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Israel launches preemptive attacks against Iran (US bombs Iran)...

CrimsonJazz said:
In the tweet I posted above, Jeffrey Sachs is saying the same thing. And look, I am completely on board with keeping nukes out of the hands of Iranians, but to my knowledge, there is no credible intel to suggest they are as close to having them as the Western press wants us to believe.

We won't know what Trump is going to do until he actually does it, but if he's not careful, he could conceivably destroy his own movement. The establishment likes to present the Trumpers as cult followers who never question their leader, but today has pretty much disproven this assertion as anyone on X can tell you. There is a LOT of inter-party fighting going on about this. The kindling is set; all it needs is a spark.
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I seriously think it would be a mistake to get suckered into this. I don’t think we will have near the amount of international support to deal with the fallout. Unless Iran was truly close to making a nuclear weapon and committed to attacking US interests then getting involved makes no sense on our part.

crimsonaudio said:
Wow!

BREAKING: Iranian Crown Prince @PahlaviReza just gave a speech to the nation: “All it takes now is a nation-wide uprising to put this nightmare to and end (…) may I be with you soon” ENGLISH SUBTITLES

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1935042000598053338
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Unless there is a US army marching him into Tehran he needs to go back to enjoying his exile in luxury. His support in Iran is not as strong as both Israel and he would like to think.
 
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UAH said:
I have been led to believe that Israel has complete air superiorty over Iran. If that is the case and the facility isn't accessable by use of bunker busters and Israel feels so strongly about the Iranian nuclear threat then why not land the number of special forces needed at the site, with close air support to take out the facility. Israel started the conflict they should finish it alone.
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That was also touched on by the same guy. He said it would be quite an undertaking. Apparently, there's a pretty good-sized military installation there at Fordow...
 
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dayhiker said:
My next door neighbor used to own a bunch of Domino's in the DC area and also did catering for various government events. I'm going to have to quiz him about this.
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The Domino’s in DC in the late eighties/early nineties were some of the highest volume locations in the nation, the owner , Frank Meeks had 60 locations in DC . The man was a legend within Domino’s. the stores ran like precision clocks And He had an angle with every thing he did. during the lead up to Desert Storm , he noticed locations around the White House, in Virginia near the Pentagon , even near the capitol got huge orders the nights leading up to and culminated the night of the invasion. After that, DC reporters kept tabs on Domino’s and before every major event Domino’s would get huge orders . They could even tell how big the event would be by the size of the orders, which equated to how many people were involved in decisions/ planning , etc. and the largest orders were always the night before the event happened. that’s how the pizza report was born.
 
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https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1935033123856679199

The Iranian Regime’s official account has released a video of a man stroking a nuclear bomb.

Grok:
The video from @iraninarabic_ir appears to be a real broadcast from Al-Alam, an Iranian state-owned channel, but its content should be viewed critically due to potential bias. It shows someone handling an object with a nuclear symbol and an Iranian flag, with the word "Maybe," suggesting speculation about Iran's nuclear program. Iran claims its nuclear activities are peaceful, backed by NPT membership and some IAEA inspections. However, concerns persist over undeclared sites, 60% uranium enrichment, and ballistic missiles, as noted by the IAEA and U.S. intelligence. The video's intent is unclear, but it aligns with state narratives.
 
81usaf92 said:
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1933844614105997336

So either Trump has the most idiotic and deceitful people in charge or both him and Bibi are manufacturing a war to gain political points. I suppose both could be true at the same time but if Tulsi’s testimony is to be taken at face value… then there is no way Iran was as close to obtaining a nuclear weapon as both Trump and BiBi are saying. But Trump’s initial reactions seems that he and his administration weren’t in favor of the strikes because of the intelligence that they had. IDK but this seems like another Iraq 2003 brewing.


