Bama (finally) Fires OL Coach Kapilovic

[Bamabuzzard]

I agree.

The talk about Jones from Missouri is about a month old now. He may be the guy, but he's the very first one I heard mentioned.

I wonder if he's going to go to the pro model if he might be thinking about hiring out of the NFL?

I was thinking that as well. He maybe dipping into the NFL for OL coaches.

 

[Padreruf]

I was thinking that as well. He maybe dipping into the NFL for OL coaches.

Did you all see that OSU hired Arthur Smith out of the NFL to be their offensive coordinator? I'll bet he did not come cheap...

I hope that whomever CKD brings in has both the brains to retool our OL and the brawn/toughness to put some fire in them -- and through them our entire offense. It's hard to play @ 110% if you are unsure about what you are doing.

 

[AlexanderFan]

So let me get this straight. CKD fires Kap, but now it's viewed by some as having taken too long.

There's talk about hiring 2 OL coaches, but some question why didn't he do that sooner, if it's innovative or an NFL model.

Some say he won't hire P4 assistants, but some say he can't.

It seems no matter what the man does, it's not good enough for some of you!

I’ve said this a dozen times, nothing he can do will be right because he’s not Nick Saban.

 

[BamaMoon]

It's hard to play @ 110% if you are unsure about what you are doing.

That's a very under-rated, important point!

Confusion leads to hesitancy and hesitancy leads to mediocrity even for the best players.

It seemed we were confused and, thus, slow and ineffective all year long along the OL!

 

[Bamabuzzard]

Did you all see that OSU hired Arthur Smith out of the NFL to be their offensive coordinator? I'll bet he did not come cheap...

I hope that whomever CKD brings in has both the brains to retool our OL and the brawn/toughness to put some fire in them -- and through them our entire offense. It's hard to play @ 110% if you are unsure about what you are doing.

Yeah, I'm sure it cost them a pretty penny to get him. With today's cfb landscape youre asking an NFL guy whose not used to having to constantly recruit your players to now having to having to play car salesman.

 

[AlexanderFan]

Yeah, I'm sure it cost them a pretty penny to get him. With today's cfb landscape youre asking an NFL guy whose not used to having to constantly recruit your players to now having to having to play car salesman.

Losing Hartline SHOULD be a net negative regardless of the hire.

 

[Bamabuzzard]

Losing Hartline SHOULD be a net negative regardless of the hire.

I agree. Hartline has played a major role in their success and his name has been a hot name for coaching hires for years.

 

[BamaMoon]

Losing Hartline SHOULD be a net negative regardless of the hire.

We may find out he's been TOSU's secret sauce all along. They've recruited and developed WRs better than anybody.

 

[bamaga]

Did you all see that OSU hired Arthur Smith out of the NFL to be their offensive coordinator? I'll bet he did not come cheap...

I hope that whomever CKD brings in has both the brains to retool our OL and the brawn/toughness to put some fire in them -- and through them our entire offense. It's hard to play @ 110% if you are unsure about what you are doing.

Two things, first on the cheap thing , Does Arthur Smith need the money? Or did Fred cut him out of the will?
Second , with NFL coordinators on both sides of the ball, OSU is combining that NFL experience with a big checkbook to recruit players. Two former NFL head coaches as OC and DC. Ryan Day better win, his replacement may be in the building.

 

[bamaga]

So let me get this straight. CKD fires Kap, but now it's viewed by some as having taken too long.

There's talk about hiring 2 OL coaches, but some question why didn't he do that sooner, if it's innovative or an NFL model.

Some say he won't hire P4 assistants, but some say he can't.

It seems no matter what the man does, it's not good enough for some of you!

I don’t think anyone said hiring G5 coaches is good or bad, just that his track record is non P4 coaches.

That said, and since you brought it up. I will say IMO, we need more Big program(NFL or P4) coaches in the football building. They have a different perspective on a big time program.

 

[Bamabuzzard]

I don’t think anyone said hiring G5 coaches is good or bad, just that his track record is non P4 coaches.

That said, and since you bring it up. I will say IMO, we need more Big program(NFL or P4) coaches in the football building. They have a different perspective on a big time program.

I agree with this. Coaches from big P4 programs know what it takes to compete on that level. Not saying G5 coaches dont either. But you cant replace experience and having an entire coaching staff full of of G5 coaches probably isn't the best ratio to have. Both can bring value with their experiences.

 

[editder]

I’ve said this a dozen times, nothing he can do will be right because he’s not Nick Saban.

So if he won 6 NCs for us it wouldn’t be right because he’s not Nick Saban?

If he really wanted to flummox us, he could change his name to “Nick Saban.”

