BREAKING Conservative Charlie Kirk Shot During Debate In Utah
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yeah, unfortunately if they haven't caught him in the first 24-48 hours, he could get away clean. This person might even be brazen enough to do it again.
I'm skeptical. They've already interviewed a few persons of interest to be released. This may or may not be the person. If it is, I hope he is caught and brought to justice.
When it comes to the value of the life it is immeasurably different, but the actual mechanics are identical.
He's going to get caught because someone who knows him is going to rat him out. The picture is not great but if this was someone that I was pretty familiar with then I would know it was him. Plus, he wore a pretty distinct looking logo on the shirt. At first, I doubted they would catch the United Health CEO murderer but they zeroed in on Mangioni really fast. I think this will be the same.
See, this is why you GROW A BEARD first and then SHAVE IT OFF And BLEACH YOUR HAIR BLONDE afterwards.
It never made any sense to me in "The Fugitive" that Harrison Ford, who could have hidden out far better with bleached blonde hair, went with "just a little darker". That and STEALING AN AMBULANCE, which wouldn't be all that difficult to find with a helicopter.
I liked that movie, but it was still illogical on numerous levels, starting with suspecting a surgeon of murder who could have killed Sela Ward far more difficult to tell it was murder than bludgeoning her.
And now, back to the raw part of this thread.
My daughter saw Charlie Kirk this past Spring at USF. Like me, Lily was only aware of him peripherally, as she doesn't have time for party politics. But, it was an event, so she wanted to check it out, at least for a bit. Afterwards, I asked Lily what she thought. She said she agreed with some of the things Charlie said, partially agreed on some others, and disagreed on some issues. She was mainly entertained by the interaction during the debates. She remarked how calm and patient Charlie was with all the people who disagreed with him. Far too many of the opposition screamed that he was a racist promoting hate, but they could not back up any of their claims. "Being loud with wild accusations doesn't make you right or even competent. It makes you look foolish to those who really understand an issue." Lily didn't stay for the entire event; she had to go study. But, she said she saw all she needed to see.
Crazy doesn’t make sense. A deranged person doesn’t think like you.
My first cousin's son was at the event. He will forever be traumatized by what he saw and experienced. As you could imagine, it was complete pandemonium after the shot rang out.
This is a terrible thing. Two children will have to grow up without a father, a family lost a son, a wife lost her husband. It’s nothing to ever be promoted, celebrated or condoned, and God help us if we ever get to that point as individuals.
Here’s where I take issue though: the painting of Kirk as a peaceful dove who simply promoted honest discourse. That’s just simply not the case in my view. At best, he was a guy who made a living profiteering off trolling people from the other side of the political aisle. And that’s at best. At worst (which I tend to gravitate more towards), he was a racist, misogynistic, homophobic, far-right Trumper who actively inserted himself into the political sphere to influence people to vote in favor of a party that in recent years has taken some objectively cruel and inhuman positions (in my view). It bothers me that he will probably be celebrated as some sort of Christian martyr, when, in my view, his positions (and the positions of the MAGA crowd in general) are completely antithetical to the actual teachings of Christ. In my view and my understanding of Christianity, it is our call to love - period. Hard stop. We shouldn’t be concerned with someone else’s gender, or immigration status, etc.. It is not our duty to convict non-believers; it is our duty to simply love them.
I’m saddened by this terrible event, but I’m also saddened by how much the Republican Party and the MAGA / Christian Nationalist movement has lost its way, in my view. None of this in any way, shape or form justifies murder.
I’m also concerned that this event and the normalization of it will be a catalyst for worse things to come from both sides. I hope I’m wrong.
Here’s where I take issue though: the painting of Kirk as a peaceful dove who simply promoted honest discourse. That’s just simply not the case in my view. At best, he was a guy who made a living profiteering off trolling people from the other side of the political aisle. And that’s at best. At worst (which I tend to gravitate more towards), he was a racist, misogynistic, homophobic, far-right Trumper who actively inserted himself into the political sphere to influence people to vote in favor of a party that in recent years has taken some objectively cruel and inhuman positions (in my view). It bothers me that he will probably be celebrated as some sort of Christian martyr, when, in my view, his positions (and the positions of the MAGA crowd in general) are completely antithetical to the actual teachings of Christ. In my view and my understanding of Christianity, it is our call to love - period. Hard stop. We shouldn’t be concerned with someone else’s gender, or immigration status, etc.. It is not our duty to convict non-believers; it is our duty to simply love them.
