Bama Game Thread: Official PostGame Thread - Bama @ OU

[CrimsonBloodn62]

I know nothing about football, apparently.

In a couple of threads, I mentioned we know how this game was going to go after the first couple of series and that unless we started fast, we were in trouble.

I was certainly wrong about that.

But where I was a tad smarter(AND it's why I don't typically post during games especially when I'm upset), is I didn't post some of the really negative things I was thinking last night in the first quarter and a half!

This is why I don’t post in the game threads. Reading along during the game, you’d think CKD and the whole staff needed to be fired after the first quarter. Funny how much crow got eaten after last night.

 

[selmaborntidefan]

I know nothing about football, apparently.

In a couple of threads, I mentioned we know how this game was going to go after the first couple of series and that unless we started fast, we were in trouble.

I was certainly wrong about that.

But where I was a tad smarter(AND it's why I don't typically post during games especially when I'm upset), is I didn't post some of the really negative things I was thinking last night in the first quarter and a half!

The problem with football (and fans in general) is that there is a panic button the average fan hits way too soon. I liken coming back in a football game to what the late Richard Simmons always said about losing weight: "you didn't put it on overnight, and you can't take it off overnight." My point being that what FANS wanted when we were 17 points behind was one bomb for an 18-point touchdown to erase everything that happened previous.

My Oregon bud and I were texting during the 2016 Alabama-Ole Miss game. To those who recall - and boy was there a similar meltdown on this board during the first half that day - we fell behind, 24-3 after the Jalen fumbled ball for a TD. There was 2:47 left in the half, and my Oregon bud said, "You gotta pull your quarterback." I said, "No, he just needs to put together a drive that gets us some points. We get the ball to start the second half." Ole Miss got hit with a personal foul on the TD and we started at midfield and scored in just three plays.

24-10.

And then Eddie took it to the house on the punt return.

24-17 and we get the ball.

He texted me after the game, "Well what do I know about football?"



But this "hit the panic button" approach never works. One more example.


2012 SECCG. UGA blocks a FG and returns it for a 21-10 lead. My immediate thought for strategy: "Run the ball, 4 yards per play is all you need. Alternate Yeldon and Lacy as needed, punch it in, and we'll only be down by 21-17 and their D will be tired."

I was only wrong about one thing: we were only down 21-18.

 

[CrimsonBloodn62]

and we wiped the smirk off of that creep venables' face

I can’t stand Oklahoma or Venables. I think he’s a dirty, cheating coach. Venables really thought he was being cute by mocking CKD with the black hoodie.

 

[rolltide_21]

I agree with @crimsonaudio 's comment last night during game. While there ARE some classy OU fans (wishbone sooner is an outstanding example), the fact is that most Oklahoma fans are Michigan fans with more missing teeth. For years they'd dismiss our national championship count by removing the 1973 title (it was still legit, folks) to place themselves above us.

I respect what Oklahoma has accomplished as a program over the course of a century plus, yes, but I don't respect that their fans are barely more evolved than Auburn fans whose parents punished them by not letting them go to the weekend Tractor Pull.

I ran into an OU fan this summer at a Huddle House. Nice guy. He said, “Well at OU we’re about winning national championships.” I thought about being snarky and commenting on how they are dominating in softball haha

 

[BamaNation]

I ran into an OU fan this summer at a Huddle House. Nice guy. He said, “Well at OU we’re about winning national championships.” I thought about being snarky and commenting on how they are dominating in softball haha

Given their last one was 25+ years ago ... Did the guy's last name happen to be Van Winkle?

 

[Con]

I’m reading the ND media, seem they would have beaten both teams by40

In lacrosse maybe.

 

[BamaMoon]

The problem with football (and fans in general) is that there is a panic button the average fan hits way too soon. I liken coming back in a football game to what the late Richard Simmons always said about losing weight: "you didn't put it on overnight, and you can't take it off overnight." My point being that what FANS wanted when we were 17 points behind was one bomb for an 18-point touchdown to erase everything that happened previous.

"Our Coach," Coach Deboer - the one some on here said some really bad things about last night, actually said the same thing in the post-game.

You can't score 17 points in one play so you have to play one play at a time. Sounds like another Bama coach who knew a little about winning, right?

 

[selmaborntidefan]

I ran into an OU fan this summer at a Huddle House. Nice guy. He said, “Well at OU we’re about winning national championships.” I thought about being snarky and commenting on how they are dominating in softball haha

Here's the thing: why don't any of the people who attack ALABAMA'S national titles EVER attack Oklahoma's? Seriously.