I didn’t even like Nick Saban because he was Nick Saban. I liked him because he gave us 6 NCs. CKD doesn’t need to do that much. Just show us some sustained results for starters.

He’s made some changes, which is cause for guarded optimism. But he hasn’t done anything to earn much more than that. He’ll have to wait until we’ve had a chance to see how it pans out.

If his changes work and he continues to build on the success and field teams worthy of Alabama (i.e, NC contenders/winners), he will have earned our trust and you’ll see everyone fall in line.

 

[bamaga]

I’ve said this a dozen times, nothing he can do will be right because he’s not Nick Saban.

That’s not true, I’m one of the ones he brings up in his post and I have almost always supported CKD. Unless of course you want me to put on DeBoer cheer pants and blindly agree with everything he does? I didn’t do that with Saban.

 

[AlexanderFan]

So if he won 6 NCs for us it wouldn’t be right because he’s not Nick Saban?

If he really wanted to flummox us, he could change his name to “Nick Saban.”

I didn’t even like Nick Saban because he was Nick Saban. I liked him because he gave us 6 NCs. CKD doesn’t need to do that much. Just show us some sustained results for starters.

He’s made some changes, which is cause for guarded optimism. But he hasn’t done anything to earn much more than that. He’ll have to wait until we’ve had a chance to see how it pans out.

If his changes work and he continues to build on the success and field teams worthy of Alabama (i.e, NC contenders/winners), he will have earned our trust and you’ll see everyone fall in line.

Here’s a prime example of what I’m talking about, 20 wins in two years, an SEC championship appearance, a playoff win, but it’s how he’s losing that’s talked about. Saban was skull drug by Dabo and maybe it’s Mabelline and all people did on here was talk about sign stealing and blame Tua, pick plays are the blame for the other loss. Dabo, the guy most here think couldn’t coach his way out of a wet paper bag.

Here’s another one for you: quarterback usage. You know who relied heavily on quarterback play to have what success he had his last few years? Nick Saban owes his last few seasons worth of wins to Bryce Young and Jalen Milroe. From 2021 on, quarterback play at Alabama covered up the decay of the program. Bryce Young did an excellent job, Milroe not so much. Now it’s a knock on DeBoer that his system needs exceptional quarterback play, even though it’s exceptional quarterback play that beats elite defenses.

You guys aren’t waiting to see if it pans out, you’re just biding your time to find something else to whine about.

 

[Cruloc]

I’ve said this a dozen times, nothing he can do will be right because he’s not Nick Saban.

Has nothing to do with him not being Saban. This isn't about Saban anymore.

Showing up prepared to ball games and not getting blown out and mauled repeatedly is what this about.

DeBoer has 8 losses. 6 of which his team looked unprepared and down right pitiful.

I don't care who you are, that's a problem.

I'm curious to see if DeBoer can morph or evolve his system and schemes. Good coaches adjust, bad coaches stick to their guns and go down with the ship.

Saban was blown out by Clemson in the national title game.....getting blown out was not a regular occurrence under Saban.

I've said it before....we had issues bubbling to the surface the last couple or three years of Saban's time. Hopefully that's now gone.

 

[Evil Crimson Dragon]

Here’s a prime example of what I’m talking about, 20 wins in two years, an SEC championship appearance, a playoff win, but it’s how he’s losing that’s talked about. Saban was skull drug by Dabo and maybe it’s Mabelline and all people did on here was talk about sign stealing and blame Tua, pick plays are the blame for the other loss. Dabo, the guy most here think couldn’t coach his way out of a wet paper bag.

Here’s another one for you: quarterback usage. You know who relied heavily on quarterback play to have what success he had his last few years? Nick Saban owes his last few seasons worth of wins to Bryce Young and Jalen Milroe. From 2021 on, quarterback play at Alabama covered up the decay of the program. Bryce Young did an excellent job, Milroe not so much. Now it’s a knock on DeBoer that his system needs exceptional quarterback play, even though it’s exceptional quarterback play that beats elite defenses.

You guys aren’t waiting to see if it pans out, you’re just biding your time to find something else to whine about.

No, actually pulling for the guy to succeed and win big. Sure, the losses and blowouts stink, but I remember Saban at LSU getting smoked by Dennis Franchione, of all people! I don't think there are many coaches out there who haven't suffered bad losses at some time in their career.......comes with the territory. But, there are changes that needed to be made and it looks as though he is making them,............so we will give him time and hope they are successful..........but I also want the team to look as though they came to play and are completely ready. I don't think that's too much to ask as a fan

 

[AlexanderFan]

Has nothing to do with him not being Saban. This isn't about Saban anymore.

Showing up prepared to ball games and not getting blown out and mauled repeatedly is what this about.

DeBoer has 8 losses. 6 of which his team looked unprepared and down right pitiful.

