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Tired of all the "Saban will leave" talk

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The media, sports pundits, the Bama haters and many on this message board are spending too much time and giving too much credence to the possibility/probability that Nick Saban will be at Alabama for a very few years and then leave. They claim it is his modus.
Look at his history.
In Saban's early years he moved around to get himself positioned for a major head coaching job. Perfectly reasonable and about the only way it can be done. He was highly regarded every where he coached. Those moves set him up just right when LSU came calling.

He immediately fielded championship caliber teams and won a national championship.

When a coach wins a championship, obviously the pros are going to go after him. A name college coach who wins a national championship can sell a lot of tickets.

Problem is, pro coaching is not like college coaching. Different attributes and styles are required. Steve Spurrier is one of the best, if not the best, college coaches in the country, but he was not successful in the pros. Nick Saban was not successful in the pros. So, it is much better to make the change sooner than later and get back in the arena one knows best, just as Spurrier did. I give Nick Saban a lot credit for correctly anayzing his situation and aligning himself with a program that has great promise for success. Arguably he ended up with the best coaching job in the business. At least I think it is.

To me, this reverse move makes him one smart cookie.

Now, if he is successful at Alabama, other schools and, yes, the pros will come calling again. If he then leaves, he will have left us in great shape, just like he left LSU. However, you can name on how many fingers the college programs that could pull a successful coach from Alabama? I doubt if he would ever again entertain an offer from the pros. It just isn't him.

Nick Saban successfully orchestrated his rise to the top. Since it required some moving around to accomplish, let's be happy for his moves.

I am confident that as Saban gets enculturated into the Bama mystic, he will become one of us for life. So let's quit worrying about his leaving us, and enjoy the time we have him
 
ncbama said:
The media, sports pundits, the Bama haters and many on this message board are spending too much time and giving too much credence to the possibility/probability that Nick Saban will be at Alabama for a very few years and then leave. They claim it is his modus.
Look at his history.
In Saban's early years he moved around to get himself positioned for a major head coaching job. Perfectly reasonable and about the only way it can be done. He was highly regarded every where he coached. Those moves set him up just right when LSU came calling.

He immediately fielded championship caliber teams and won a national championship.

When a coach wins a championship, obviously the pros are going to go after him. A name college coach who wins a national championship can sell a lot of tickets.

Problem is, pro coaching is not like college coaching. Different attributes and styles are required. Steve Spurrier is one of the best, if not the best, college coaches in the country, but he was not successful in the pros. Nick Saban was not successful in the pros. So, it is much better to make the change sooner than later and get back in the arena one knows best, just as Spurrier did. I give Nick Saban a lot credit for correctly anayzing his situation and aligning himself with a program that has great promise for success. Arguably he ended up with the best coaching job in the business. At least I think it is.

To me, this reverse move makes him one smart cookie.

Now, if he is successful at Alabama, other schools and, yes, the pros will come calling again. If he then leaves, he will have left us in great shape, just like he left LSU. However, you can name on how many fingers the college programs that could pull a successful coach from Alabama? I doubt if he would ever again entertain an offer from the pros. It just isn't him.

Nick Saban successfully orchestrated his rise to the top. Since it required some moving around to accomplish, let's be happy for his moves.

I am confident that as Saban gets enculturated into the Bama mystic, he will become one of us for life. So let's quit worrying about his leaving us, and enjoy the time we have him
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I agree with everything you said except the last bit. I don't see him leaving for the pro's again, and there are few jobs that would woo him from Bama. But dont' fool yourself into thinking he loves Bama or the Bama mystic, that's why LSU fans can't accept that he can coach against us. It's the job he loves, and he wouldn't have any problem coaching against Bama, it's just the circumstances are right for a long stay at the capstone. Sometimes it's better to be lucky than good. Just my opinion.:smile:
 
I'm not one to take deep and philosophical looks at things like this but to me if Saban were to leave it would be because someone offered him more money. Name 10 schools that could offer him +4,000,000 a year. The phony woke us up and showed us there is no such thing as loyalty. We'll never be outbid again bc now we know the rules of the game. If Saban leaves it will be for a lesser amount of money (who does that) or bc we're not willing to increase his salary to meet other school's offers. My list of schools that could pay 4mill + is below. Notice most of them have coaches that aren't going anywhere soon and there are more than a few maybe's.

ACC: NONE
Big XII: Oklahoma/A&M (they're locked down to phony for a while so this is a maybe for budget reasons)/Texas
Big East: NONE
Big Ten: OSU, Mich.
Pac 10: USC (maybe)
SEC: UT/AU/Florida/LSU/UGA (AU/LSU are maybe's bc I don't know their funding)
Ind: Notre Dame
 
Seriously, he's here now and that is all that matters.


