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Should College Athletes get Pay

Should Football Players and other Student Athletes get paid?

  • YES

    Votes: 28 30.1%

  • NO

    Votes: 62 66.7%

  • Do Not Know

    Votes: 1 1.1%

  • Don't Care

    Votes: 2 2.2%
  • Total voters
    93
  • Poll closed .
TIDE-HSV said:
It's important not to throw out the baby with the bath - to paint all athletes with the same brush. The guys I know DO find jobs to fill in when they can. The point is the level playing field. They should get what the scholarshipped athletes at the other schools get. They haven't been getting that, but I'm confident that CNS will remedy that situation. If anyone totted up the years on me, that's eight years working, but still with a sizeable student loan, and conventional loans, to pay off. IF I ever say anything like "I worked, so they get too much," just shoot me. Their berth lies with harder "work" than I ever had to put up with...
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Why haven't they been getting the $$$ that other schools give? Did it have anything to do with the limitations? I know at FSU they got plenty.

BTW - When my Grandpa worked at the Farley Nuclear Plant in Dothan, Bo Jackson worked with him during the summer one year while he was at the Barn. A "name" dropping moment!:biggrin2:
 
No, it had nothing to do with anything other than laziness and incompetence (and downright callousness) on the part of the past coaching regime...
 
TIDE-HSV said:
As noted above, we already pay them. As also noted above, we can't really afford to pay them what they're worth in entertainment value. Title IX alone dictates that. What I have a problem with is the gap in assumptions between reality and the rarified air the NCAA breathes. A lot of these kids have kids. Their obligations go on 24/7/52/365. It's a fact of life. Under the CMS regime, not a lot of attention was paid to the fact that players were falling between the cracks in the summers and between terms, even when there were possible actions the FB program could have taken. This was just one more example of unconsciousness in a program which seemed to be running on auto pilot much of the time. I could go on, but I detect my blood pressure rising. Somehow, I don't think I'll see the present staff trying to penalize a kid for going home for a grandmother's funeral (when that is the person who raised the player). I think they're conscious. But something has to be done to align the stipend regs with the realities of our player's lives. The last staff didn't even do what the present NCAA regs would allow...
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Wasn't there a case at UGA a few years ago where on of the assistant coaches let a player borrow his car to get home. The players mother was on her deathbed. I think the NCAA took action on this.

I am not sure if this a true story or urban legend. In any case it speaks volumes about the way people view the NCAA.
 
Noah.Dreams said:
That only pays the medical bills. Disability coverage is much more than that. Your links indicate that disability coverage is available but ONLY to the exceptional athlete. This should be the standard and not the exception.
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Not sure that I agree. They choose to play the sport in return for a free education as well as the training and exposure necessary to prepare them for a shot at a professional career in sports. If they are injured, that injury should be treated - but do you know how expensive it would be for universities for the type of long term disability that you suggest?

These are athletes. There is a high likelihood of injury. The insurance would be very expensive for one athlete, much less the hundreds at every school.

Long term disability is a paycheck for life. That should not be built in to scholarships for athletes. If they stay in school, all but a few can live very happy and productive lives after an injury. Prothro, for instance, will be very successful in life. Not because of who he is, but because of what he did while wearing the Crimson jersey, and because he has a degree from Alabama. That should be enough...
 
So what you're saying is... if a football player is paralyzed, the university's responsibility ends with rehab?

NYBamaFan said:
Not sure that I agree. They choose to play the sport in return for a free education as well as the training and exposure necessary to prepare them for a shot at a professional career in sports. If they are injured, that injury should be treated - but do you know how expensive it would be for universities for the type of long term disability that you suggest?

These are athletes. There is a high likelihood of injury. The insurance would be very expensive for one athlete, much less the hundreds at every school.

