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ICE Officer Kills Motorist In Minneapolis
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they'll have to stop telling those areas to just comply first
Well, the government keeps saying the worst of the worst is in Minneapolis, and they should know. They sent them there. That said, I have agree with the post above about the foolishness of taking a gun to a demonstration, unless he were on the way to of from work and carries it routinely and happened by this incident. How could he possibly have defended himself against all that firepower, anyway? In fact, it's a criminal offense in Alabama to have a firearm at a demonstration in a public place, even in your vehicle, not just on your person...
The Atlantic gift article
The Trump administration has once again immersed the United States in a crisis. The officers who are supposed to be protecting America’s borders have again been unleashed on an American city—this time, Minneapolis. The authorities in Minnesota want the Border Patrol and ICE forces to leave; the U.S. government’s response has been to continue to allow them to operate without any limits. These agents are now behaving like a roving mob, a riot squad in balaclavas desperately in search of a riot—and for the second time in 17 days, they have killed one of the American citizens protesting their police-state behavior.
Today’s victim was a 37-year-old ICU nurse named Alex Pretti, shot multiple times while lying on the ground after taking a beating from government agents.
As if to prove that they can always make a terrible situation worse, Trump-administration officials have made a series of statements; some of them are tasteless and immature, while others challenge the intelligence of anyone who has viewed the multiple videos of the killing. Secretary of Homeland Security Kristi Noem claimed that the victim walked up to the agents with the intent to slay several of them. White House Deputy Chief of Staff Stephen Miller posted on X that an “assassin tried to murder federal agents.” Neither of these seems to correspond with the video evidence.
Minneapolis police say Pretti had a firearms permit, and that open carry is legal in the state for permit holders. Video of the incident shows him holding a phone, not a gun. Officers do not seem to have realized he was armed until after they pinned him to the ground, and the video does not show them opening fire until after they have taken away his pistol.
The situation looks bad from every angle, which is probably why administration figures are spinning this moment as hard as possible. But what on earth is the self-styled secretary of war, Pete Hegseth, talking about—and why is he talking at all?
Late this afternoon, Hegseth posted this from his personal account on X:
Worse, the secretary seems to be implying that the government of Minnesota is an enemy of the United States. “ICE > MN” might mean that ICE is … better than Minnesota? Sovereign over Minnesota? Whatever the intent of this formulation, Hegseth thinks ICE is “saving the country,” apparently from the elected leaders of Minnesota and the “lunatics” in the street. (These “lunatics” are also known as “American citizens.”)
Hegseth has neither the legal authority nor the right—and certainly not the moral standing—to make such claims. Statements by incompetent appointees like Noem are bad enough, but Hegseth committing the United States military to “have the backs” of men who shot to death a citizen lying in the street, before the shooting has even been investigated, is beyond irresponsible. Unfortunately, such recklessness is to be expected from a man, and an administration, that treats any city, state, or government agency not controlled by Trump loyalists as an enemy.
Perhaps Hegseth was only showing off. He is an immature and undisciplined man, and he may be trying to prove that he, too, can say something terrible in the wake of a shocking moment of violence. But the secretary of defense is supposed to be the steward of the American military. He is supposed to keep the armed forces out of all but the most dire civil disturbances; instead, Hegseth is trying to involve them in a lawless mess created by another government department. He is supposed to keep the military professional, ready, and apolitical; instead, Hegseth has identified a bunch of rogue civilians as brothers-in-arms, and promised to protect them. He is supposed to keep the American military ready to fight foreign enemies; instead, Hegseth is lashing out at state officials in Minnesota.
Hegseth’s apparent desire to get involved in the Minnesota debacle is dangerous not only to the lives of innocent Americans, but to American democracy itself. The military should not be involved in domestic policing. Cops and border agents and soldiers are different from one another, and they are kept separate in a democracy for good reason. And most important, the Pentagon’s top official should not use his office to identify elected leaders who disagree with the president as enemies who will destroy the nation.
