Ah, Florida - words fail me.

I think Florida was kinda nice a while ago, now it's just a hot mess in so many ways. I really appreciate the old Florida, like Homosassa Springs and the like, but the 9 lane roads with thousands of 3 minute stop lights, and never-ending strip malls are depressing as heck.

 
I think Florida was kinda nice a while ago, now it's just a hot mess in so many ways. I really appreciate the old Florida, like Homosassa Springs and the like, but the 9 lane roads with thousands of 3 minute stop lights, and never-ending strip malls are depressing as heck.

I'm old enough to remember the old Florida. Today's is not an improvement...
 
Central Florida feels largely the same??
I remember Orlando before Disney World. We lived in Montgomery, my grandparents lived in Miami and my father had a small plane. We'd fly down to visit and on the way, we'd stop to refuel in Orlando. So all I saw of that town was this tiny little landing strip with a windsock. A little way off was a small building where I could get a coke. I wish I remembered the price of those cokes! I was little and thought the place was called Orlando because people landed there. It didn't occur to me that we also took off from there. Of course, I also remember Miami Beach when it wasn't hard to drive around Miami or Miami Beach. I can't stand driving there now.
 
I remember Orlando before Disney World. We lived in Montgomery, my grandparents lived in Miami and my father had a small plane. We'd fly down to visit and on the way, we'd stop to refuel in Orlando. So all I saw of that town was this tiny little landing strip with a windsock. A little way off was a small building where I could get a coke. I wish I remembered the price of those cokes! I was little and thought the place was called Orlando because people landed there. It didn't occur to me that we also took off from there. Of course, I also remember Miami Beach when it wasn't hard to drive around Miami or Miami Beach. I can't stand driving there now.
I remember it too. It was such a forlorn little place. We went to DW the second year. There were two hotels, with tram access to the park. The hotel was greatly discounted and almost empty. I told my wife that Disney had finally made a mistake "This place is never going to make it." :)
 
I remember it too. It was such a forlorn little place. We went to DW the second year. There were two hotels, with tram access to the park. The hotel was greatly discounted and almost empty. I told my wife that Disney had finally made a mistake "This place is never going to make it." :)
Hey, I saw James Cameron's "Titanic" when it first came out and thought, "Wow, that's gonna bomb."
 
Still so many great parts of FL.

I miss the groves, but having spent the 70-90's growing up in Central FL, it feels largely the same. Spent most of last week there, still feels like home to me.
I love where I live in FL. I’m south of Orlando in a more rural area. I can be on the coast or in Orlando pretty easily and still enjoy the rural agricultural lifestyle. I doubt I ever leave the state. It’s awesome.
 

Florida sticks by social studies standard teaching ‘benefit’ of slavery

Florida’s new teaching standards include the same language that scored national blowback last year for requiring middle school students to learn “how slaves developed skills which, in some instances, could be applied for their personal benefit.”

Critics, including Rep. Byron Donalds (R-Fla.), urged the state to reconsider that language. And others criticized the state’s phrasing on crucial lessons surrounding the 1920 Ocoee massacre and the 1921 Tulsa Race Massacre, which are labeled as violence perpetrated “against and by” African Americans.

But these lessons went unchanged, triggering further objection Wednesday from the Florida Education Association teachers union and free speech advocacy group PEN America, among others.
“It still refers to slavery as having a potential benefit,” Andrew Spar, president of the FEA, said during the state board meeting in Miami. “And that is a concern, as well as making sure that our students have a complete and honest history around both the African American experience and all experiences in our country.”
 

Florida sticks by social studies standard teaching ‘benefit’ of slavery

Florida’s new teaching standards include the same language that scored national blowback last year for requiring middle school students to learn “how slaves developed skills which, in some instances, could be applied for their personal benefit.”

Critics, including Rep. Byron Donalds (R-Fla.), urged the state to reconsider that language. And others criticized the state’s phrasing on crucial lessons surrounding the 1920 Ocoee massacre and the 1921 Tulsa Race Massacre, which are labeled as violence perpetrated “against and by” African Americans.

But these lessons went unchanged, triggering further objection Wednesday from the Florida Education Association teachers union and free speech advocacy group PEN America, among others.
“It still refers to slavery as having a potential benefit,” Andrew Spar, president of the FEA, said during the state board meeting in Miami. “And that is a concern, as well as making sure that our students have a complete and honest history around both the African American experience and all experiences in our country.”

Republicans back this, and that (and they) disgusts me.
 
So the Florida government is banned from using the term climate change. Schoolteachers can’t admit they are gay for fear of being fired with their don’t say gay policy, and Heaven help librarians and doctors.
And now they want to teach about the benefits of slavery.
It’s almost like as the climate collapses we are reverting to a Dark Age mentality. Facts are denied and ignorance glorified. 😳
 
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Florida sticks by social studies standard teaching ‘benefit’ of slavery

Florida’s new teaching standards include the same language that scored national blowback last year for requiring middle school students to learn “how slaves developed skills which, in some instances, could be applied for their personal benefit.”

Critics, including Rep. Byron Donalds (R-Fla.), urged the state to reconsider that language. And others criticized the state’s phrasing on crucial lessons surrounding the 1920 Ocoee massacre and the 1921 Tulsa Race Massacre, which are labeled as violence perpetrated “against and by” African Americans.

But these lessons went unchanged, triggering further objection Wednesday from the Florida Education Association teachers union and free speech advocacy group PEN America, among others.
“It still refers to slavery as having a potential benefit,” Andrew Spar, president of the FEA, said during the state board meeting in Miami. “And that is a concern, as well as making sure that our students have a complete and honest history around both the African American experience and all experiences in our country.”
Florida is Louisiana, but with better beaches.
 
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