The Decline of the DNC IV

The "reasons" the left gives as to why the SAVE Act is going to make it hard for "disaffected voters" to make their voice heard are a joke. To hear them talk it is darn near impossible for a black or brown person to obtain a picture ID (forgetting that they all pretty much have them already for drinking, applying for SNAP benefits, going to the doctor, etc. If the argument is that someone can't afford the ID then make them free (IMO they should be free to obtain already). For that little teensie tiny percent of the population that can't make it to the polls you can have absentee ballots, as long as they are properly controlled. There is absolutely no reason not to have secure elections unless you want to cheat.

I'll tell you what, let's test this thesis.


Let a Republican propose the following bill:
- mandatory ID to vote
- give them a deadline of August 31, 2027
- the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT will pay for it
- it cannot be invoked until everyone has had opportunity (e.g. computer issues might delay this until 2032)
- they will be issued with START DATES when teens get their licenses or register for Selective Service (so if you get your license at 16, you are also issued your voter ID that has an eligibility to vote date on your 18th birthday
- they never expire. EVER.

I just solved the entire problem.


But no Republican is ever going to do this.
He'd get enough Democrats on board to get this passed, but that's what the GOP fears in this.

Once that happened, they'd never be able to whine about election fraud again - and that, of course, would mean they got rejected.
 
Unless TG and FBI are honestly looking for international shenanigans, this is simply the big baby-in-cheif crying again about losing GA. Waaaaah!

A week after FBI agents seized Fulton County’s 2020 ballots as part of a criminal probe, a judge has dismissed most of the claims in a long-running lawsuit that sought the same election records.

He also has ordered the plaintiffs to pay some of the county’s attorney fees.


Remember, folks, this was going to help blow the lid of Venezuela, and they couldn't even blow the lid off of Valdosta.



And the usual suspects will now inform all of us how this is all part of the cover-up. The goalposts will continue to move until after all the doors are opened and it becomes, "Well, they destroyed the evidence!"
 
A week after FBI agents seized Fulton County’s 2020 ballots as part of a criminal probe, a judge has dismissed most of the claims in a long-running lawsuit that sought the same election records.

He also has ordered the plaintiffs to pay some of the county’s attorney fees.


Remember, folks, this was going to help blow the lid of Venezuela, and they couldn't even blow the lid off of Valdosta.



And the usual suspects will now inform all of us how this is all part of the cover-up. The goalposts will continue to move until after all the doors are opened and it becomes, "Well, they destroyed the evidence!"
If they don’t like the result, they’ll always cry foul. Their candidate loses, it has to be cheating. The SAVE Act won’t matter if a Democrat still wins - there must be fraud elsewhere. The legal system is crooked if they don’t like the verdict. And it all flows down from the leader: Trump. They’ll follow that guy anywhere.
 
:ROFLMAO: Whare is this from? Who in the world thinks this is a winning ticket?

I’ve actually seen this argument made on Twitter lately by several - not democratic officeholders - but normally Dem voters with large followers. Today this picture got added.

There are a few groups, and this not just a Democratic Party thing, and they’re all fighting.

1) the Bernie group that keeps insisting Newsom would lose

2) the centrist group that thinks the two above would be a train wreck and wasted opportunity

3) the pragmatists that will vote for the nominee after the scrapping is over rather than a Republican

4) the “earn my vote” nitwits

5) the group of centrists repeatedly pointing out that Biden ran as a centrist, attempted to be a productive liberal and who blame the Bernie wing for destroying him.

I saw one yesterday that actually wants whoever the Dem is in 2028 to pack the court and then bring in AOC eight years up the line to ram through the Green New Deal.

Until AOC quits doing that “high school girl caught smoking in the bathroom” head bob while talking, she will remain a caricature. She’s also closing in on the 12 years we had left to save the planet, which will be a vulnerability in a general as well.

I have no idea who the Dems will nominate at this point, but unless the GOP signals a pivot away from Trumpist fascism I’ll wind up voting for the D anyway.
 
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For those who have not yet seen, she had her Sarah Palin moment yesterday when asked about US troops should China invade Taiwan. The stammering word salad of nothing punctuated by “ums” would have been hilarious if there wasn’t a vocal group of people insisting this 36-year-old needs to be the most powerful person on earth less than three years from now.

Ted Kennedy was more coherent in his interview with Roger Mudd.
 