Pete Hegseth has one of the most important jobs on the planet, and it carries a world of obligations to the soldiers of the United States, and to the American people. For now, he might consider adding another task to his many duties, one that would be of immense help to the nation and to the armed forces: He should shut up.
Pete Hegseth Should Stay Out of Minneapolis
By inserting himself into the situation in Minnesota, the secretary of defense is only making things worse.The Trump administration has once again immersed the United States in a crisis. The officers who are supposed to be protecting America’s borders have again been unleashed on an American city—this time, Minneapolis. The authorities in Minnesota want the Border Patrol and ICE forces to leave; the U.S. government’s response has been to continue to allow them to operate without any limits. These agents are now behaving like a roving mob, a riot squad in balaclavas desperately in search of a riot—and for the second time in 17 days, they have killed one of the American citizens protesting their police-state behavior.
Today’s victim was a 37-year-old ICU nurse named Alex Pretti, shot multiple times while lying on the ground after taking a beating from government agents.
As if to prove that they can always make a terrible situation worse, Trump-administration officials have made a series of statements; some of them are tasteless and immature, while others challenge the intelligence of anyone who has viewed the multiple videos of the killing. Secretary of Homeland Security Kristi Noem claimed that the victim walked up to the agents with the intent to slay several of them. White House Deputy Chief of Staff Stephen Miller posted on X that an “assassin tried to murder federal agents.” Neither of these seems to correspond with the video evidence.
Minneapolis police say Pretti had a firearms permit, and that open carry is legal in the state for permit holders. Video of the incident shows him holding a phone, not a gun. Officers do not seem to have realized he was armed until after they pinned him to the ground, and the video does not show them opening fire until after they have taken away his pistol.
The situation looks bad from every angle, which is probably why administration figures are spinning this moment as hard as possible. But what on earth is the self-styled secretary of war, Pete Hegseth, talking about—and why is he talking at all?
Late this afternoon, Hegseth posted this from his personal account on X:
What, exactly, does this mean? (A Pentagon spokesperson said the department had “nothing to provide beyond the Secretary’s tweet.”) The leader of the U.S. military is telling the agents of another government department—one of whom is on video pumping at least five bullets into a man who’d already been shot and was lying on his face—that “we have your back.” Does Hegseth intend to protect these men if they are charged by city or state authorities? Or is he itching to get the U.S. military into the streets, to back up ICE’s undertrained civilians with professional soldiers and heavier hardware?
Worse, the secretary seems to be implying that the government of Minnesota is an enemy of the United States. “ICE > MN” might mean that ICE is … better than Minnesota? Sovereign over Minnesota? Whatever the intent of this formulation, Hegseth thinks ICE is “saving the country,” apparently from the elected leaders of Minnesota and the “lunatics” in the street. (These “lunatics” are also known as “American citizens.”)
Hegseth has neither the legal authority nor the right—and certainly not the moral standing—to make such claims. Statements by incompetent appointees like Noem are bad enough, but Hegseth committing the United States military to “have the backs” of men who shot to death a citizen lying in the street, before the shooting has even been investigated, is beyond irresponsible. Unfortunately, such recklessness is to be expected from a man, and an administration, that treats any city, state, or government agency not controlled by Trump loyalists as an enemy.
Perhaps Hegseth was only showing off. He is an immature and undisciplined man, and he may be trying to prove that he, too, can say something terrible in the wake of a shocking moment of violence. But the secretary of defense is supposed to be the steward of the American military. He is supposed to keep the armed forces out of all but the most dire civil disturbances; instead, Hegseth is trying to involve them in a lawless mess created by another government department. He is supposed to keep the military professional, ready, and apolitical; instead, Hegseth has identified a bunch of rogue civilians as brothers-in-arms, and promised to protect them. He is supposed to keep the American military ready to fight foreign enemies; instead, Hegseth is lashing out at state officials in Minnesota.
