Bama Game Thread: A-Day Game Thread ( ESPN @ 3PM CT)

[CrimsonBloodn62]

I don’t know that we would have won a title last year with Ty as the starter, but I think we would have been much better off in 2024 if Ty had a year of starting experience under his belt.

I definitely think Jam and Justice should have been the starting RBs last year. They are just next level good.

I don't know how last season would have turned out with Ty Simpson as the starting quarterback, but we know we didn't win a NC with Jalen. I still think Saban bears most of the blame for how last season went, not Jalen Milroe. What transpired on the field when certain QB's were playing should have been handled by Saban and not the players. Our record might not have been as good, but we would probably be in a better position in the QB position this year. But here we are again in the same position as last year, this time not knowing for sure who will be QB1 because of how last year's QB situation was handled.

 

[tusks_n_raider]

I don't know how last season would have turned out with Ty Simpson as the starting quarterback, but we know we didn't win a NC with Jalen. I still think Saban bears most of the blame for how last season went, not Jalen Milroe. What transpired on the field when certain QB's were playing should have been handled by Saban and not the players. Our record might not have been as good, but we would probably be in a better position in the QB position this year. But here we are again in the same position as last year, this time not knowing for sure who will be QB1 because of how last year's QB situation was handled.

It is a similar situation but I would say the difference is that Ty looks to have improved by a pretty big margin wrt to quickly processing the play and getting the ball out.

He looks more comfortable and confident and isn't pressing or trying to force a big throw to try and match Jalen in that one area.

I didn't see any improvements in Jalen's weak areas.

So my questions would be has Ty improved enough to be a serious threat to the QB1 position and if so will he in reality be given the opportunity to move up.

He has apparently looked like the Best QB all spring and especially in the last couple of weeks.

We could start Lonergan and win the 1st two games this year so it doesn't really matter who starts the 1st couple of games.

But if the wrong choice is made we could be in trouble in weeks 3 and 4 with Wisc and UGA back to back.

The Badgers will most likely be much improved in Fickell's 2nd year and Kirby will most definitely have copied Mich's blueprint on how to attack Jalen.

I'd hate to be 2-2 right out of the gate w/ our best QB just standing on the sidelines.

 

[GrayTide]

I am not going to be critical of any of the QBs. I will say based on just what we saw at the A Day game, Milroe was disappointing. Clearly Simpson and Lonergan had better games. Time will tell how all of this plays out.

 

[CrimsonTitles]

Kirby will most definitely have copied Mich's blueprint on how to attack Jalen.

You would think..... But I'm still scratching my head a little after what he did last year lol. Texas had already provided the blueprint, and I still don't know why he didn't use it lol.

 

[colbysullivan]

You would think..... But I'm still scratching my head a little after what he did last year lol. Texas had already provided the blueprint, and I still don't know why he didn't use it lol.

Kirby bought into the media narrative. Luckily none of them seemed to understand what type of QB Milroe is.

 

[tusks_n_raider]

Kirby bought into the media narrative. Luckily none of them seemed to understand what type of QB Milroe is.

They still don't. They made the most asinine comparisons just yesterday.

He has all the talent and potential in the world and if he could unlock it he would be a force for teams to reckon with.

But last year and from what I could see yesterday he's still either going to hit a 475 Ft Tape Measure Homerun or Strikeout... and if he strikes out he's going to sling his helmet and break the bat over his knee.

Ty looks like he's finally willing to hit Doubles in the Gap to drive in runs and bat over .400

 

[colbysullivan]

They still don't. They made the most asinine comparisons just yesterday.

He has all the talent and potential in the world and if he could unlock it he would be a force for teams to reckon with.

But last year and from what I could see yesterday he's still either going to hit a 475 Ft Tape Measure Homerun or Strikeout... and if he strikes out he's going to sling his helmet and break the bat over his knee.

Ty looks like he's finally willing to hit Doubles in the Gap to drive in runs and bat over .400

It really is a perplexing situation. I will never understand the Milroe hype. I think so many people made up their minds about what type of QB he would be, but then they failed to actually pay attention to what he’s showing on the field. A ton of media folks are doubling down on Milroe, and I’m just over here like “Umm, guys…Ty Simpson is the safer and more consistent choice.” I’ll say it again, people are in love with the IDEA of Jalen Milroe, rather than the reality.

 

[81usaf92]

It really is a perplexing situation. I will never understand the Milroe hype. I think so many people made up their minds about what type of QB he would be, but then they failed to actually pay attention to what he’s showing on the field. A ton of media folks are doubling down on Milroe, and I’m just over here like “Umm, guys…Ty Simpson is the safer and more consistent choice.” I’ll say it again, people are in love with the IDEA of Jalen Milroe, rather than the reality.

I’m still fearful that we have Kelly Bryant 2.0 with Milroe. These last two weeks haven’t shown many anything new from the past 3 years from him.

I’m not saying Ty isn’t going to falter under pressure, but based on the past two weeks I think Ty is the better quarterback.

