Israel launches preemptive attacks against Iran (US bombs Iran)...

So independent intelligence sources says Iran currently is 3 years away at best if they resume their nuclear development from developing a usable weapon…. That doesn’t even take in account for the means of transporting or launching one.

But this is the guy we are listening to???

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Netanyahu has constantly said things like “Iran is weeks away”, “months away”, or are close, but every non Israeli source consistently says otherwise. To include 2 Trump administrations. We are being led into a war by an unpopular Jewish war mongerer.
Agreed. This is Iraq's WMDs all over again. God help us if he goes full "George W. Trump." His base did not vote for this and everyone knows it. The political fallout from this will be enormous.
 
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President Trump urges all of Tehran to evacuate "immediately" in new social media post as he says Iran can’t have a nuclear weapon.



B2’s would have to be refueled to make it to Iran and back From Diego Garcia, B52s would not.
Great place, BTW , Diego Garcia…not! A rock “floating” in the IO!
 
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So independent intelligence sources says Iran currently is 3 years away at best if they resume their nuclear development from developing a usable weapon…. That doesn’t even take in account for the means of transporting or launching one.

But this is the guy we are listening to???

2013


Netanyahu has constantly said things like “Iran is weeks away”, “months away”, or are close, but every non Israeli source consistently says otherwise. To include 2 Trump administrations. We are being led into a war by an unpopular Jewish war mongerer.
It occurred to me that the CIA muct have it's own asessment of where Iran is on development of any type of bomb. If there is an adult travelling with Trump I would also expect that the topic would be discussed with Saudi Arabia and other Arab States during Trump's recent visit. My conclusion from this is that there is no reason for the US to react only on Israel's pronouncements.

If it wasn't such a very serious matter it would be almost comical to see how Trump bridges his high regard for Netanyahu and his infatuation with Putin over one's bitter enemy and the other's close ally and supporter.
 
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Close to 20 U.S. Air Force KC-135 and KC-46 Aerial-Refueling Tankers lifted-off this morning from airbases across Europe, heading in the direction of the Middle East, with most of the tankers appearing to be towing fighter aircraft, likely including F-15s, F-16s, F-22s, and F-35s, all moving now towards U.S. Central Command (CENTCOM).

 
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Close to 20 U.S. Air Force KC-135 and KC-46 Aerial-Refueling Tankers lifted-off this morning from airbases across Europe, heading in the direction of the Middle East, with most of the tankers appearing to be towing fighter aircraft, likely including F-15s, F-16s, F-22s, and F-35s, all moving now towards U.S. Central Command (CENTCOM).

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JEFFREY SACHS: "Netanyahu, I regard as one of the most delusional and dangerous people on the planet."

Sachs states that this conflict isn’t about U.S. security, but that it’s Netanyahu’s war. He says we’ve already fought 6 on Israel’s behalf.

Are we about to fight a 7th?

 
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Dogs of war and men of hate
With no cause, we don’t discriminate
Discovery is to be disowned
Our currency is flesh and bone
Hell opened up and put on sale
Gather round and haggle

For hard cash, we will lie and deceive
Even our Masters don’t know the webs we weave


One world, it’s a battleground
One world, and we will smash it down
One world… One world


Invisible transfers and long distance calls
Hollow laughter in marble halls

Steps have been taken, a silent uproar
Has unleashed the dogs of war

You can’t stop what has begun
Signed, sealed,
they deliver oblivion
We all have our dark side to say the least
And dealing in death is the nature of the beast


One world, it’s a battleground
One world, and they're gonna smash it down
One world… One world



One world… One world



The dogs of war don’t negotiate
The dogs of war won’t capitulate
They will take and you will give
And you must die so that they may live
You can knock at any door
But wherever you go, you know they’ve been there before
Well winners can lose and things can get strained
But whatever you change, you know the dogs remain
 

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Two more posts moments ago by U.S. President Trump, stating, “We know exactly where the so-called “Supreme Leader” is hiding. He is an easy target, but is safe there - We are not going to take him out (kill!), at least not for now.” Followed by a post which only says, “UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER.”

 
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Two more posts moments ago by U.S. President Trump, stating, “We know exactly where the so-called “Supreme Leader” is hiding. He is an easy target, but is safe there - We are not going to take him out (kill!), at least not for now.” Followed by a post which only says, “UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER.”


So much for not being involved or not getting Americans in a senseless conflict in the Middle East.
 
From what I can understand there is one nuclear facility 90 feet underground and surrounded by a concrete bunker that Israel can’t eliminate. I won’t be shocked if one US sortie with a couple of B2’s take it out in the end. Not saying that’s what we should do just that I think it’s a real possibility if Iran doesn’t give it up willingly.
This morning, on CNN, a supposed expert said the Fordow facility is 295' underground, outside the penetration range of the MOP...
 
I guess Turkey isn’t on Trump’s side on this conflict

Turkish president says “Netanyahu is the biggest threat to the Middle East”
In the tweet I posted above, Jeffrey Sachs is saying the same thing. And look, I am completely on board with keeping nukes out of the hands of Iranians, but to my knowledge, there is no credible intel to suggest they are as close to having them as the Western press wants us to believe.

We won't know what Trump is going to do until he actually does it, but if he's not careful, he could conceivably destroy his own movement. The establishment likes to present the Trumpers as cult followers who never question their leader, but today has pretty much disproven this assertion as anyone on X can tell you. There is a LOT of inter-party fighting going on about this. The kindling is set; all it needs is a spark.
 
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This morning, on CNN, a supposed expert said the Fordow facility is 295' underground, outside the penetration range of the MOP...
I have been led to believe that Israel has complete air superiorty over Iran. If that is the case and the facility isn't accessable by use of bunker busters and Israel feels so strongly about the Iranian nuclear threat then why not land the number of special forces needed at the site, with close air support to take out the facility. Israel started the conflict they should finish it alone.
 
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