Long term disability is a paycheck for life. That should not be built in to scholarships for athletes. If they stay in school, all but a few can live very happy and productive lives after an injury. Prothro, for instance, will be very successful in life. Not because of who he is, but because of what he did while wearing the Crimson jersey, and because he has a degree from Alabama. That should be enough...
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Noah.Dreams said:
So what you're saying is... if a football player is paralyzed, the university's responsibility ends with rehab?
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Pretty much, yeah. Of course, Bama fans and Alabama charities would be sure that he was taken care of, but the University cannot be held accountable for fluke injuries. I would hope (and expect) that a Bama athlete hurt like this while participating in a sport for the Tide would be taken care of, but it would be far less expensive to self-fund this sort of thing than to buy insurance...
 
I'm doing a lot of thinking as I read this thread. I tend to agree that the University can't really afford disability insurance for every disability of every degree. Most FB players come out of college with bad knees, for example. OTOH, it seems fair to me to cover catastrophic injuries - paralysis, for example. The example comes to mind of the TCU player who got paralyzed in our bowl game with them. The school and the TCU alums (forget what the school name is) did nothing for him. I think that I remember his suing the school. It turned out that Coach Bryant and Bama alums supported him in the last part of his life. Coverage for this type of injury would cost far less than comprehensive disability insurance...
 
TIDE-HSV said:
I'm doing a lot of thinking as I read this thread. I tend to agree that the University can't really afford disability insurance for every disability of every degree. Most FB players come out of college with bad knees, for example. OTOH, it seems fair to me to cover catastrophic injuries - paralysis, for example. The example comes to mind of the TCU player who got paralyzed in our bowl game with them. The school and the TCU alums (forget what the school name is) did nothing for him. I think that I remember his suing the school. It turned out that Coach Bryant and Bama alums supported him in the last part of his life. Coverage for this type of injury would cost far less than comprehensive disability insurance...
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Kent Waldrep. 1974 Bama/TCU Legion Field regular season game, I believe.

:biga2:
 
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I would like to see The University of Alabama take the lead and offer long term disability coverage to each and every football. Not only would it be a great PR coup, it would be a tremendous recruiting advantage.

Especially since the football program generates a $28 million annual profit on revenue of $44 million. The University of Alabama System can easily roll this into the existing coverage offered to it's employees.
 
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Noah.Dreams said:
I would like to see The University of Alabama take the lead and offer long term disability coverage to each and every football. Not only would it be a great PR coup, it would be a tremendous recruiting advantage.

Especially since the football program generates a $28 million annual profit on revenue of $44 million. The University of Alabama System can easily roll this into it's existing coverage offered to it's employees.
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i have no way of telling you what the university or even the Athletic Departments stance on this is but i'm gonna throw out an idea and see what everyone thinks about it. Why not allow the fan base to do something about this issue...why not start some sort of non-profit branch of the AD that takes in donations to help veteran tide players pay for medical coverage that they can't afford, for all of the tide players that go on to become successful in the NFL there have to be some who arent so successful and i know i would want to support them....just an idea.
 
Earle,
Not only is Kent Waldrep alive and doing well, his son is enrolled at the University of Alabama. He is the only non-Bryant-player's child to attend the University on a Bryant Scholarship. Coach Moore made that choice and Paul Jr. agreed.
 
alex,
Your idea is a good one. The problem would be with the NCAA that would see this as an illegal benefit. They would view it no differently if a fan promised a player a job after college.
 
Thanks, 46. I think I got Kent crossed up in my mind with Chucky Mullins. And, I tend to agree with you on the "reserve fund" idea. I know that NCAA schools can provide health insurance during an athlete's career. I don't know about disability insurance, but there seems to be enough interest for one of us to look it up...
 
Doesn't Llloyd's of London already write these policies for star players in the NCAA?

TIDE-HSV said:
Thanks, 46. I think I got Kent crossed up in my mind with Chucky Mullins. And, I tend to agree with you on the "reserve fund" idea. I know that NCAA schools can provide health insurance during an athlete's career. I don't know about disability insurance, but there seems to be enough interest for one of us to look it up...
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I think the policy is for career ending injuries but is paid for by the althlete. I will find out in the morning and post what I have learn .
 
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