Obama wants to make the internet a utility
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I've seen first hand what happens when ISPs don't follow the rules and I've had to deal with it at my job. These regulations have been in place for a while now. Things have been just fine. I think most people expect the internet to just work.
Have the regulations negativity impacted you in any way? I'm really curious your thoughts.
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They've definitely affected my industry - the fact that Comcast was stopped from throttling BitTorrent connections tells me that sometimes government interference isn't a good thing at all. When an ISP wishes to block providers of stolen IP from distributing that material, they should have that right, imo. A specific example, certainly, and I'm not one to think that unregulated industry will always benefit the consumer...
but there are legit uses of BitTorrent as well and comcast was blocking them too as they wanted their customers not to use things that competed with their business model.
This will likely not effect the consumer much other than limited choices. It will hurt startups who do not want to take on venture capital that would hijack their company and try to sell it off to a bigger company for a payday.
Almost like the winners have been decided and now they want to change the rules so they will stay the winners in this telecom space.
Almost like the winners have been decided and now they want to change the rules so they will stay the winners in this telecom space.
They would block the legal with the illegal stuff. This is universally not wanted from both parties constituents.
The legal system is the place to stop stolen IP not allowing the entire public infrastructure to be controlled by private entities who can and will wield this power to affect their profits and their competitor's losses.
it will definitely effect the consumer. Expect higher prices and far few choices. The ISP's will start ramping up costs on their competitors. Think Comcast is going to just allow Netflix to work great for their customers when they are trying to get you to sign up for Xfinity on Demand instead? Or Amazon Prime's streaming and movie rental? They are now perfectly allowed to either slow down or charge that competitor extra fee's for the privilege of connecting to Comcast customers, think Amazon, Netflix and others won't pass those extra fees on to us?
We are just going to have to disagree that it is the ISP's job to block or police things. They get paid to transit traffic. They should transit traffic.
ISP's are greedy bastards and will get it from both sides. A) they will charge the Netflix's of the world $ for traffic prioritization and access to customers B) and charge customers in the form of data cap overages because they won't exempt those services from the data usage count like their own service. So in the end you get to pay both Netflix and the ISP more money.
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it's not that they are greedy bastards it's that they are acting in their own self interest. Which is fine, it is exactly what a corporation should do. Maximize for their shareholders. I have no issues with that. My problem is that they have massive unfair advantages due to the nature of the infrastructure. This is a perfect case for why regulation, which can be awful, can also be good.
The only way to restrain the worst parts of capitalism is with regulation. Self-regulation does not work. This is like the taxation argument where it basically hinges on the hope that lowering taxes for the rich means reinvestment in America.
I don't hope for people's better angels. I bet on guardrails that prevent the mechanisms of capital from rolling over the middle class. I believe in taking a significant part of the hyper-wealthy's money and turning it into direct beneficence for the people of this country. I don't expect them to be compassionate patriots because I've seen them all sell us out for international opportunities at the drop of a dime. I expect to make them with laws or guns.
I don't hope for people's better angels. I bet on guardrails that prevent the mechanisms of capital from rolling over the middle class. I believe in taking a significant part of the hyper-wealthy's money and turning it into direct beneficence for the people of this country. I don't expect them to be compassionate patriots because I've seen them all sell us out for international opportunities at the drop of a dime. I expect to make them with laws or guns.
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The thing I love about conservatives - in generalities - is how this is a movement that lauds national zeal and patriotism but shields a group of people that couldn't give two ****s about this country's well-being. For this select class of people, this place only exists as a base of operation for their international capital schemes. They're slowly leaving us to rot which is what all this tax code and deregulation is really about...
Yeah that's what crazy girlfriends are for. Reading your mail and your browser cache.
Comcast already proved their intentions when they got into it with Netflix years ago.
Indeed, though I did read a paper a few years ago (by an independent, not Comcast) that showed that some 98% of the data being shared via BitTorrent was stolen intellectual property.
There are thousands of websites where one can openly share data - sites that actually try to curb IP theft.
Not really - if a server is outside the US boundaries there's little controlling the content. Yes, you can punish the end-user - if you can catch them - but cutting it off at the source is a better solution.
I guess you'd feel the same way about anything? Child porn, etc.?
Agree to disagree, then.
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