BBC reports

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The Israeli military said it had accumulated intelligence showing that "concrete progress" had been made "in the Iranian regime's efforts to produce weapons components adapted for a nuclear bomb", including a uranium metal core and a neutron source initiator for triggering the nuclear explosion.
Kelsey Davenport, director for non-proliferation policy at the US-based Arms Control Association, said Israel's prime minister "did not present any clear or compelling evidence that Iran was on the brink of weaponizing".
"Iran has been at a near-zero breakout for months," she told the BBC, referring to the time it would take Iran to acquire enough fissile material for one bomb if it chose to do so.
"Similarly, the assessment that Iran could develop a crude nuclear weapon within a few months is not new."
She said some of Iran's nuclear activities would be applicable to developing a bomb, but US intelligence agencies had assessed that Iran was not engaged in key weaponization work.
This March, Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard told Congress that Iran's stockpile of enriched uranium was "at its highest levels" and "unprecedented for a state without nuclear weapons".
But she also said the US intelligence community "continues to assess that Iran is not building a nuclear weapon and Supreme Leader [Ayatollah Ali] Khamenei has not authorised the nuclear weapons programme that he suspended in 2003".
"If Netanyahu was purely motivated by Iran's proliferation risk, Israel would likely have shared that intelligence with the United States and the initial attack would likely have targeted all of Iran's key nuclear facilities," Ms Davenport added.
Last week, the IAEA said in its latest quarterly report that Iran had amassed enough uranium enriched up to 60% purity - a short, technical step away from weapons grade, or 90% - to potentially make nine nuclear bombs. That was "a matter of serious concern", given the proliferation risks, it added.”
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I'm not saying the Ayatollah is in bad shape at 86, but Jill Biden is now running his cabinet meetings.
 
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According to a U.S. official who spoke with the Wall Street Journal, Israel is beginning to run low on “Arrow-2/3” Missile Interceptors, which have been used to shoot down hundreds of ballistic missiles fired by Iran and the Iranian-backed Houthis in Yemen since Friday, with the U.S. also expended interceptors at an alarming rate, using several of the U.S. Army’s Terminal High Altitude Area Defense (THAAD) Batteries deployed in Israel as well as Arleigh Burke-Class Guided Missile Destroyers with the U.S. Navy in the Eastern Mediterranean. Officials and analysts still believe that Iran has more missiles than both Israel and the U.S. have interceptors, which is why the Israeli Air Force has been heavily targeting surface-to-surface missile launchers and other launch infrastructure so much in Iran.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1935222694372315293
 
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TIDE-HSV said:
This morning, on CNN, a supposed expert said the Fordow facility is 295' underground, outside the penetration range of the MOP...
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Saw someone else say something similar. Solution was to drop 4-5 MOP’s in rapid succession. It would solve that problem but open another set.
 
One ruefully amusing fact about the possibility of a regime change war: the people who wanted Trump dead a year ago are now backing him (albeit quietly.) Many of he people who voted for him are getting extremely angry. If I didn't know any better, I'd think Trump's "no more wars" rhetoric was just that: rhetoric. (Or, you know, straight up BS.)
 
TIDE-HSV said:
With all the trouble Somalia and Libya have caused, can you imagine Iran as a failed state?
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Iran as a failed state would be 1000x worse than either. If the military doesn’t take over (which is also a bad thing) it could devolve into clan and faction violence over control of major cities and sites of power. I just have my doubts a pro Israeli backed individual is going to be able to step in and be able to transform Iran into a democratic society like Netanyahu thinks…. Especially a son of the former shah that they deposed.

Iran wants a more liberal society but hasn’t been able to agree what that looks like other than it being a non cleric state. Making that decision for them with a military campaign pretty much makes it a worse version of Libya
 
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CrimsonJazz said:
One ruefully amusing fact about the possibility of a regime change war: the people who wanted Trump dead a year ago are now backing him (albeit quietly.) Many of he people who voted for him are getting extremely angry. If I didn't know any better, I'd think Trump's "no more wars" rhetoric was just that: rhetoric. (Or, you know, straight up BS.)
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Trump is on the verge of killing his own movement. MAGA is very divided on it.
 
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CrimsonJazz said:
One ruefully amusing fact about the possibility of a regime change war: the people who wanted Trump dead a year ago are now backing him (albeit quietly.) Many of he people who voted for him are getting extremely angry. If I didn't know any better, I'd think Trump's "no more wars" rhetoric was just that: rhetoric. (Or, you know, straight up BS.)
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You mean like "Read my lips! No new taxes!"? :)
 
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TIDE-HSV said:
You mean like "Read my lips! No new taxes!"? :)
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Darn tootin'! It still amazes me to this day that a man with a history like Bush's is still remembered for this line, but this is what happens when you are president of a nation that doesn't forget. At least it didn't used to forget; nowadays I see people on the daily who have the attention span of a heroin-addicted goldfish.
 
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