If the dems nominate KH again they deserve to lose. She had her chance and blew it.


For those who don't know, Gavin Newsom was at the same Munich conference.

But because the press isn't infatuated with an old white guy - regardless of how bad Bartender Barbie looked - you probably have barely heard this at all.

But.....he was there!

And for the record, I think Gavin has some serious vulnerabilities as a candidate, but he isn't going viral for blathering like an idiot, either.
 
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I’ve actually seen this argument made on Twitter lately by several - not democratic officeholders - but normally Dem voters with large followers. Today this picture got added.

There are a few groups, and this not just a Democratic Party thing, and they’re all fighting.

1) the Bernie group that keeps insisting Newsom would lose

2) the centrist group that thinks the two above would be a train wreck and wasted opportunity

3) the pragmatists that will vote for the nominee after the scrapping is over rather than a Republican

4) the “earn my vote” nitwits

5) the group of centrists repeatedly pointing out that Biden ran as a centrist, attempted to be a productive liberal and who blame the Bernie wing for destroying him.

I saw one yesterday that actually wants whoever the Dem is in 2028 to pack the court and then bring in AOC eight years up the line to ram through the Green New Deal.

Until AOC quits doing that “high school girl caught smoking in the bathroom” head bob while talking, she will remain a caricature. She’s also closing in on the 12 years we had left to save the planet, which will be a vulnerability in a general as well.

I have no idea who the Dems will nominate at this point, but unless the GOP signals a pivot away from Trumpist fascism I’ll wind up voting for the D anyway.
I keep banging on this drum but it appears to me that if the Dems would nominate a centrist who would easily win back a majority of independents it would be a landslide election. The far left could stay home or vote for JD Vance.
 
I keep banging on this drum but it appears to me that if the Dems would nominate a centrist who would easily win back a majority of independents it would be a landslide election. The far left could stay home or vote for JD Vance.

I don't think a landslide is possible any longer. In the technical sense, we haven't "really" seen one since 1988, and Richard Nixon denied that was a landslide when he pointed out Bush got 9 million fewer votes than Reagan did in 1984. Because they've all gotten more strategic in which states they will campaign - Trump's 2016 plan was almost a mirror image of Clinton's 1992 plan as far as resources in states - it's much more difficult for any candidate to run up the electoral vote count because they'll play defense to make sure they keep their 330-360 EVs rather than take a high roll risk on winning 400. Even candidates with a huge lead - like Clinton in 1996 - keep it close to the vest and play to not lose rather than to win big.

As far as the Democratic nominees, the party right now is going through a similar process to the one that marked most of their nominations between 1972 and 1988, where a loud, vocal group of Hard Left liberals won't allow a vote some Democrat made 20 years ago to be left in the past. The purity posse - and let's be clear, both parties have this - uses social media and in a matter of minutes can get bad news about a vote 20 years ago on something out there, demand the apology that will never appease them, and then use the apology to say "even that person admitted they were wrong" to say "you can't trust him/her."

Have you seen what's going on in Texas right now in the Senate race? The Democrats are being handed at least a POSSIBILITY of winning a Senate seat they have no business carrying because angry Trumper Ken Paxton (the indicted adultery committing sleazeball) is in the race to avenge Trump against John Cornyn, who has been there since 2002. And Paxton is about as vulnerable a Republican as the Democrats could ever hope to get in a Senate race. Enter Jasmine Crockett, the whiny rep with the fake "from the hood" accent, who threw the race against James Talarico into a quandary by claiming he had called the last nominee (Colin Allred - a black former NFL player who lost to Cruz) "mediocre." Of course with race there's always an exaggeration, so she makes it more extreme and now Allred is showing more anger and fire and passion demanding his apology than he did campaigning against Ted Cruz. Talarico admits saying that Allred was mediocre on the campaign trail, but this IS Race Bait Crockett we're talking about. And she would rather LOSE as the nominee than WIN the seat with Talarico, who is a seminary student who just might be able to bring back some of the religious voters to the Dem party if he's lucky enough to face Paxton.

But there are a series of candidates - AOC, Jasmine Crockett, Bernie Sanders, several of the Chicago local races I'm observing up here - who would rather THE OPPOSITION WIN the general election than one of their kindred souls beat them for the nomination.

That doesn't sound any different than Trumpism electoral politics to me.