1950 - yes, they were unbeaten and voted the title, but they lost to Kentucky in the bowl game to some guy named Bryant. That's what they say about Alabama in 1964.

1955 - they were on two years of probation

1956 - again, they were still on probation

1974 - on probation, couldn't even play on TV, no bowl

1975 - still on probation; their TV ban ended with an Orange Bowl appearance

1985 - though they played and beat Penn State for the title, that game never should have happened. Oklahoma lost AT HOME to Miami, 27-14, on October 19, but the pollsters NEVER put Miami ahead of Oklahoma (the AP did after the Canes blasted Notre Dame, 58-7, in the season finale).

2000 - OK, I guess this is an earned title although they managed to avoid playing Miami, who reeled off a long winning streak at the time.


Using Auburn logic, Oklahoma has one legit national championship.

 

[Ledsteplin]

I'll be honest. I couldn't bear to keep watching when it got to 17-0. I changed to Paramount+ and put Star Trek: DS9 on. But I had the game on my iPhone on Xfinity Stream. So I kept peeking to see what was going on. But didn't want to jinx it. So as I watched Star Trek on my big TV screen, I would peek at my phone to see the game. This strategy worked and they went on a 34-7 run. I put the game back on TV with about 4 minutes left.
Kane made a huge difference when he switched defensive strategy. Ty did really well without so much blitzing.

 

[CB4]

What I find ironic is this game was almost a role reversal from the game a month ago in Tuscaloosa. OU had the edge in most every statistical category much the same as we did back in November. And just like that game it was turnovers (Pick for TD, fumbled punt by punter) and special teams (shanked punt, missed FGs) that was the difference.

Both OU and Bama are very talented, but both have warts and flaws. And when teams like that meet, it is usually turnovers and special teams that make the biggest difference.

I want us to beat Indiana and everything beyond that is gravy. I want it to be abundantly clear that BAMA WAS one of the 12 best teams.

The stuff of automatic qualifiers is ridiculous. I hope OM beats Tulane by 40 and Oregon beats JMU by 80. Needs to be the 12 best teams. Period.

Hopefully, if that happens, it sends the message that strength of schedule and strength of record MEAN something. It isn’t just about number of losses.

 

[DzynKingRTR]

The problem with football (and fans in general) is that there is a panic button the average fan hits way too soon. I liken coming back in a football game to what the late Richard Simmons always said about losing weight: "you didn't put it on overnight, and you can't take it off overnight." My point being that what FANS wanted when we were 17 points behind was one bomb for an 18-point touchdown to erase everything that happened previous.

My Oregon bud and I were texting during the 2016 Alabama-Ole Miss game. To those who recall - and boy was there a similar meltdown on this board during the first half that day - we fell behind, 24-3 after the Jalen fumbled ball for a TD. There was 2:47 left in the half, and my Oregon bud said, "You gotta pull your quarterback." I said, "No, he just needs to put together a drive that gets us some points. We get the ball to start the second half." Ole Miss got hit with a personal foul on the TD and we started at midfield and scored in just three plays.

24-10.

And then Eddie took it to the house on the punt return.

24-17 and we get the ball.

He texted me after the game, "Well what do I know about football?"



But this "hit the panic button" approach never works. One more example.


2012 SECCG. UGA blocks a FG and returns it for a 21-10 lead. My immediate thought for strategy: "Run the ball, 4 yards per play is all you need. Alternate Yeldon and Lacy as needed, punch it in, and we'll only be down by 21-17 and their D will be tired."

I was only wrong about one thing: we were only down 21-18.

In everyone's that was critical in the 1st quarter defense we looked unprepared, clumsy, scared. it looked worse that the sec championship game. It looked like the meatchicken rumor was true and DeBoer had one foot out the door and had told the team and nobody cared. It was pathetic and infuriating. Now in hindsight, I think it could have been nerves or the sooners were maybe throwing something at us that threw us off our plan and we adjusted. I will own it. I was wrong and overreacted. I feel confident we beat Indiana, but cannot start like we did last night.

 

[dvldog]

Field position had a lot to do with our bad first quarter. That and our propensity to run on first down sitting up a second and ten and a certainty to pass.

 

[selmaborntidefan]

"Our Coach," Coach Deboer - the one some on here said some really bad things about last night, actually said the same thing in the post-game.

You can't score 17 points in one play so you have to play one play at a time. Sounds like another Bama coach who knew a little about winning, right?

I didn't watch the postgame but that's good.

