Trump Policies, Part the VIII
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Exclusive | Trump to sign executive order ending cashless bail, threatens to revoke federal funding in lax jurisdictions: ‘Obvious threat to public safety’
A White House memo on the executive action states: “Cashless bail policies allow dangerous individuals to immediately return to the streets and further endanger law-abiding, hard-working Amer…
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This is one the major issues with crime in Memphis - there are quite a few news stories of people literally shooting someone and being ROR within days (even hours) because they claimed they couldn't afford any bail.Exclusive | Trump to sign executive order ending cashless bail, threatens to revoke federal funding in lax jurisdictions: ‘Obvious threat to public safety’
A White House memo on the executive action states: “Cashless bail policies allow dangerous individuals to immediately return to the streets and further endanger law-abiding, hard-working Amer…
Don't wanna sit behind bars? Stop breaking the law.
Exactly. Am I really expected to care about equity among criminals? Seriously? Yeah, some can afford bail; others cannot. This is a first-world problem that I, for one, do not care in the least about. Now I'm not an unreasonable man. For non-violent crimes, I can see allowing cashless bail depending on one's record, but the violent ones need to be kept the hell out of public.
It is well established in law that incarcerating someone while they await trial does not jeopardize the innocent until proven guilty protection in the Constitution. If that were the case then no one would ever have to stay in jail awaiting trial.
I will agree it is somewhat problematic that "rich" people can post bail while poor people often have to stay in jail, the problem is that people need to "put some skin in the game" so that they will show up for trial. Without that they'll just skip trial and we'll have to waste precious resources trying to track them down. Not to mention the safety factor for the general public when a violent offender is free to roam the streets.
My comment was directed at crimsonaudio's statement, "Don't wanna sit behind bars? Stop breaking the law". It clearly presupposes that if you're in jail , you must have committed a crime. The issue is particularly relevant given ICE's penchant for throwing people in jail on a whim.
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Here we go...
www.whitehouse.gov
Do you suppose that molesting the flag would be considered desecration?
Prosecuting Burning of The American Flag
By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, it is hereby ordered: Section 1. Purpose.
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Do you suppose that molesting the flag would be considered desecration?
Common sense needs to apply... You murder or beat some one near to death, let the bars close with a clang. But nonviolent offenders can be harmed by job loss and other factors, no need to compound the social issues.
I love that Loki quote...
so cankles caligula now thinks he can be judge, jury, and executionerHere we go...
Prosecuting Burning of The American Flag
By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, it is hereby ordered: Section 1. Purpose.
Do you suppose that molesting the flag would be considered desecration?
Exactly and I addressed that in my reply to CA. I've been shouting from the rooftops that we need to reform our criminal justice system for a long time now. If I'm not mistaken, we still lead the world in the number of incarcerated citizens (per capita.) That is a problem. I have no problem at all with extending a little more grace to non-violent offenders, but the rapists, killers, etc? Nope, into the hole you go.
My favorite Loki quote is his soliloquy from the first Avengers film, when he holds a mirror up to the people and showed them what they are (metaphorically speaking) until one old man rose up from his kneeling position. That scene still sends chills down my spine because Loki was absolutely right about most humans.
*eyeroll*
I guess anyone held on bail is being considered guilty pre-trial?
Good grief...
The reality is that in places like Memphis this hasn't played out as you envision - they literally have people being arrested multiple times in a single day. In some cases, people are back on the street in less than an hour after being arrested for a violent crime.
No one cares if the person arrested for parking tickets gets released, but there are some absolute idiots in the criminal justice system in some cities (such as Memphis) that abuse the removal of cash bail.
All this hand-wringing is silly when you're discussing some of the most violent and dangerous cities in the country. Unless / until you live in one and get to see your own friends and family victimized by a system than worries more about the criminal than the victim, pie-in-the-sky thinking seems logical. It literally drove us out of the city - at great financial (both personal and business) cost, mind you - as there's no end in sight.
All men accused of criminal mischief should be allowed to roam freely amongst the masses while they await their trial due to good will and civic camaraderie...
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