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Epstein Files -- Be Careful What You Demand

selmaborntidefan said:
I’m OK with living in a world where emails cost her the presidency and one where emails cost Trump the presidency. Plus, rarely are emails actual evidence but instead .2 questions that can be asked to ascertain facts and evidence.
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It wasn't the actual emails. It was the fact that someone that high up in the political realm was stupid enough to set up her own email server and then use it for government business. A six year old can successfully hack a private email server. When a baby boomer tries to use technology to gain an advantage it is almost comical how deluded their thinking is. I don't care how smart you are, the people that grew up with the technology are going to beat you at it all the time.

Yes, and before anyone jumps in with the whataboutism I realize that Trump has done and continues to do even stupider things but this post is about Hillary, not anyone else.
 
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75thru79 said:
It wasn't the actual emails. It was the fact that someone that high up in the political realm was stupid enough to set up her own email server and then use it for government business. A six year old can successfully hack a private email server. When a baby boomer tries to use technology to gain an advantage it is almost comical how deluded their thinking is. I don't care how smart you are, the people that grew up with the technology are going to beat you at it all the time.

Yes, and before anyone jumps in with the whataboutism I realize that Trump has done and continues to do even stupider things but this post is about Hillary, not anyone else.
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Hillary's emails were a legitimate issue in that they reinforced the simple fact she and her husband both REPEATEDLY did things that other (smarter) politicians would have avoided doing like the plague - and then repeatedly doubled down on the "I did nothing illegal" as if that alone constitutes an acceptable standard.

Now having said that, the last decade has shown that apparently you can get away with anything, including criminal activity, rape, and fomenting an attempt to overthrow a democratic election and there are no real consequences.

I used to think the Clinton tactic of "do something/refuse to hand anything over/attack the investigator/reveal whatever" was as bad as it could get. The mere fact Trump makes me miss BILL Clinton as President (a man I loathe to this day) ought to tell you how low the bar has gotten.


But again....the GOP is creating a political world in which they going to have to live when this Felonious Slimeball is gone, whether through end of term or death.
 
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Rep. Thomas Massie says he’s ready to use the nuclear option if the DOJ refuses to unredact the names of Epstein’s clients.

He warns he will simply start reading Epstein’s client names publicly if Pam Bondi’s Department of Justice does not release them.

“If the victims want to give them to me, I’ve expressed that I’m willing to do that.”
 
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If Trump is cleared of wrongdoing by the Epstein files, then fine. I would be very curious why they didn't produce these files until now, but whatever. Fine.

It does go against the testimony of some of the victims. So, maybe both things can be true. He participated in some capacity, but spilled the beans, hoping to save his own butt.


No matter what, though, there are still plenty of wealthy jerks from all over the world who were definitely involved and need to pay for their crimes. Would I love to see Trump taken down for this if he were involved, of course. This has never been about only getting Trump. I want everyone involved to pay.
 
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If Trump is cleared of wrongdoing by the Epstein files, then fine. I would be very curious why they didn't produce these files until now, but whatever. Fine.

It does go against the testimony of some of the victims. So, maybe both things can be true. He participated in some capacity, but spilled the beans, hoping to save his own butt.


No matter what, though, there are still plenty of wealthy jerks from all over the world who were definitely involved and need to pay for their crimes. Would I love to see Trump taken down for this if he were involved, of course. This has never been about only getting Trump. I want everyone involved to pay.
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Sounds to me like trump turning on his friend after they had a falling out.
 
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selmaborntidefan said:
Hillary's emails were a legitimate issue in that they reinforced the simple fact she and her husband both REPEATEDLY did things that other (smarter) politicians would have avoided doing like the plague - and then repeatedly doubled down on the "I did nothing illegal" as if that alone constitutes an acceptable standard.

Now having said that, the last decade has shown that apparently you can get away with anything, including criminal activity, rape, and fomenting an attempt to overthrow a democratic election and there are no real consequences.

I used to think the Clinton tactic of "do something/refuse to hand anything over/attack the investigator/reveal whatever" was as bad as it could get. The mere fact Trump makes me miss BILL Clinton as President (a man I loathe to this day) ought to tell you how low the bar has gotten.


But again....the GOP is creating a political world in which they going to have to live when this Felonious Slimeball is gone, whether through end of term or death.
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I have always said that it would be cool to have a beer with Clinton and George Bush. I have problems with both of them, but they seem to be good-natured sort who would probably good for a lot of laughs.

I can't imagine anyone saying anything close to that about Orange Turd.
 
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abcnews.com

Ex-police chief says Trump told him 'thank goodness you're stopping' Epstein in 2000s

Former Palm Beach police chief Michael Reiter was a central figure in the first law enforcement probe of Epstein in Florida.
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Interesting....so Trump knew more than he has been letting on. I guess he would have to if he really was an "informant" as some have insisted. And then there's this...

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Trump can't keep his lies/alibis/cover-ups straight. As Columbo taught me, it's always your alibi that hangs you.
 
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Pam Blondi in her congressional hearings yesterday showed the true face of trump derangement syndrome, which is her (and others) blind devotion to anything trump wants. Her testimony was cringe worthy. At one point when she was asked about helping the rape victims she actually said what we should be talking about is the Dow hiting record highs. :oops:
 
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