Film Study: DeBoer's offense (video)

Cruloc

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Sounds interesting. And it sounds fun. But the bottom line will still be, can we run the ball, move the chains when we need to? We haven't been able to do that consistently in a while. We'll find out if DeBoer and staff can provide that.
The DeBoer/Grubb offense will move the ball consistently....with the right QB. I'm in no way worried about this offense under this staff.

The defense, however, has me quite worried.
 

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Sounds interesting. And it sounds fun. But the bottom line will still be, can we run the ball, move the chains when we need to? We haven't been able to do that consistently in a while. We'll find out if DeBoer and staff can provide that.
I think the lack of development of the OL has greatly contributed to not being able to run the ball consistently. I am expecting a lot more development of this unit under the new staff.
 

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The DeBoer/Grubb offense will move the ball consistently....with the right QB. I'm in no way worried about this offense under this staff.

The defense, however, has me quite worried.
Agreed. If our defense isn't at least playing to Georgia's levels then we'll do fine and look god-like on offense against cupcakes and mid-tiers but will struggle against great teams like we did in 2018, 2019.
 
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Agreed. If our defense isn't at least playing to Georgia's levels then we'll do fine and look god-like on offense against cupcakes and mid-tiers but will struggle against great teams like we did in 2018, 2019.
UGA wasn't a "great" team last season and they lost Bower and several other players to the draft. Are they expected to be great this upcoming season? I realize they aren't going to be mid-tier but are they going to be like the 2021-2022 UGA teams?
 
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UGA wasn't a "great" team last season and they lost Bower and several other players to the draft. Are they expected to be great this upcoming season? I realize they aren't going to be mid-tier but are they going to be like the 2021-2022 UGA teams?
They are the hot pick to win the title again.
 

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They had zero problem moving Texas' DL around for four quarters. Granted, it was only one game and they didn't have to play an 8-9 game schedule full of SEC sized DL. But in the game they did, they had zero problems.
It was actually 2 games. They also beat Texas last year in the bowl game.
 
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A key unknown in the 2024 season is nobody knows how each QB will respond to the coaching of the new staff. It's easy to speculate which QB will do what based on what we saw this year, after having seen what Washington ran. But we haven't seen any of these QB's trying to run DeBoer's system after having been coached by the new coaches. I think it's wide open.

A guy that nobody would pick to be on a middle school PE kickball team was able to execute Homer Smith's offense like a thing of beauty. But he had Homer Smith teaching him.
I'll bet Ole Homer would love this offense!
 

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Sounds interesting. And it sounds fun. But the bottom line will still be, can we run the ball, move the chains when we need to? We haven't been able to do that consistently in a while. We'll find out if DeBoer and staff can provide that.
When Bama needs to be more physical I think 3 TEs could easily be a facet of Deboer's offense. I guess the Pros call it thirteen personal. If defenses try to pressure up the middle you have more check downs, plus extra blockers to run the ball better. I love the way the Pros use thirteen personal.
 
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I think we may be surprised how well the offense might function, even early on.

In his stints at Fresno St. and Washington he took pretty poor teams and turned them around quickly.

Granted, we are starting at a pretty high bar compared to where those schools started with CKD, so the "improvements" might not be as eye popping, but I think we're going to be pretty impressed at what he'll be able to do.

And, at the same time, I think we'll immediately start seeing, in hindsight, how vanilla and predicable our offenses became under CNS, BOB and CTR.
 

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I'm not too worried that we won't be able to move the ball. I just don't want to be a team that gives up 28 points a game. The defense in the SEC will be better than any conference he has coached.

We need to win first down on defense defending the run or pass. This will give us the chance to get off the field on 3rd down. We have not attacked enough on first down the last few years. Gave up too many first down runs of 4-6 yards.
 

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I'm not too worried that we won't be able to move the ball. I just don't want to be a team that gives up 28 points a game. The defense in the SEC will be better than any conference he has coached.

We need to win first down on defense defending the run or pass. This will give us the chance to get off the field on 3rd down. We have not attacked enough on first down the last few years. Gave up too many first down runs of 4-6 yards.
If we can't score 29 a game we don't deserve to win!

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I think we may be surprised how well the offense might function, even early on.

In his stints at Fresno St. and Washington he took pretty poor teams and turned them around quickly.

Granted, we are starting at a pretty high bar compared to where those schools started with CKD, so the "improvements" might not be as eye popping, but I think we're going to be pretty impressed at what he'll be able to do.

And, at the same time, I think we'll immediately start seeing, in hindsight, how vanilla and predicable our offenses became under CNS, BOB and CTR.
Under BOB - yes, absolutely. Pre-BOB we had some really creative stuff going on, especially with Mac and Smitty. With CTR, he was calling way, way more than we actually saw produced, it just wasn't being executed right so unless you go back and watch plays not for the outcome, but for the intent it's really hard to see.
 

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Oregon was 9th in scoring D only behind UGA from your list, less than 1 point worse.

They were 22nd in total D, again only behind UGA who was 9th, 27 yds per game worse. Not much. Just guessing but Oregon's D is probably better than UT's. It definitely is statistically; and they're definitely better than Ark.

Oregon has an SEC type defense built by Dan Lanning with many SEC level athletes. It's probably better suited to stopping DeBoer's O than UGA, Alabama (18th) or other SEC defenses because of being built, in part, to stop UW, and having experience playing them. Oregon lost 3 times in the last 2 years to UW - all high-stakes games. UW scored 37, 36, 34 and won all 3. Oregon gave up 70 pts to UW in their 2 meetings this year and 161 to their other 12 opponents. 35 ppg vs 13.4.

UW scored 56 vs med Boise St, 22 vs a good Oregon St team, 35 vs a good Utah D, 15 in an ugly win vs a bad ASU team, 59 vs Cal who held AU to 14 (a bad Cal team, more of a reflection of AU).

Mich shut them down, holding them to 13 pts and 300 yds, Bama had 20 and 270 in reg. Tbf, UW's starting RB (1200+ yds) had to play hobbled because they had nothing else. But Mich got pressure up the middle, causing disruption.
I hear what you're saying and I don't think UW made bank by playing patsies. I just think that without a lot of data from games with common opponents, the jury in my court is still out on how well CKD's offense will perform week in and week out against these defenses. Things are just done differently by almost everyone here. Not just a few.
 

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I hear what you're saying and I don't think UW made bank by playing patsies. I just think that without a lot of data from games with common opponents, the jury in my court is still out on how well CKD's offense will perform week in and week out against these defenses. Things are just done differently by almost everyone here. Not just a few.
The closest common team is Texas, which CKD and UW beat Sarks Horns in 2022 then again in 2023. I think CKD and staff will make some adjustments to playing a full SEC schedule but I don't think they will be overwhelmed. They said the same thing about Urban Meyer and his offense and also said Nick Saban wouldn't cut it in the SEC when went to LSU from Michigan St.
 

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Under BOB - yes, absolutely. Pre-BOB we had some really creative stuff going on, especially with Mac and Smitty. With CTR, he was calling way, way more than we actually saw produced, it just wasn't being executed right so unless you go back and watch plays not for the outcome, but for the intent it's really hard to see.
CTR was calling plays with one hand tied behind his back. Receivers were open and they just didn’t get the ball on time.
 

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I don't know who Brooks Austin is or what credentials he possesses, but simplicity. of analysis is not one of them. I could only watch 15 minutes and then bailed. Reminded me of a quote by Shakespeare: Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player That struts and frets his hour upon the stage And then is heard no more. It is a tale Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury Signifying nothing. Macbeth.
 

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