 

[Con]

I’ll level and say that in 2023 I’m not sure either was the difference between a national championship and not one. I think Ty was better but had his own flaws that prevented him from separating himself from Milroe. Personally I thought in 23 Lonergan was the safest choice out of all 4. However I think picking the wrong 2 running backs to start hampered us more than who was quarterback. So I don’t really think having Milroe starting prevented us from winning a national championship.

Flashforward to this year. I think based on what I’ve seen the past 2 Saturdays that Ty is clearly the best quarterback in the rotation. I think in no uncertain terms Milroe was told that there would be a true competition between them in the fall because of Simpson’s growth in the Spring and a lot of the body language he is demonstrating is because of it. Because last Saturday Coach Womack made Milroe look bad and he had no answers for Simpson. Idk if Simpson Will outright be able to win the job before Georgia or not, but I think we have a true Plan 1B this year.

You and I must have sat together last week and this week. When I watched the defense start the spring game I said this is totally opposite from what I witnessed the week before. Ty has looked solid the last two weeks.

 

[UAH]

It really is a perplexing situation. I will never understand the Milroe hype. I think so many people made up their minds about what type of QB he would be, but then they failed to actually pay attention to what he’s showing on the field. A ton of media folks are doubling down on Milroe, and I’m just over here like “Umm, guys…Ty Simpson is the safer and more consistent choice.” I’ll say it again, people are in love with the IDEA of Jalen Milroe, rather than the reality.

Most of the media people who are so in love with JM have never suited up and know absolutely nothing about how to throw a football. BTW seening AJ McCarron throw the football today one can see how the media people and owners can influence careers in such a negative manner.

 

[colbysullivan]

I’m still fearful that we have Kelly Bryant 2.0 with Milroe. These last two weeks haven’t shown many anything new from the past 3 years from him.

I’m not saying Ty isn’t going to falter under pressure, but based on the past two weeks I think Ty is the better quarterback.

Dang, Kelly Bryant is the perfect comparison.

 

[BamaInCummingGA]

I see a lot of complaining about the scrimmage format.
To be fair it was kind of wonky from a fan's perspective but I think (just my opinion here) that CKD really needed to see what he has and what needs to be worked on and so on. Does he keep this format?Maybe, but moving forward the rotations and such will likely be different because there will likely already be a better picture of who the starters are.

For my money give me TS at QB. He just seemed to process quicker and get the ball out quicker and would have had a couple of big runs and one touchdown if not for the touch rule.
RBs are loaded. We legitimately have four running backs that can play all season.
Wide receivers made some really good catches yesterday and muffed a few, too.
I think the defense will be legit. From what I could see yesterday the coaches rotated a lot of players and at first we didn't really blitz or anything. When we started blitzing some the D made a comeback and played really well. Like others have said, tackling needs to improve.

 

[GrayTide]

Those of us who have been around for many Autumns can understand Milroe's predicament. From the time black athletes started playing major college football and in the NFL in the late 1960s, the prevailing thought was that they were not mentally comparable to the white QBs. The media fostered the idea that the black athlete excelled in strength and speed, but as a QB could only run. All you have to do is look at the black QBs who have played for Alabama, Walter Lewis, Vince Sutton, Danny Woodson, Jalen Hurts and now Jalen Milroe. Bryce Young would be the exception. While they were certainly great athletes, they were not coached up in high school or college to develop their passing skills with the exception of Hurts. A long way of saying they have been stereo typed as run first QBs. My point is, it is not their entirely their fault they do not have the skill set white QBs do and, looking back this is not something that just happened

 

[colbysullivan]

Those of us who have been around for many Autumns can understand Milroe's predicament. From the time black athletes started playing major college football and in the NFL in the late 1960s, the prevailing thought was that they were not mentally comparable to the white QBs. The media fostered the idea that the black athlete excelled in strength and speed, but as a QB could only run. All you have to do is look at the black QBs who have played for Alabama, Walter Lewis, Vince Sutton, Danny Woodson, Jalen Hurts and now Jalen Milroe. Bryce Young would be the exception. While they were certainly great athletes, they were not coached up in high school or college to develop their passing skills with the exception of Hurts. A long way of saying they have been stereo typed as run first QBs. My point is, it is not their entirely their fault they do not have the skill set white QBs do and, looking back this is not something that just happened

Sigh

 

[irvingtontide]

Those of us who have been around for many Autumns can understand Milroe's predicament. From the time black athletes started playing major college football and in the NFL in the late 1960s, the prevailing thought was that they were not mentally comparable to the white QBs. The media fostered the idea that the black athlete excelled in strength and speed, but as a QB could only run. All you have to do is look at the black QBs who have played for Alabama, Walter Lewis, Vince Sutton, Danny Woodson, Jalen Hurts and now Jalen Milroe. Bryce Young would be the exception. While they were certainly great athletes, they were not coached up in high school or college to develop their passing skills with the exception of Hurts. A long way of saying they have been stereo typed as run first QBs. My point is, it is not their entirely their fault they do not have the skill set white QBs do and, looking back this is not something that just happened

Idk stroud,fields, penix, daniels, Bryce and multiple others over the last few years haven’t had that problem really.
I don’t think race has anything to do with it. Some people just process things differently. Which is why I will no longer listen to Kyle Hendersons page after “coach” smooks take that people don’t like milroe because of his skin color. Just a pathetic argument and a cheap way to write off people he doesn’t agree with.

