BREAKING Conservative Charlie Kirk Shot During Debate In Utah - part 2

[selmaborntidefan]

BEFORE

AFTER:

 

[Tidewater]

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Therefore ...
What does this tell us about Ms. Loomer and her relationship with "principles?"

 

[JDCrimson]

So all people are stupid because a handful of persons are dumb? Therein lies the problem...

You categorize many on here as lunatics just because they are debating another perspective of a man's life and death that THEY did not commit.

I guarantee you the same debate happened when MLK was assassinated. The absolute same thing happened when Jesus was crucified too.

There is irrefutable evidence that we went to the Moon, but a lot of people still think it was faked. A PERSON can be smart, but PEOPLE are stupid.

 

[Tidewater]

So all people are stupid because a handful of persons are dumb? Therein lies the problem...

You categorize many on here as lunatics just because they are debating another perspective of a man's life and death that THEY did not commit.

I guarantee you the same debate happened when MLK was assassinated. The absolute same thing happened when Jesus was crucified too.

Me personally, I would not terminate anyone for what they said or wrote, unless, as a business owner or supervisor, the individual making a horrendous statement was positively identified as an employee of the company/agency.
If someone celebrates Kirk's killing on a platform and nowhere states, "An employee of the Ace Tomato Company," then I would probably think less of them, but not terminate them.

 

[crimsonaudio]

Me personally, I would not terminate anyone for what they said or wrote, unless, as a business owner or supervisor, the individual making a horrendous statement was positively identified as an employee of the company/agency.
If someone celebrates Kirk's killing on a platform and nowhere states, "An employee of the Ace Tomato Company," then I would probably think less of them, but not terminate them.

It really depends on whether or not the witch hunt outed them. Once they're associated with my businesses - whether because they claimed it or not - they are a potential liability.

Beyond that, I would think long and hard about their judgement by posting something so obviously inflammatory to begin with - some businesses require a certain level of discretion.

 

[92tide]

Therefore ...
What does this tell us about Ms. Loomer and her relationship with "principles?"

i apologize, but i read that like this

 

[selmaborntidefan]

I certainly didn’t have Mike Shula on my Charlie Kirk murder bingo card.

The only thing Mike ever murdered was football play calling.

 

[92tide]

Bondi to prosecute Office Depot worker who refused to print Charlie Kirk flyers

Office Depot fired a Michigan employee who refused to print flyers for a Charlie Kirk vigil, claiming they were ‘propaganda’

www.independent.co.uk

apparently, they left "threatened" out of the headline

Attorney General Pam Bondi has threatened to prosecute a former private employee at Office Depot for refusing to print flyers for a Charlie Kirk vigil.

 

[Tidewater]

It really depends on whether or not the witch hunt outed them. Once they're associated with my businesses - whether because they claimed it or not - they are a potential liability.

Beyond that, I would think long and hard about their judgement by posting something so obviously inflammatory to begin with - some businesses require a certain level of discretion.

Sure.
And at the back of my mind would be the concept of "scope of agency." If I hire someone to be my spokesperson from a podium and from that podium they say something horrible, I would let them go.
If, on the other hand, they say something on Tiktok and nowhere on their Tiktok does it say, "Spokesman for the Ace Tomato," then I would hope I would respond to someone pointing out the offense by cirting the scope of agency. This person was not speaking for me on Tiktok, but for herself.

 

[Tidewater]

i apologize, but i read that like this

Wait, was Loomer wearing the carrot nose?

 

[AlexanderFan]

Can we all unite for five seconds here just to chuckle at the creativity?
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NO MORE DARBY UP THE MIDDLE DAMMIT

 

[92tide]

Wait, was Loomer wearing the carrot nose?

it was the botox of the times

 

[crimsonaudio]

Sure.
And at the back of my mind would be the concept of "scope of agency." If I hire someone to be my spokesperson from a podium and from that podium they say something horrible, I would let them go.
If, on the other hand, they say something on Tiktok and nowhere on their Tiktok does it say, "Spokesman for the Ace Tomato," then I would hope I would respond to someone pointing out the offense by cirting the scope of agency. This person was not speaking for me on Tiktok, but for herself.

My question would be - do you or have you ever owned your own business?

Not being snarky, just a real question.

Because the reality is keeping someone on who is willing to post such on social media is what most businesses that care about staying in business avoid. I couldn't care less what someone's position is, if they draw the ire of my (current or potential) customers due to their personal choices, I will remove them from my company.

