We were warned 30 years ago by NASA that global warming was ‘hitting us hard'

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Sink the big freighters shipping all the Chinese goods to the US. 15 ships match the pollution than all the cars in the world combined.

https://inews.co.uk/news/long-reads/cargo-container-shipping-carbon-pollution/

Maybe the tariffs will have a positive environmental impact if factories are relocated back to the US thus eliminating the need to ship as much.
 

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Sink the big freighters shipping all the Chinese goods to the US. 15 ships match the pollution than all the cars in the world combined.

https://inews.co.uk/news/long-reads/cargo-container-shipping-carbon-pollution/

Maybe the tariffs will have a positive environmental impact if factories are relocated back to the US thus eliminating the need to ship as much.
Tariffs or not most of those factories are likely never coming home.

There is context to those freighter ship numbers, and they are working to address it although with all this stuff changes need to come much more quickly than they are.

http://sparrowmarine.com/is-it-true...rld-produce-more-pollution-than-all-the-cars/

So yes, the 15 biggest ships produce more sulfur oxide pollutants than all the cars in the world, because they run on completely different fuels. A ship produces more carbon dioxide emission per mile and per gallon of fuel than a car. Ships in general, however, have the lowest emission levels of any other method of cargo transport , producing fewer emissions per ton of freight per mile than barges, trains or trucks.

To do a true comparison of ships and cars, the easiest method would be to look at a Pure Car and Truck Carrier, more affectionately known as a RO/RO (Roll On Roll Off). These ships carry thousands of cars to the U.S., Europe, Asia and elsewhere. A single RO/RO can carry an average of 8,000 cars, trucks and other equipment. Let’s take an average RO/RO shipping 8,000 cars from Hong Kong to Los Angeles. This is a distance of about 7,286 miles. We’ll use an average vehicle fuel economy for the cars of 25 miles per gallon, an average fuel economy of 42 Metric Tonnes per day and an average speed of 25 knots for the RO/RO. Using these rates it would take 2,331,520 gallons or 6507.3 Metric Tonnes of fuel to move those vehicles if you simply drove them (and this doesn’t include the cost and pollution created by 8,000 drivers). The RO/RO however only requires 510 Metric Tonnes of fuel to move all of those vehicles and itself from Hong Kong to Los Angeles. This means the ship only used 7.8% of the total fuel required by all those vehicles for the same distance. I’d say that’s a pretty good savings.


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The International Maritime Organization, a division of the United Nations which oversees and regulates all international shipping, is continuously pushing commercial shipping to improve and creating stricter environmental laws. Plans are place to reduce the sulfur content allowed in fuels to below the levels required in Emission Control Areas just last year (2014), but this is years away because current technology would make that cost prohibitive for many shipping companies. Currently, sulfur content standards for fuel used in international shipping is set at no more than 3.5%. In 2020, that will drop to no more than 0.5%. All of these regulations are contained in the Convention on Marine Pollution (MARPOL), Annex VI, which sets the regulations for Air Pollution in the Maritime Industry.

Some companies are part of the push, however, and the first two container ships powered exclusively by Liquefied Natural Gas were just launched. These ships will produce fewer emissions, of any compound, than any other vessel currently in service. The entire shipping industry is looking at conversions to natural gas or other fuels, and engine manufacturers are designing engines that can handle a variety of fuels.
 
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Tariffs or not most of those jobs factories likely never coming home.

There is context to those freighter ship numbers, and they are working to address it although with all this stuff changes need to come much more quickly than they are.

http://sparrowmarine.com/is-it-true...rld-produce-more-pollution-than-all-the-cars/
they began slow rolling most of the ships we use a few years back. added 4-5 days on our normal transit times in most cases

if i ship a 40ft container of apples (usually 1100 boxes or so) to the middle east, the carbon "footprint" of each case of apples is much less than if i had the same 1100 boxes trucked across the united states, and im pretty sure it is also less than the out and back trip (3-5 hours each way) from the port to the farm
 
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