 

[CrimsonBloodn62]

Those of us who have been around for many Autumns can understand Milroe's predicament. From the time black athletes started playing major college football and in the NFL in the late 1960s, the prevailing thought was that they were not mentally comparable to the white QBs. The media fostered the idea that the black athlete excelled in strength and speed, but as a QB could only run. All you have to do is look at the black QBs who have played for Alabama, Walter Lewis, Vince Sutton, Danny Woodson, Jalen Hurts and now Jalen Milroe. Bryce Young would be the exception. While they were certainly great athletes, they were not coached up in high school or college to develop their passing skills with the exception of Hurts. A long way of saying they have been stereo typed as run first QBs. My point is, it is not their entirely their fault they do not have the skill set white QBs do and, looking back this is not something that just happened

Regardless of skin color, since NIL has made its way down to the high school level, there is no excuse for any player to not be getting top-notch training to be the best player at their position. When players make a million plus and they can't separate themselves from the pack, maybe they should consider changing positions or schools no matter skin color.

 

[BamaInCummingGA]

Those of us who have been around for many Autumns can understand Milroe's predicament. From the time black athletes started playing major college football and in the NFL in the late 1960s, the prevailing thought was that they were not mentally comparable to the white QBs. The media fostered the idea that the black athlete excelled in strength and speed, but as a QB could only run. All you have to do is look at the black QBs who have played for Alabama, Walter Lewis, Vince Sutton, Danny Woodson, Jalen Hurts and now Jalen Milroe. Bryce Young would be the exception. While they were certainly great athletes, they were not coached up in high school or college to develop their passing skills with the exception of Hurts. A long way of saying they have been stereo typed as run first QBs. My point is, it is not their entirely their fault they do not have the skill set white QBs do and, looking back this is not something that just happened

I had to get up and walk away for a bit for responding to this:
I'll give you Vince Sutton and Walter Lewis but to say anyone here or most Alabama fans thought Tua or BY were not developed by previous coaches and to say most fans expected them to be mostly run is just dumb.
We talked on here all the time about how developed these two QBs in particular were when they came in and how well they were able to read defenses and process quickly both pre and post snap.
We talked about how well JH learned and how he learned to read better and make quicker decisions.
We talked about Blake Sims' ability to learn and make really good progress during the season and he ended up being a highly regarded qb at Alabama.
I don't want to say too much more because I don't want to be the one responsible for getting this thread moved to non-sports or simply locked.

 

[AlexanderFan]

I had to get up and walk away for a bit for responding to this:
I'll give you Vince Sutton and Walter Lewis but to say anyone here or most Alabama fans thought Tua or BY were not developed by previous coaches and to say most fans expected them to be mostly run is just dumb.
We talked on here all the time about how developed these two QBs in particular were when they came in and how well they were able to read defenses and process quickly both pre and post snap.
We talked about how well JH learned and how he learned to read better and make quicker decisions.
We talked about Blake Sims' ability to learn and make really good progress during the season and he ended up being a highly regarded qb at Alabama.
I don't want to say too much more because I don't want to be the one responsible for getting this thread moved to non-sports or simply locked.

Glad someone brought up Blake Sims.

I will reiterate: what Jalen Milroe can’t do is what 99% of the population can’t: process visual information and translate that information into physical action in less than three seconds. Nobody here has called him dumb, and absolutely no one here has correlated his issues with his skin color.

Thanks to whoever said the quiet part out loud, but why is it so much easier to accuse Milroe’s detractors of racism than it is to look at the evidence provided by his detractors?

 

[tusks_n_raider]

Idk stroud,fields, penix, daniels, Bryce and multiple others over the last few years haven’t had that problem really.
I don’t think race has anything to do with it. Some people just process things differently. Which is why I will no longer listen to Kyle Hendersons page after “coach” smooks take that people don’t like milroe because of his skin color. Just a pathetic argument and a cheap way to write off people he doesn’t agree with.

It really bothers me when the conversation heads into these waters.

It hasn't been a 'thing' in a LONG time at our school or anybody else's either.

The Best QB we have ever had is probably Tua.

The Best QB the NFL has ever had might turn out to be Mahomes.

It's just not a thing.

I prefer to keep things strictly to what's happening on the field.

 

[Bama Lee]

I’m still fearful that we have Kelly Bryant 2.0 with Milroe. These last two weeks haven’t shown many anything new from the past 3 years from him.

I’m not saying Ty isn’t going to falter under pressure, but based on the past two weeks I think Ty is the better quarterback.

The situation reminds me of Uiagalelei at Clemson and oregon state