I don't care who you are, that's a problem.

I'm curious to see if DeBoer can morph or evolve his system and schemes. Good coaches adjust, bad coaches stick to their guns and go down with the ship.

Saban was blown out by Clemson in the national title game.....getting blown out was not a regular occurrence under Saban.

I've said it before....we had issues bubbling to the surface the last couple or three years of Saban's time. Hopefully that's now gone.

Exceptional quarterback play kept Saban from getting blown out, unless you’re forgetting the Golding years.

How many blowouts do you think would’ve happened if you replaced Bryce Young with Jalen Milroe? Tyler Buchner? Ty Simpson? Line couldn’t block, defense couldn’t stop anyone, Bryce would keep the scoring pace.

Nobody said anything about Saban, only Golding. (Credit to Crimson Audio for keeping his eye on the HMIC in this case. )

 

[gtgilbert]

Exceptional quarterback play kept Saban from getting blown out, unless you’re forgetting the Golding years.

How many blowouts do you think would’ve happened if you replaced Bryce Young with Jalen Milroe? Tyler Buchner? Ty Simpson? Line couldn’t block, defense couldn’t stop anyone, Bryce would keep the scoring pace.

Nobody said anything about Saban, only Golding. (Credit to Crimson Audio for keeping his eye on the HMIC in this case. )

for the record, I was an equal oppty critic back then. Not only Golding, but also BOB, and that Saban needed to do something to address both.

 

[AlexanderFan]

for the record, I was an equal oppty critic back then. Not only Golding, but also BOB, and that Saban needed to do something to address both.

There is a short, but prestigious, list of posters who held Saban accountable.

Most just worshipped the altar, and still do.

 

[KrAzY3]

on the USC 247 site. mods are saying Adrian Klemm, who was an analyst at USC last year, is a possibility for Alabama's offensive line coach.

Adrian Klemm - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

"Klemm served as offensive line coach, run game coordinator, and associate head coach under Oregon Ducks head coach Dan Lanning. Klemm's tenure was highly successful, with the Ducks finishing with a 10–3 record in the 2022 season. The offensive line led the FBS in sacks allowed with only five, and the Ducks rushing game was rated the twelfth best."

I tried figuring out this guy's resume, why he's out of work for years at a time and what not. Then I got to this:
His last steady job was UCLA in 2016. They averaged 2.9 per rush. Second worst rushing offense in college football. Bad enough apparently to put him out of work for years.

I don't know the deal, I don't understand why he spends one year at a job then takes a year off, then ends up as an analyst but the last time he held a job for an extended period of time it ended rather horribly and then he didn't even have a job for a couple years. I don't know his upside, but that's a scary downside.

There's something going on with him, if I go back he had a stretch at UCLA where his team performed fine. But, his resume starts off normal and just gets really weird. Since then he hasn't been an OL coach for longer than a year at a time. That's a giant red flag.

The most my quick search would reveal is this: "It was rumoured that Klemm's poor relationship with Steelers offensive coordinator Matt Canada caused head coach Mike Tomlin to agree to release Klemm in the knowledge that Klemm would not have continued in his role in the following year."

Just... something going on there, you hold the Steelers OL job one year, then the Oregon OL job one year, then the Patriots OL job one year then you find yourself out of work for a year, then an analyst. This is not what you normally look for in a good resume.

Edit: Alright this is not substantiated but here's what another quick thing dig up:
"He left Pittsburgh with only two games left in the regular season. While he had already accepted a job at Oregon, Mike Tomlin released him early to "eliminate distractions."

"His time at UCLA (2012–2016) was his longest coaching stint, but it was also the most controversial:

• NCAA Suspension: He was suspended in 2015 for NCAA rules violations related to "unpermitted benefits" for recruits.
• Player Lawsuits: He was named in lawsuits by former players regarding the mishandling of injuries, though he was eventually dismissed from those suits in 2021."

His most recent stint with the New England Patriots was particularly rocky. He took a leave of absence in November 2023 due to what was described as a "serious medical issue."

However, behind the scenes, reports from the Boston Herald indicated significant friction. He reportedly had a "loud, heated confrontation" with Director of Player Personnel Matt Groh early in the season over the lack of talent on the offensive line. He did not return to the team in 2024."

So... seems like the kind of hire Saban might make or stash, but also seems like the kind of guy you have to be able to manage and keep a close eye on.

He has bagged some top recruits, probably why he's a consideration (Kap was a good recruiter). Of course he did it by breaking the rules apparently. Seems like he doesn't always get along well with others, but then again may be he'll bring some fire to the locker room.

Heck, I don't know anymore, seems extremely high risk/high reward. Could blow up in Alabama's face, could be what they need.