This is a guy whose Washington team in 2023 trailed 1-5 Arizona State, 7-3, entering the fourth quarter and won. Whose team kicked a game-winning field goal on the last play of the Apple Cup to topple 5-6 Wazzu, 24-21. Who trailed SCAR in both 2024 and 2025 entering the fourth quarter - and won both. Who fell behind Michigan, 16-0, in the bowl game last year and battled back to what would have been a win but for FIVE turnovers (folks, Saban couldn't overcome 5 TOs, either). He had the big play at the end win against Georgia in 2024 and Auburn in 2025.


I think what we have to accept is that THIS IS WHO HE HAS ALWAYS BEEN.

What is needed is improvement at the margins with discipline, football intelligence (like quick run the play to stop the review), and better development of the offensive line.

Compared to the best coaches of recent years, he's a cut below.
But he's not nearly as bad as some suggest, either.


At the same time - the onus is on CKD to DO WHAT IS NECESSARY to plug those gaps, too.

 

[selmaborntidefan]

In everyone's that was critical in the 1st quarter defense we looked unprepared, clumsy, scared. it looked worse that the sec championship game. It looked like the meatchicken rumor was true and DeBoer had one foot out the door and had told the team and nobody cared. It was pathetic and infuriating. Now in hindsight, I think it could have been nerves or the sooners were maybe throwing something at us that threw us off our plan and we adjusted. I will own it. I was wrong and overreacted. I feel confident we beat Indiana, but cannot start like we did last night.

I agree with this, but a lot of that stuff was PTSD.

Just because Franchione did that doesn't mean DeBoer did.


I mean, I "get" the frustration early on, I had it myself.

But I also never believed OU was "that much" better than we were even in the first quarter. The difference with us is Womack isn't Pete Golding and actually knew how to make adjustments.

 

[rolltide_21]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2002220805233451083

 

[BamaMoon]

I didn't watch the postgame but that's good.

This is a guy whose Washington team in 2023 trailed 1-5 Arizona State, 7-3, entering the fourth quarter and won. Whose team kicked a game-winning field goal on the last play of the Apple Cup to topple 5-6 Wazzu, 24-21. Who trailed SCAR in both 2024 and 2025 entering the fourth quarter - and won both. Who fell behind Michigan, 16-0, in the bowl game last year and battled back to what would have been a win but for FIVE turnovers (folks, Saban couldn't overcome 5 TOs, either). He had the big play at the end win against Georgia in 2024 and Auburn in 2025.


I think what we have to accept is that THIS IS WHO HE HAS ALWAYS BEEN.

What is needed is improvement at the margins with discipline, football intelligence (like quick run the play to stop the review), and better development of the offensive line.

Compared to the best coaches of recent years, he's a cut below.
But he's not nearly as bad as some suggest, either.


At the same time - the onus is on CKD to DO WHAT IS NECESSARY to plug those gaps, too.

Yes, but I think he'll figure that out. He's still a young coach.

CNS, at his age, had only won 1 NC - his first and only one at LSU.

The point is, many posters need to take a chill pill on CDK and realize he's a pretty good coach, right now, but hopefully will get better. Furthermore, we need to be thankful we have him.

But the constant "fire him" and/or "let Michigan have him" is getting beyond ridiculous.

 

[rolltide_21]

I think we can relate. Read the first half thread from last night-

https://twitter.com/x/status/2002218488333578291

 

[CB4]

I agree with this, but a lot of that stuff was PTSD.

Just because Franchione did that doesn't mean DeBoer did.


I mean, I "get" the frustration early on, I had it myself.

But I also never believed OU was "that much" better than we were even in the first quarter. The difference with us is Womack isn't Pete Golding and actually knew how to make adjustments.

The biggest difference in that first quarter we played mostly four man front with zone behind it. Very little blitzing or stunts and no pressure on Mateer. We started mixing coverages, mixing front looks and confusing their OL and gave Mateer the “happy feet”.

Wommack seems to have a tendency to play pretty vanilla early until he gets a feel for what the other team is doing.

 

[davefrat]

Field position had a lot to do with our bad first quarter. That and our propensity to run on first down sitting up a second and ten and a certainty to pass.

Thank heavens we wised up and decided to take the fair catch on kickoffs instead of starting out at our own 12.

 

[JustNeedMe81]

The biggest difference in that first quarter we played mostly four man front with zone behind it. Very little blitzing or stunts and no pressure on Mateer. We started mixing coverages, mixing front looks and confusing their OL and gave Mateer the “happy feet”.

Wommack seems to have a tendency early to play pretty vanilla early until he gets a feel for what the other team is doing.

This. As much I hate the zone coverage defense at time, I kept saying to myself, they can still make adjustments and come back. I was in denial at that time...