I’m saddened by this terrible event, but I’m also saddened by how much the Republican Party and the MAGA / Christian Nationalist movement has lost its way, in my view. None of this in any way, shape or form justifies murder.
I’m also concerned that this event and the normalization of it will be a catalyst for worse things to come from both sides. I hope I’m wrong.
Nah, they’ll get him. After what I have seen, I no longer think it was a professional hit.
What are you even talking about? He IS a Christian martyr!
He’ll be caught.
The photos caught of him show too much of his face.
There is a fairly popular documentary on Netflix about amateur detectives catching a cat killer with similar photos.
If average people can track someone off so little then the FBI will find him.
I’m iffy on if he’s actually a Pro because a Pro wouldn’t let cctv capture photos like that.
Well planned and cold blooded yes… Pro? Doubtful
I so extremely want him caught alive.
I’m going to use Congressional authority and every influence with big tech platforms to mandate immediate ban for life of every post or commenter that belittled the assassination of Charlie Kirk. If they ran their mouth with their smartass hatred celebrating the heinous murder of that beautiful young man who dedicated his whole life to delivering respectful conservative truth into the hearts of liberal enclave universities, armed only with a Bible and a microphone and a Constitution… those profiles must come down.
So, I’m going to lean forward in this fight, demanding that big tech have zero tolerance for violent political hate content, the user to be banned from ALL PLATFORMS FOREVER. I’m also going after their business licenses and permitting, their businesses will be blacklisted aggressively, they should be kicked from every school, and their drivers licenses should be revoked. I’m basically going to cancel with extreme prejudice these evil, sick animals who celebrated Charlie Kirk’s assassination.
I’m starting that today.
That is all.
No, No and NO!! This goes against everything Kirk stood for. He would NEVER approve of extreme left-wing tactics like censorship. And for those wondering if the right might respond with violence of their own, let this tweet be a warning. If the right is willing to throw away all they have fought for this easily, just imagine how easy it will be to dupe them into matching leftist tactics. They fell for this crap once already on J6; are they stupid enough to do it again?
So, I’m going to lean forward in this fight, demanding that big tech have zero tolerance for violent political hate content, the user to be banned from ALL PLATFORMS FOREVER. I’m also going after their business licenses and permitting, their businesses will be blacklisted aggressively, they should be kicked from every school, and their drivers licenses should be revoked. I’m basically going to cancel with extreme prejudice these evil, sick animals who celebrated Charlie Kirk’s assassination.
I’m starting that today.
That is all.
No, No and NO!! This goes against everything Kirk stood for. He would NEVER approve of extreme left-wing tactics like censorship. And for those wondering if the right might respond with violence of their own, let this tweet be a warning. If the right is willing to throw away all they have fought for this easily, just imagine how easy it will be to dupe them into matching leftist tactics. They fell for this crap once already on J6; are they stupid enough to do it again?
Truth be told, if there wasn't an R or D next to many politicians names, we wouldn't know what they supposedly stood for. Just imagine the things we don't see behind closed doors. Would blow some of your minds when you found out that the person that you consider Hitler and the person that is the savior act and think alike.
Charlie Kirk was a despicable person.
He didn't deserve what happened to him. In a just world, his hate and bile would be done away with in the marketplace of ideas. But MAGA is bereft of that. All they feed on is lunatic fringe.
You’re half right. In mainstream and traditional Christian (e.g. Catholic, Anglican, Methodist, etc.) apologetics, we’re called to love people so much that we want to see them saved and have their place in heaven secured. If as a Christian you believe people:
- Are sinning and repeatedly so, it’s a form of love to try to convince them of it and to change their ways.
- Have not accepted Christ, it’s a form of love to try get them to accept him.
To describe his approach as hateful is to redefine the term so that it is devoid of any objective meaning…
There it is...was only missing the "but"...
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