Hegseth’s apparent desire to get involved in the Minnesota debacle is dangerous not only to the lives of innocent Americans, but to American democracy itself. The military should not be involved in domestic policing. Cops and border agents and soldiers are different from one another, and they are kept separate in a democracy for good reason. And most important, the Pentagon’s top official should not use his office to identify elected leaders who disagree with the president as enemies who will destroy the nation.
Pete Hegseth has one of the most important jobs on the planet, and it carries a world of obligations to the soldiers of the United States, and to the American people. For now, he might consider adding another task to his many duties, one that would be of immense help to the nation and to the armed forces: He should shut up.
I have nothing bad to say about the man.
I'm sure he did a lot of good for a lot of people - especially in his line of work.
Godspeed Alex Pretti......
I'm sure he did a lot of good for a lot of people - especially in his line of work.
Godspeed Alex Pretti......
What's really frustrating is that these ICE agents that have murdered people will not be held accountable.
Ok, so now the sequence of events appears to be:
1. One agent retrieves Pretti's weapon.
2. Another agent pulls out his sidearm, presses it against Pretti's back, and pulls the trigger.
3. Agents scatter. 2-3 more rounds are fired.
4. There is a pause, and 7 more rounds are fired.
Note--A friend of mine who is a LEO in Pittsburgh says that he strongly discourages trainees from firing at a suspect who is surrounded by other LEOs--firing into a scrum, basically. However, if you must do it, make it a contact shot to reduce the chances of hitting someone else.
Of course, he also says that If you can't handle a fight with 7 people on your side, you should quit.
Yeah, after seeing all the videos this appears to be a homicide. While many of us have expressed frustration at the seemingly low rate of prosecution for unjustified police shootings, my gut tells me there’s even less chance anything happens here…
Hope I’m wrong (again).
pete hegseth is a roided up meathead moron
BASH: You said he wanted to 'massacre law enforcement.' What evidence do you have that he wanted to 'massacre law enforcement'? It doesn't look like that
BOVINO: I believe the fantastic training that our law enforcement partners have prevented any specific, ahhh, shootings of law enforcement. So good job by our law enforcement in taking him down before he was able to do that
This Trump clown is proud of what happened yesterday. How can anyone continue to support ICE and/or the Border Patrol under its current leadership?
I am going to church today to see my granddaughter serve for the 1st time as an acolyte. I also intend to pray:
- For the family of Mr. Pretti in their grief and loss.
- For the ICE agents directly involved in the shooting. At best it appears that they reacted strongly and probably wrongly in this matter.
- For the politicians, local and national, who are making statements before they clearly understand what transpired and why and are seemingly using this situation for their personal ambitions rather than to be instruments of peace and clarity.
- For the law enforcement personnel who are caught up in an escalating situation seemingly beyond their ability to control.
- For the immigrants, legal and otherwise, who now feel threatened beyond measure. Can we imagine how they must feel, whether they live in Minneapolis or Charleston, SC?
- For our country, divided with the deepest societal rift I have seen since the Civil Rights days.
- For our young people and children who are trying to mature in a day of such division and hostilities.
- For leaders to step forward and lead us beyond political divisions and social hostilities into peace.
Even worse is that he's saying all this crap while cosplaying Gestapo .
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Federal Agent Reportedly Said ‘Boo Hoo’ After Minneapolis Man Was Shot Dead, Mayor Asks ‘How Many More Americans Need to Die?’
A federal agent reportedly mocked protesters who were speaking out against the fatal shooting of a Minneapolis man, telling them, ‘Boo hoo.’ Police Chief Brian O'Hara said the person shot dead was ‘a 37-year-old white male who is a Minneapolis resident.’
macho cosplay seems to be at the center of a lot of what we are seeing from so-called conservative christians these days
I just can't.
www.lawdork.com
A lot of additional details and quote from witnesses are included.
The ICE killing of Alex Pretti, the second in Minneapolis, prompts quick legal responses
After ICE agents killed the nurse on Saturday, lawyers took quick action in cases challenging the Trump administration's increasingly deadly efforts.
www.lawdork.com
A lot of additional details and quote from witnesses are included.
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