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Crime Blotter: Suspect in deaths of Idaho students arrested in Pennsylvania (Update: Accepted a Plea Bargain)

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This is a bit surprising to many.......

Bryan Kohberger accepts plea deal in Idaho college murders case

(NewsNation) — NewsNation has learned a plea deal has been offered to Bryan Kohberger, the man charged with killing four University of Idaho students in November 2022, and he has accepted.

Sources confirm the prosecution has proposed dropping the death penalty in exchange for Kohberger pleading guilty to committing the murders and to a burglary charge.

NewsNation has learned Kohberger must also agree to spend the rest of his life in prison without the possibility of parole and must waive his right to appeal.

A court hearing for a change of plea will be Wednesday.
 
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Bazza said:
This is a bit surprising to many.......

Bryan Kohberger accepts plea deal in Idaho college murders case

(NewsNation) — NewsNation has learned a plea deal has been offered to Bryan Kohberger, the man charged with killing four University of Idaho students in November 2022, and he has accepted.

Sources confirm the prosecution has proposed dropping the death penalty in exchange for Kohberger pleading guilty to committing the murders and to a burglary charge.

NewsNation has learned Kohberger must also agree to spend the rest of his life in prison without the possibility of parole and must waive his right to appeal.

A court hearing for a change of plea will be Wednesday.
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Does not mean necessarily mean he did it.
A plea bargain is offered to something lesser and the accused accepts to avoid the more serious penalty (although it seems likely to me he did it).
A guy I worked with (in his late 30s) struck up a relationship with a 16 year old girl (he later said she had said she was 21). He was charged with 52-odd counts of indecent relations with a minor. Offered a plea bargain that meant 10 years in prison, he declined. He went to trial, was convicted, and sentenced to 52 years. Ouch. Should have accepted the plea deal.
 
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TIDE-HSV said:
I think we can agree he was no Ted Bundy...
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Bundy would have been one hell of a good lawyer. He was frighteningly bright and had an undeniable charm that would have served him well in a courtroom. Too bad he was a sick, evil freak.
 
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I watched a Dateline NBC episode on this and it was fascinating (not in a good, "happy" way). I have a daughter going off to college in the fall and stuff like this terrifies me. My wife and I like watching the Dateline NBC episodes and one thing we have noticed when it involves college kids and campuses is how oblivious a lot of these kids are to obviously dangerous situations.

We recently watched one (and too many like this one) where a serial rapist was basically going to spring break areas and college towns and sexually assaulting college girls. In the interviews with the victims, one of the common things that simply made my wife and I cringe was how many times the victims had these similarities in their stories:

1. Just met the guy

2. Didn't know his name

3. Went back to his apartment (just the two) or got in his car for a ride, again just those two (with #1 & #2 being applicable)

The answer is I'm probably out of touch, but my god who does this? We immediately brought our daughter into the room and reinforced what we've ALWAYS taught her about the above things.
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My wife and I watched a documentary on this, and this dude was definitely sick in the head. But again, I go back to "kids these days" and how different they act from when I grew up. Even the wildest girls I went to high school and college with would NEVER do what a lot of these girls do who get themselves in these dangerous situations.

1. Just met the guy

2. Didn't know his name

3. Went back to his apartment (just the two) or got in his car for a ride, again just those two (with #1 & #2 being applicable)
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My daughter has friends who do this ^^^^! WHY?!?!?! WHYYYYYYYY?!?!?! We've taught my daughter NEVER, EVER, EVER uner ANY circumstance do what a lot of girls these days apparently do. I guess I'm just out of touch.
 
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CrimsonJazz said:
Bundy would have been one hell of a good lawyer. He was frighteningly bright and had an undeniable charm that would have served him well in a courtroom. Too bad he was a sick, evil freak.
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He actually trained himself into being a pretty good one. Of course, that last spree down in FL, when he invaded a sorority house made it certain he would be caught and I think that's what he really wanted. He told the arresting officers that he wished they had just killed him. But what I was remembering was his trial down there when he started pointing his finger at the judge. The judge, an older guy, said "Young man, do not point your finger at me!" He did it again and the judge repeated it louder. Bundy finally realized he was likely to finish the trial in shackles and desisted... :)
 
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Bamabuzzard said:
My wife and I watched a documentary on this, and this dude was definitely sick in the head. But again, I go back to "kids these days" and how different they act from when I grew up. Even the wildest girls I went to high school and college with would NEVER do what a lot of these girls do who get themselves in these dangerous situations.