 

[AlexanderFan]

Bondi to prosecute Office Depot worker who refused to print Charlie Kirk flyers

Office Depot fired a Michigan employee who refused to print flyers for a Charlie Kirk vigil, claiming they were ‘propaganda’

www.independent.co.uk

apparently, they left "threatened" out of the headline

Attorney General Pam Bondi has threatened to prosecute a former private employee at Office Depot for refusing to print flyers for a Charlie Kirk vigil.

I wondered how they would ensure the democrats take back the White House, turns out honestly being nazis will most likely do it.

 

[Crimson1967]

Sure.
And at the back of my mind would be the concept of "scope of agency." If I hire someone to be my spokesperson from a podium and from that podium they say something horrible, I would let them go.
If, on the other hand, they say something on Tiktok and nowhere on their Tiktok does it say, "Spokesman for the Ace Tomato," then I would hope I would respond to someone pointing out the offense by cirting the scope of agency. This person was not speaking for me on Tiktok, but for herself.

Would it matter what their job was for you? If one of your salespeople got doxxed for saying Kirk deserved to die, it would have a greater affect on your company than just some minimum wage guy in the canning room.

 

[AlexanderFan]

Would it matter what their job was for you? If one of your salespeople got doxxed for saying Kirk deserved to die, it would have a greater affect on your company than just some minimum wage guy in the canning room.

Probably not. If someone wants to make a big enough stink it wouldn’t matter where they worked in your company.

 

[arthurdawg]

Me personally, I would not terminate anyone for what they said or wrote, unless, as a business owner or supervisor, the individual making a horrendous statement was positively identified as an employee of the company/agency.
If someone celebrates Kirk's killing on a platform and nowhere states, "An employee of the Ace Tomato Company," then I would probably think less of them, but not terminate them.

It is very easy in such cases to say nothing at all and move along. Find a nice cat pic to like or such.

 

[Crimson1967]

I wondered how they would ensure the democrats take back the White House, turns out honestly being nazis will most likely do it.

I was told overturning Roe v Wade would guarantee a Democrat victory. What happened?

 

[selmaborntidefan]

I was told overturning Roe v Wade would guarantee a Democrat victory. What happened?

The fact that assumption was always 100% nonsense and based on wishful thinking is what happened. And some of us kept saying so for years. It’s an issue that stirs up emotions and doesn’t move enough votes in either direction to matter. Votes are won on two issues nationally, the economy and national security.

Folks got hit with all the evidence they needed when the GOP still took the house in 22. They would’ve taken the senate if they didn’t nominate a bunch of out and out kooks. And then took the trifecta because - everyone read carefully - there aren’t enough one issue voters on abortion to flip NATIONAL elections.

I don’t care what anyone’s favorite pundit says, l don’t care what anyone’s emotional appeal says, the data of elections since 1973 says otherwise. If abortion was the electoral winner people pretend, the pro-life GOP that won 44, 49, and 40 states in 3 straight elections after withdrawing ERA support prior to 1980 would have lost and badly. The guy who appointed three of the judges that overturned it GOT REELECTED against a candidate who pretty much had no idea at all what she thought on any single issue except that one.

Folks either accept this reality - and the data is inarguable- or they concoct myths to support their wrong idea. I’ve been asking since 1992 for someone to give me one election beyond MAYBE a House race (and l haven’t even found that) where abortion was without question the issue that won it. As I’ve said, Todd Akin didn’t lose to McCaskill because he opposed abortion (she lost the 2004 governor race to Matt Blunt, who was also pro-life), he lost because of the phrase “legitimate rape” and being a lousy candidate.

I’ve never denied that around 58% of those polled define themselves as pro-choice on the issue because that’s what the data shows (although some libertarian folks favor it being legal but would never have one). The data also shows abortion is not an issue - on either side - that wins elections that would otherwise be lost.

 

[selmaborntidefan]

I was told overturning Roe v Wade would guarantee a Democrat victory. What happened?

The excuses are legendaryof course.

democrats will tell you they lose elections because gerrymandering. But Senate seats cannot be gerrymander nor can governor races nor can the White House.

They will tell you they only lost because you know electoral college, but they just lost the popular vote last November.

That said, they are not in nearly as bad trouble as the press coverage keeps trying to say.