Here's the thing: I think the rank and file Democrats ARE pragmatic enough to say, "Look, better we nominate and elect another Carter and Clinton than nominate a ticket of AOC/Mamdani and lose 35 states."

They'd BETTER be pragmatic.

AGES OF SCOTUS JUSTICES IN 2028:
Clarence Thomas - 80
Samuel Alito - 78
Sonia Sotomayor - 74 and with health issues known
John Roberts - 73

A center-left candidate could appoint between 2 and 4 (maybe more) justices between 2029 and 2037.

Nobody should be pretending the justices appointed by JD Vance are the same as those that would be appointed by any Democrat.
 
By the way, they're working at making their problem worse:


"AOC is so popular, she's great, she'd wipe the floor with Vance!"

The last member of the House of Representatives who went straight from the House to the White House was James Garfield, who was elected in 1880. NOBODY - including the Senate - takes the House seriously. Go look at the her district - for all of her popularity, she is (on the whole) GETTING A LOWER PERCENTAGE OF THE VOTE than the guy she beat, Joe Crowley.

She's popular in a district that would elect ANY Democrat with 68% of the vote (which was her total in 2024; she's gone from 78 to 74 to 72 to 68 in her elections). And her district has been the same since 2013.

Accusing Israel of genocide WHILE IN GERMANY would be grounds for a press pack attack if AOC was a Republican. But she did it.
 
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I don't think a landslide is possible any longer. In the technical sense, we haven't "really" seen one since 1988, and Richard Nixon denied that was a landslide when he pointed out Bush got 9 million fewer votes than Reagan did in 1984. Because they've all gotten more strategic in which states they will campaign - Trump's 2016 plan was almost a mirror image of Clinton's 1992 plan as far as resources in states - it's much more difficult for any candidate to run up the electoral vote count because they'll play defense to make sure they keep their 330-360 EVs rather than take a high roll risk on winning 400. Even candidates with a huge lead - like Clinton in 1996 - keep it close to the vest and play to not lose rather than to win big.

As far as the Democratic nominees, the party right now is going through a similar process to the one that marked most of their nominations between 1972 and 1988, where a loud, vocal group of Hard Left liberals won't allow a vote some Democrat made 20 years ago to be left in the past. The purity posse - and let's be clear, both parties have this - uses social media and in a matter of minutes can get bad news about a vote 20 years ago on something out there, demand the apology that will never appease them, and then use the apology to say "even that person admitted they were wrong" to say "you can't trust him/her."

Have you seen what's going on in Texas right now in the Senate race? The Democrats are being handed at least a POSSIBILITY of winning a Senate seat they have no business carrying because angry Trumper Ken Paxton (the indicted adultery committing sleazeball) is in the race to avenge Trump against John Cornyn, who has been there since 2002. And Paxton is about as vulnerable a Republican as the Democrats could ever hope to get in a Senate race. Enter Jasmine Crockett, the whiny rep with the fake "from the hood" accent, who threw the race against James Talarico into a quandary by claiming he had called the last nominee (Colin Allred - a black former NFL player who lost to Cruz) "mediocre." Of course with race there's always an exaggeration, so she makes it more extreme and now Allred is showing more anger and fire and passion demanding his apology than he did campaigning against Ted Cruz. Talarico admits saying that Allred was mediocre on the campaign trail, but this IS Race Bait Crockett we're talking about. And she would rather LOSE as the nominee than WIN the seat with Talarico, who is a seminary student who just might be able to bring back some of the religious voters to the Dem party if he's lucky enough to face Paxton.

But there are a series of candidates - AOC, Jasmine Crockett, Bernie Sanders, several of the Chicago local races I'm observing up here - who would rather THE OPPOSITION WIN the general election than one of their kindred souls beat them for the nomination.

That doesn't sound any different than Trumpism electoral politics to me.


Here's the thing: I think the rank and file Democrats ARE pragmatic enough to say, "Look, better we nominate and elect another Carter and Clinton than nominate a ticket of AOC/Mamdani and lose 35 states."

They'd BETTER be pragmatic.

AGES OF SCOTUS JUSTICES IN 2028:
Clarence Thomas - 80
Samuel Alito - 78
Sonia Sotomayor - 74 and with health issues known
John Roberts - 73

A center-left candidate could appoint between 2 and 4 (maybe more) justices between 2029 and 2037.

