Saban is responsible for this entire mess. What did he expect was going to happen with such an abrupt and unanticipated announcement on retirement. How many times did you hear him say that are consequences to your actions. OK, so he wanted to retire. Had he put a little thought into it and gone about the announcement differently we might not be losing half the team. Also Byrne hiring a relatively unknown from the other side of the country was no help. I still can't believe Saban voiced opposition to the person that been given the job. We all know the job should have been offered first and foremost to Lane Kiffin. Now we have to deal with this nonsensical NCAA rule regarding coaches leaving. There is nothing prohibiting the entire team from transferring.

So explain how it should have been handled.
And I’ll echo what another poster said and add to it. Lane was never an option. He will never be employed by UA as long as Greg Byrne and/or this set of Trustees is in place.

 

[Jprid]

Preach it CA. I'm right there with you bro.

Reading comments from Booker, Roberts, Moore, and Lawson that may be exactly what happens

 

[Jack Bourbon]

Looks like DeBoer may have taken Mack before Sayin bolted, understanding the risks with Sayin. I appreciate the balls behind that move, if true.

 

[NoNC4Tubs]

Looks like DeBoer may have taken Mack before Sayin bolted, understanding the risks with Sayin. I appreciate the balls behind that move, if true.

Based on what?

Doesn't matter anyways as we need guys that want to play for Bama...

 

[Jack Bourbon]

Based on what?

Doesn't matter anyways as we need guys that want to play for Bama...

other random internet sources which i wouldnt begin to vouch for.


this in no way means deboer told sayin to go away, btw

 

[Cruiser]

So is Leland Sklar - goodness!

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