My daughter has friends who do this ^^^^! WHY?!?!?! WHYYYYYYYY?!?!?! We've taught my daughter NEVER, EVER, EVER uner ANY circumstance do what a lot of girls these days apparently do. I guess I'm just out of touch.
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Yep. We taught our daughter, "Never drink with someone you don't trust with your life."
 
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TIDE-HSV said:
Asking for a friend? :)
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Lol kind of.

There is a ongoing murder case that my family is heavily invested in (on the victim side). And there apparently has been an appeal filed and the case is moving to the appeals court of Maryland. There hasn't been a trial yet so just curious if anyone would have any idea what appeal could have been filed. I did a bit of googling but that only gets you so far. Best guess is either he confessed to someone or he was found incompetent to stand trial and the appeal is related to one of those? (we know a competency test was ordered)
 
RollTide_HTTR said:
Lol kind of.

There is a ongoing murder case that my family is heavily invested in (on the victim side). And there apparently has been an appeal filed and the case is moving to the appeals court of Maryland. There hasn't been a trial yet so just curious if anyone would have any idea what appeal could have been filed. I did a bit of googling but that only gets you so far. Best guess is either he confessed to someone or he was found incompetent to stand trial and the appeal is related to one of those? (we know a competency test was ordered)
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Some people have tried to replace their doctor with Google and gotten terrible results. I would imagine trying to replace one's lawyer with Google would have similar results. :D
 
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RollTide_HTTR said:
Lol kind of.

There is a ongoing murder case that my family is heavily invested in (on the victim side). And there apparently has been an appeal filed and the case is moving to the appeals court of Maryland. There hasn't been a trial yet so just curious if anyone would have any idea what appeal could have been filed. I did a bit of googling but that only gets you so far. Best guess is either he confessed to someone or he was found incompetent to stand trial and the appeal is related to one of those? (we know a competency test was ordered)
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How can there be an appeal with no trial? Is it an appeal as to his competence to stand trial? The appeal should be a matter of record with the clerk of that court
 
TIDE-HSV said:
How can there be an appeal with no trial? Is it an appeal as to his competence to stand trial? The appeal should be a matter of record with the clerk of that court
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That's what we are trying to find out.

We got a text that the case was closed because we follow the prisoner. Looked it up through Maryland case search and it looks like there was some sort of appeal that is going to ACM which apparently is the Appeals Court of Maryland. There is also some sort of filing to restrict some of the information I believe. So far all we were told is that an appeal has been filed when we contacted the detective.

Again, google told me that there are rare situations where a defendant can appeal before a trial. 2 examples I found were if he is found incompetent, and we know they did order a competency test(he's absolutely nuts at this point based on what we know) OR if he maybe confessed or if there is some sort of issue with a piece of evidence. But again that is just through googling so not ultrareliable. We also have not seen any record or been told by anyone that he was found incompetent to stand trial but it would be seriously unsurprising if he has been or will be.

CrimsonJazz said:
Some people have tried to replace their doctor with Google and gotten terrible results. I would imagine trying to replace one's lawyer with Google would have similar results. :D
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100000% agreed lol. Its a bigger case and we have a lawyer but for a different issue than the criminal aspect. It's a long long long tragic story.
 
RollTide_HTTR said:
That's what we are trying to find out.

We got a text that the case was closed because we follow the prisoner. Looked it up through Maryland case search and it looks like there was some sort of appeal that is going to ACM which apparently is the Appeals Court of Maryland. There is also some sort of filing to restrict some of the information I believe. So far all we were told is that an appeal has been filed when we contacted the detective.

Again, google told me that there are rare situations where a defendant can appeal before a trial. 2 examples I found were if he is found incompetent, and we know they did order a competency test(he's absolutely nuts at this point based on what we know) OR if he maybe confessed or if there is some sort of issue with a piece of evidence. But again that is just through googling so not ultrareliable. We also have not seen any record or been told by anyone that he was found incompetent to stand trial but it would be seriously unsurprising if he has been or will be.


100000% agreed lol. Its a bigger case and we have a lawyer but for a different issue than the criminal aspect. It's a long long long tragic story.
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Just off the top of my head, it appears he was found incompetent and, maybe, in MD, the state can appeal that finding. It also sounds like the judge sealed the records...
 
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