ICE Officer Kills Motorist In Minneapolis

This particular example is less a matter of video's ability to show opposite thangs and more of MAGA's ability to deny reality.

Not necessarily.

The opposite view indisputably shows she hit the guy, which TW has pointed out (which has led to "this video was doctored", which sure as hell sounds like Trumpism to me); the back view DOES show she turned her car away and it wasn't a straight drive into the ICE guy (who in my POV shouldn't have been standing in front of the car anyway). In other words, the video shows (and to a degree does support) both points of view.

It still seems to me that sending ICE into.......MINNESOTA.....is little more than sticking it in the eye of Tim Walz. Minneapolis is a good 300 miles from the border he's trying to close. That's like putting ICE on the campus in Austin to prevent an invasion from Mexico.
 
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Not necessarily.

The opposite view indisputably shows she hit the guy, which TW has pointed out (which has led to "this video was doctored", which sure as hell sounds like Trumpism to me); the back view DOES show she turned her car away and it wasn't a straight drive into the ICE guy (who in my POV shouldn't have been standing in front of the car anyway). In other words, the video shows (and to a degree does support) both points of view.

It still seems to me that sending ICE into.......MINNESOTA.....is little more than sticking it in the eye of Tim Walz. Minneapolis is a good 300 miles from the border he's trying to close. That's like putting ICE on the campus in Austin to prevent an invasion from Mexico.
I should have been clearer. i was referring to MAGA using 1/6 video as evidence that it was just a peaceful protest. And just about any of their other views about Trump being a true patriot, a real Christian, or anything resembling a decent human being.

Regarding "this video was doctored": It certainly looks as though the video--the one with "I'm a Believer" playing over it--has been sped up, presumably in an attempt to make the driver's actions appear more aggressive than they really were.

From a broader perspective, Trump has, IMO, been wanting an incident like this for some time. Will be interesting to see what he does next in response. The FBI hasd already announced that they are assuming control of the investigation, and have blocked the Minnesota Bureau of Investigation from any and all evidence.
 
So... Has any reporting been done on what happened before the lady is in the street? Did she in fact live on this road? If so, how do we know she was purposely pulling in front of ICE to harass then and wasn't just distracted and pulled out? Was she known as an anti-ICE agitator?

In that case, you have a woman pull out and a car barely misses her on iced up streets, and suddenly an unmarked (? markings, not sure) and people wearing vaguely militaristic gear come flooding out of a truck with guns drawn, wearing masks (which are not needed for routine LEO work, they only wear these to be cowboys and because they lack training and functional leadership) and start screaming at her. She is trying to get out of the way and get away, likely panicking, and then one of the guys steps in front of her and blows her away.

Anyway you run this scenario, there is no reason for a bunch of masked LEOs to come piling out, draw weapons and start shooting at a person who has evinced no weapons and may be guilty of nothing more than pulling out into the street without looking.

It appears we do indeed have Wayne LaPierre's "Jack Booted Federal Thugs" on the loose.

In any case, interested if any of the above questions are truly and truthfully known?
 
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Regarding "this video was doctored": It certainly looks as though the video--the one with "I'm a Believer" playing over it--has been sped up, presumably in an attempt to make the driver's actions appear more aggressive than they really were.

Yes, I saw that later, and it's why I withhold judgment.

Bear in mind, I'm still wondering what the emergency in MSP is beyond Donald Trump is an angry drunken uncle. I'm deeply apprehensive about that part - without which none of the rest happens.
 

There are two people who should have taken the second chance at life seriously, changed their names, dyed their hair and disappeared:

George Zimmerman
Kyle Rittenhouse

I don't know if the name Shawn Eckhardt would ring a bell with most people, but he was Tonya Harding's bodyguard who helped plan the assault on Nancy Kerrigan. Several years ago, I was minding my own bidness and saw a headline that said Brian Griffith had died, Harding's former bodyguard. It was only when I read the story that I learned that Griffith had been Shawn Eckhardt and was so embarrassed by his actions (and prison sentence) that he changed his name. It puzzled me because I had followed that case when it happened, and I'd never heard of Griffith.


Some people need the good sense to know when to take the mulligan and go on with life, especially when you ended someone(s) else's.
 
So... Has any reporting been done on what happened before the lady is in the street? Did she in fact live on this road? If so, how do we know she was purposely pulling in front of ICE to harass then and wasn't just distracted and pulled out? Was she known as an anti-ICE agitator?

See, this is what has me curious - God help us if we had a simple case of a mistake in the road.
 
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See, this is what has me curious - God help us if we had a simple case of a mistake in the road.
She didn't live on the road. She was there with her wife for the protest, There is a video of the wife, in the aftermath of the shooting, crying, saying she asked her to be there for the protest and now she was dead. The parking of the cars in order to block ICE is part of the protest game plan. Protestors have been doing the same thing in other locations as well. In this case she appears to have taken it all the way up to the brink and died because of it. Such an avoidable tragedy.
 
So... Has any reporting been done on what happened before the lady is in the street? Did she in fact live on this road? If so, how do we know she was purposely pulling in front of ICE to harass then and wasn't just distracted and pulled out? Was she known as an anti-ICE agitator?

In that case, you have a woman pull out and a car barely misses her on iced up streets, and suddenly an unmarked (? markings, not sure) and people wearing vaguely militaristic gear come flooding out of a truck with guns drawn, wearing masks (which are not needed for routine LEO work, they only wear these to be cowboys and because they lack training and functional leadership) and start screaming at her. She is trying to get out of the way and get away, likely panicking, and then one of the guys steps in front of her and blows her away.

Anyway you run this scenario, there is no reason for a bunch of masked LEOs to come piling out, draw weapons and start shooting at a person who has evinced no weapons and may be guilty of nothing more than pulling out into the street without looking.

It appears we do indeed have Wayne LaPierre's "Jack Booted Federal Thugs" on the loose.

In any case, interested if any of the above questions are truly and truthfully known?
My understanding from earlier reading was that it happened in front of her residence and she was trying to back out...
 
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My understanding from earlier reading was that it happened in front of her residence and she was trying to back out...
I read that she was from Colorado, but looking closely, those sure look like Missouri plates to me. Of course, my vision is dog crap nowadays, so take that for what it's worth.
 
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