I agree with the post above though, what other schools can really offer a better contract? Nobody is going to leave for less money.

Oklahoma, Notre Dame, the elite SEC schools, OSU, Michigan, Penn St, and USC are the only schools that are willing to toss around that kind of cash.

OU, OSU, USC are set at HC, Notre Dame has Weis unless a great NFL job is open, and I don't think he'd leave one SEC school immediately for another but I guess you could never really know. Basically, the only schools that could compete with us financially have their man and we shouldn't be too worried.


And if he does leave, lets hope he leaves the cupboard as full as he did for our Bayou buddies.
 
If you folks think it's bad now, wait until we get a couple of 10+ win seasons under our belts. All the dogs out there yapping at our heels are going to be loudly singing some Patsy Cline, "You've Got Leavin' on Your Mind" to whoever will listen. We need as a fan base to turn a deaf ear to all that crap because it ain't going away any time soon. Let's get ready for the next game.
 
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Unless there is someone out there who can see the future or has traveled to the future and returned :), all this talk is just that.....talk. It means absolutely nothing. I don't know how long CNS is going to be here, but I'll enjoy every minute that he is. :biggrin2:
 
CNS is back in the SEC awaiting the next coup on the plains, his grand master plan is to coach at moo ag u , he just took the scenic route through southbeach and the Capstone!.... do I have to post the wink?
 
It doesn't bother me in the least if he leaves in a couple of years. By then, the program will be back at, or near, the top. CNS isn't the only person that can coach college football.
 
Michigan is about the only school that I think could lure Coach Saban away from Bama. Coach Carr is on a warm seat too, he needs to beat OSU.
 
Think the talk is bad now? Wait until Saban loses a game. The Vandy game has meltdown potential. Last year we barely beat them by a field goal at home. In a few months we gotta play at their house. I can already see the talking heads now: "Hey Bama, you dont need to pay 40 million to lose to <insert team here>"
 
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Think the talk is bad now? Wait until Saban loses a game. The Vandy game has meltdown potential. Last year we barely beat them by a field goal at home. In a few months we gotta play at their house. I can already see the talking heads now: "Hey Bama, you dont need to pay 40 million to lose to <insert team here>"
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or worse, we win a mnc, then all the 'he has nothing left to accomplish' talk will begin.
 
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Think the talk is bad now? Wait until Saban loses a game. The Vandy game has meltdown potential. Last year we barely beat them by a field goal at home. In a few months we gotta play at their house. I can already see the talking heads now: "Hey Bama, you dont need to pay 40 million to lose to <insert team here>"
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Believe me. Us and Vandy are not in the same level of talent. Only reason we barley beat them by a FG is because of the crapy playcalling. I am not trying to say "oh they can't touch us". Its just that they are still Vandy and we jump on top early then its over.
 
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really the only way I see him leaving of his own accord is if he was successful at Bama and wanted to do like spurrier take on a job with a team that has never been there.
 
Coach will step down after his 10 season and three national titles. JMHO. :BigA:

He will go down as one of the greatest Alabama coaches of all time. Ears, Miles, and Fulmer will all be long gone and forgotten.

*Miles leaves for Michigan after this season.
*Fulmer gets fired and Cutcliff takes over.
*Ears goes Pro after this season. Miami. Cam Cameron does not make one season in Miami. With the arrest of three Miami players this year alone, Cam can not last much longer. The players are not taking him serious down in Miami.
 
I'm really not hearing a lot of this kind of "talk" where I'm at, but it is true we live in a day and time where coaches simply do not put down roots and stay at a program 15-25 years anymore--it's virtually unheard of for a coach to stay anywhere 10 years. If I had to bet my hard earned money right now on whether or not I thought he would stay eight years and fulfill his contract, I would honestly have to bet against it. But I have no doubt that, barring something catastrophic happening, he WILL stay long enough to get our program back to respectability and competing for championships year in and year out like we were during the Stallings years, and hopefully groom a successor in the process. This is one of the top five college jobs in the country in my opinion and I think he knows that, and that had a lot to do with why he took it. Nick seems to enjoy the challenge of rebuilding programs and he will certainly have that opportunity here. I agree--let's not focus on when he might leave in the future, but enjoy the time that he is our head coach. Even if and when he does leave, Alabama football will go on, folks.
 
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Think the talk is bad now? Wait until Saban loses a game. The Vandy game has meltdown potential. Last year we barely beat them by a field goal at home. In a few months we gotta play at their house. I can already see the talking heads now: "Hey Bama, you dont need to pay 40 million to lose to <insert team here>"
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You're right there and everyone else knows this as well. The problem is I'm really having a hard time deciding between Arkansas and Vandy which will be the tougher game. Fortunately for us Vandy has almost no home field advantage but then this time we won't either.
 
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