1 point safety in the Fiesta Bowl last night?

[We_are_Bama]

I saw most of the game last night, but as luck would have it, I wasn't watching when the play occurred that resulted in an unheard of 1 point safety. So, how exactly did Oregon pull that off?

 

[Tide1986]

I saw most of the game last night, but as luck would have it, I wasn't watching when the play occurred that resulted in an unheard of 1 point safety. So, how exactly did Oregon pull that off?

KSU recovered a blocked extra point in the field of play, but the ball carrier then retreated into the end zone. The ball carrier then lateraled to another KSU player in the end zone and that player was subsequently tackled by Oregon while still in the end zone.

 

[DiamondDust]

I saw most of the game last night, but as luck would have it, I wasn't watching when the play occurred that resulted in an unheard of 1 point safety. So, how exactly did Oregon pull that off?

Kansas State blocked an extra point. When they recovered the ball and tried to advance it, they actually backed up into the endzone and Oregon tackled them there... resulting in the safety.

 

[Jon]

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[BamaDMD]

Extra point was blocked. Kansas st defender gets ball in inzone. Player try's to run it out of inzone only to get tackled before he does. Counts as 1 point instead of two point safty. Very rare.

 

[Tide1986]

Extra point was blocked. Kansas st defender gets ball in inzone. Player try's to run it out of inzone only to get tackled before he does. Counts as 1 point instead of two point safty. Very rare.

I think the key factor is that the blocked extra point was first recovered in the field of play (not the end zone).

 

[DiamondDust]

I think the key factor is that the blocked extra point was first recovered in the field of play (not the end zone).

Agreed... and the lateral back to another player in the endzone.

 

[BamaDMD]

I think the key factor is that the blocked extra point was first recovered in the field of play (not the end zone).

So would it have just been a dead ball if recovered in the end zone?

 

[Tide1986]

So would it have just been a dead ball if recovered in the end zone?

Yes, I believe that is correct.

 

[tidegrandpa]

I couldn't understand why Kansas did not have to kick back to Oregon if it was a 'safety'; Is there a special rule about a 1 point safety ? The ref's never explained.

 

[DiamondDust]

I couldn't understand why Kansas did not have to kick back to Oregon if it was a 'safety'; Is there a special rule about a 1 point safety ? The ref's never explained.

Yeah... since it's a "conversion safety" and not a regular safety... the kick-off rules are different.

 

[RTR91]

Yeah... since it's a "conversion safety" and not a regular safety... the kick-off rules are different.

Just like if a team returns a blocked PAT for 2 points. They still get the ball.

 

[tidegrandpa]

Thanks guys, beeen watching football 50 years, first one I've seen for 1 point.

 

[DiamondDust]

Thanks guys, beeen watching football 50 years, first one I've seen for 1 point.

Yeah... it's only happened like 4 or 5 times in history.

 

[theBIGyowski]

How rare was that 1 point safety?

@darrenrovell: Wynn bookmaker Johnny Avello just told me if he were to post a 1-point safety prop, he'd put it at 50,000 to 1.

 

[B1GTide]

Thanks guys, beeen watching football 50 years, first one I've seen for 1 point.

Same here - didn't even know it was possible, but it makes sense.

 

[JeffAtlanta]

Agreed... and the lateral back to another player in the endzone.

I don't think the lateral is really relevant though. IIRC, the KSU player who recovered the block in the field of play had already retreated back into the endzone. If he had been tackled in the endzone before he lateraled, it would have still been a safety.

Do college teams have to annouce whether they're going for 1 or 2 points? I wonder if it would have been a 2 point safety if Oregon had fumbled during a 2 point conversion and a KSU player recovered the ball in the field of play and was tackled after he retreated into the endzone.

 

[DiamondDust]

I don't think the lateral is really relevant though. IIRC, the KSU player who recovered the block in the field of play had already retreated back into the endzone. If he had been tackled in the endzone before he lateraled, it would have still been a safety.

Do college teams have to annouce whether they're going for 1 or 2 points? I wonder if it would have been a 2 point safety if Oregon had fumbled during a 2 point conversion and a KSU player recovered the ball in the field of play and was tackled after he retreated into the endzone.

A safety on a conversion, whether it's a kick or a 2 point, will result in 1 point... unless it's the team doing the conversion and somehow they get tackled in their own endzone... which would be a next to impossible scenario (Outside of saying the ball getting snapped too high and somehow going the length of the field into the other endzone).

 

[ccc2259]

How rare was that 1 point safety?

@darrenrovell: Wynn bookmaker Johnny Avello just told me if he were to post a 1-point safety prop, he'd put it at 50,000 to 1.

I've never seen or heard of it in 50+ years. Brad Nessler commented he had now covered two games where it occurred, but he didn't indicate what the earlier game was.

 

[RTR91]

I've never seen or heard of it in 50+ years. Brad Nessler commented he had now covered two games where it occurred, but he didn't indicate what the earlier game was.

Think he mentioned a Texas/Texas A&M game. Not sure the year, though.