Nice speech.
So tell me how that study says what you apparently think it says.
You don't have the ability to do that.
No one does.
You just misunderstood what the study conclusions are. No biggie.
But you can't admit that.
LGBTQ Issues: Will We Choose Love and Acceptance or Hate and Oppression? (Part 2)
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Nice speech.
So tell me how that study says what you apparently think it says.
You don't have the ability to do that.
No one does.
You just misunderstood what the study conclusions are. No biggie.
But you can't admit that.
glad you enjoyed the speech. Lock it away because it’s correct. Maybe years from now you will get it. I’ve seen people post studies and reports on this topic multiple times. You dismiss them all. It’s par for the course.
Here is another article explaining the study maybe that will help, but I know it won’t.
New study finds 12-fold higher risk of suicide attempt for adult transgender patients
A new study found a significantly higher risk of suicide attempts, self-harm, and PTSD for individuals who have undergone gender transition surgeries. The
www.washingtonexaminer.com
Here is another article explaining the study maybe that will help, but I know it won’t.
New study finds 12-fold higher risk of suicide attempt for adult transgender patients
A new study found a significantly higher risk of suicide attempts, self-harm, and PTSD for individuals who have undergone gender transition surgeries. The
I'm sorry to have to say this, but you do not even understand what the study says. That's because, in part, you have no education in this field - and it shows.
The study cannot identify gender affirming surgery as the cause for the higher risk because it did not even attempt to answer that question.
Don't believe me?
Read the "Limitations" section of the study.
I did. You can’t tell me there isn’t correlation. You just don’t want to believe it. I know this because you reject every attempt to show any problem with this subject. I’ve watched it over and over on this board. You have your bias so built in you won’t consider that the way things being handled is going to go bad, but you do you. I’m gonna drop the subject now because there is no talking to you about it. You wouldn’t believe it if God himself spoke to you from heaven.
I understand in general what the body of science says.
You don't understand what this study says.
Feel free to dig in your heels, though.
Credit where credit is due.
Of course there is a well known correlation.
But correlation does not equal causation.
Everyone who drank water in the 18th century is dead.
Correlation?
Dead right.
Causation?
I'll let you decide.
Go look at what the UK and the Scandinavian countries are doing with transitioning children. Are they all wrong as well? Are the European countries that were going down this road first in some cases, and now pulling out of this nonsense with kids all unable to understand a study as well?
The decision should be made by the patient, the patient’s parents, and the medical community. I could not care less what they are doing in another country.
If they were relying on this study to claim that gender affirming surgery is harmful then the answer is yes, they are wrong and don't understand what the study is and is not able to say about the issue.
Speaking of issues, you seem to be conflating them. Children receiving care which is different from adults receiving surgery - they are not the same.
Another issue you have is that this study really only shows what we already know: people who are transgender and nonbinary have a much higher rate of mental health problems like suicide. They also have a higher rate of trauma and PTSD as a result of trauma.
But some European countries are calling for and doing more research on the issue. None are actually stopping gender affirming care and saying that it is harmful, which is what you imply. (I don't really count Russia as European in any meaningful way culturally)
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Kellan Baker is spot on about the intentional misinterpretation for ideological and political reasons that is occurring.
There's even a pseudo-science industry in place to offer "scientific" evidence for anti-trans laws in court.
Pseudoscience Has Long Been Used to Oppress Transgender People
Three major waves of opposition to transgender health care in the past century have cited faulty science to justify hostility
Foundations of Contemporary Anti-LGBTQ+ Pseudoscience
Throughout the last five years, a major question has been: “How did the anti-transgender pseudoscience movement achieve success so quickly?” In responding to this question, it is important to first note that cisnormativity is nothing new. Anti-transgender sentiment has been vocalized louder and...
www.splcenter.org
Anti-Trans Myths
How a political movement manufactured scientific misinformation and legitimized hate.
www.openmindmag.org
amazing how similar this moral panic is to the moral panic around homosexuality from the 60s through the late aughtsIf they were relying on this study to claim that gender affirming surgery is harmful then the answer is yes, they are wrong and don't understand what the study is and is not able to say about the issue.
Speaking of issues, you seem to be conflating them. Children receiving care which is different from adults receiving surgery - they are not the same.
Another issue you have is that this study really only shows what we already know: people who are transgender and nonbinary have a much higher rate of mental health problems like suicide. They also have a higher rate of trauma and PTSD as a result of trauma.