Nobody should be pretending the justices appointed by JD Vance are the same as those that would be appointed by any Democrat.
You make points that would be difficult to deny. Does the country elect a Mamdami type candidate, provided we have a fair election, then reverse course in the mid-terms to contain the liberal shift, as we did with Obama and likely will do with Trump to contain his right wing agenda?
 
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By the way, they're working at making their problem worse:


"AOC is so popular, she's great, she'd wipe the floor with Vance!"

The last member of the House of Representatives who went straight from the House to the White House was James Garfield, who was elected in 1880. NOBODY - including the Senate - takes the House seriously. Go look at the her district - for all of her popularity, she is (on the whole) GETTING A LOWER PERCENTAGE OF THE VOTE than the guy she beat, Joe Crowley.

She's popular in a district that would elect ANY Democrat with 68% of the vote (which was her total in 2024; she's gone from 78 to 74 to 72 to 68 in her elections). And her district has been the same since 2013.

Accusing Israel of genocide WHILE IN GERMANY would be grounds for a press pack attack if AOC was a Republican. But she did it.
AOC has no real chance at the nomination. Strong favorability within the progressive wing doesn’t translate into the broad coalition required to win a Democratic primary. The electorate that decides these contests is older, more moderate, and heavily influenced by electability concerns. She’s undeniably influential and a compelling figure, but the path to becoming the nominee just isn’t there.
 
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You make points that would be difficult to deny. Does the country elect a Mamdami type candidate, provided we have a fair election, then reverse course in the mid-terms to contain the liberal shift, as we did with Obama and likely will do with Trump to contain his right wing agenda?

The journalists - whose job it is to know this stuff - never "get it" on Presidential elections. Here's a fine example.

When Bush crushed Dukakis in 1988, much was made of his winning 40 states and a landslide over yet another Northern liberal. Everything in that race got blamed from the fact there was peace and prosperity to Willie Horton to Dukakis' ideology.


But look closely:
Dukakis - 112 EVs

He lost the following states with their 1992 EV totals to the side:
- California by 3.5% - 54
- PA by 2.5% - 23
- Illinois by 2% - 22
- Maryland by 3% - 10

Flip just those states within the MOE of polling in four years, hold the Dukakis states, and you have 221 electoral votes when you only need 270 to win.

And now you can play, "let's attempt to add wins in Michigan, Ohio, and NJ - which by themselves would win the race!"

Plus you have some other routes to victory:
- NM by 5
- Montana by 5.5
- S Dakota by 6
- Vermont by 3.5
- Missouri by 4

(And remember, Tom Daschle is going to be on the ballot for Senate in SD in 1992, so that will help).

The same is true in 2012, though not a landslide. Romney lost by:
- 3% in Ohio (18)
- 5.4% in Colorado (9)
- 5.4% in New Hampshire (4)
- 4% in Virginia (13)
- 0.7% in Florida (29)
- 5.4% in PA (20)
- 5.8% in Iowa (6)

That's 99 EVs. Had he won only 64 of them - which winning FL, PA, and OH does - Romney is the President.

I don't think we're as susceptible to landslides as we were from 1920-88 because population shifts have made more base states that will vote for one of the party's no matter what. Obama would lose Florida today if he ran there.
 
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AOC has no real chance at the nomination. Strong favorability within the progressive wing doesn’t translate into the broad coalition required to win a Democratic primary. The electorate that decides these contests is older, more moderate, and heavily influenced by electability concerns. She’s undeniably influential and a compelling figure, but the path to becoming the nominee just isn’t there.

I don't dispute your points, but she DOES have the Trump route to being the nominee.

Corner the hard left libs while centrist candidates divide the "normal" primary voters.
Play the "any criticism of me is rooted in sexism and racism" tactic from page 1 of the liberal manual.
Blame the "centrists" for getting Biden elected, where he fell short, and he's to blame for now.
Promise student loan relief - again.

Trump won because Cruz and Rubio split the "normal" folks. Not impossible here.
Not likely, I'll admit.
 
The red flags are out.



AOC:
"doesn't mean we can...engage in acts of war just because the nation (note: Venezuela) is below the equator."

Fact check:
Venezuela is not below the equator. To say nothing of her sudden fake Spanish accent when she says the word "Venezuela."

She's dumber than Palin, folks.
DUMBER than Palin.

Venezuela equator.webp
 
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