But some European countries are calling for and doing more research on the issue. None are actually stopping gender affirming care and saying that it is harmful, which is what you imply. (I don't really count Russia as European in any meaningful way culturally)
.
Kellan Baker is spot on about the intentional misinterpretation for ideological and political reasons that is occurring.
There's even a pseudo-science industry in place to offer "scientific" evidence for anti-trans laws in court.
Pseudoscience Has Long Been Used to Oppress Transgender People
Three major waves of opposition to transgender health care in the past century have cited faulty science to justify hostilitywww.scientificamerican.com
Foundations of Contemporary Anti-LGBTQ+ Pseudoscience
Throughout the last five years, a major question has been: “How did the anti-transgender pseudoscience movement achieve success so quickly?” In responding to this question, it is important to first note that cisnormativity is nothing new. Anti-transgender sentiment has been vocalized louder and...www.splcenter.org
Anti-Trans Myths
How a political movement manufactured scientific misinformation and legitimized hate.
I would love to know how future historians will interpret all of this. If a 16 year-old anorexic girl insists she's fat and her parents affirm this despite the fact she only weighs 80 pounds because they want her to be a model or some such other thing, would we not see this as child abuse? Most parents would try to reach her and make her see the truth and, failing that, will try to get her some psychological care because they love her and care about her well-being. Some here will suggest that the two are not comparable, but I disagree.
Supreme Court refuses to hear case from parents who objected to school’s transgender support plans in DC suburbs
I've dealt with an anorexic daughter. You get them the help they need.
I would do the same if I had a trans child.
When I went for my last bone scan, the lady that checked me in had a picture of her son on her desk. He obviously had Down's syndrome or something similar. She opened up about him and talked about how demanding and time consuming it is having a special needs child, but the whole time she was smiling and you could see the love in her face for the child. She is a good parent that does whatever it takes to meet the child's needs.
Your responsibility as a parent is to provide your children with whatever their needs are. We didn't try anything at home with the anorexia because this is not my field of expertise. I did seek advice from one of our posters here that I respect.
As time goes by, I suspect society will come to understand that being LGBTQ is more than a choice and will, hopefully, be more receptive and respectful of these peoples needs. IMO, history will judge harshly any individual or group that tries to impose their religious mores on society in general.
So far, so good. Hopefully the "help" to which you refer is mental health and not some modern-day Mengele.
Yep, still in agreement.
Okay, getting some advice, that's a good start. Any mental health professional will tell you that anorexia is stunningly difficult to treat.
Religious mores, eh? I'm sure some people have religious issues at play here, but it seems to me that being indifferent to abnormally high suicide rates isn't particularly "moral." And to be honest, I could care less what adults do because they are capable of making their own decisions (presumably) and besides, who am I to argue with Darwinism? With kids, I'm not indifferent, though. This is particularly true considering the fact that 85% of kids with gender dysphoria desist by the time they become adults. And considering the behavior of some of these "trans-parents" it is crystal clear that the health of the child is less important than gaining a new level of social status among their fruit-loop peers. Even Bill Maher points this out in a thoroughly unlinkable video from his show, "Real Time." You can Google it, though.
Well, enough of this as I simply do not have time to go in circles today and frankly, I don't have the energy either. You and I disagree on what constitutes help, I guess. If I live to be 500 years old, I will never forget my neighbor's heaving sobs as she was told by her daughter that she will never get to see her granddaughter again because it will soon be a grandson.....and she won't get to see him, either. Why? Because my neighbor only asked why this was happening. The answers she was given involved no science, no medicinally established need, just an angry explosion of sophomoric accusations involving...you guess it...transphobia. It's funny, too; Nanci has voted Democrat her entire life and is the perfect encapsulation of "old school liberal." And just like that, she's one of the unwashed. It's amazing what political ideology has done to this country and to its families.
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LOL, it was and it's fixed. This is what I get for trying to post, eat a sandwich and dictate notes all at the same time. Work is just so much.......work. I guess that's why I get paid for doing it.
some of the typos i send via phone are absurd. a combo of aging eyes and whatever it is that apple pretends is “spell checkâ€Â
Oh, Lord...same. I don't know how my kids do it. They can type out full documents on those things and in a shockingly short period of time. Me? I can't type out a short, single-line response without dropping about 5 F-bombs in the process. This is why I rarely post on weekends. I'm away from my computer unless it's to go looting in "Borderlands 3" again.
I finally had my daughter turn off my auto-correct on my phone because I was sending some "doozies" of text messages that prompted a return text of "HUH?!?!?" or "????"
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