Game Thread: #4 Ohio State at Minnesota (FOX)

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Apparently no one in existence understands or is able to accurately state what targeting is or is not on a consistent basis.
Which is the whole problem with this stupid rule. We've had Bama players tossed from games for less then that hit. The rule should be thrown out until they can figure out how to make it not a judgment call from idiot refs. It is called completely different between leagues, crews and even within the same game at times. The excuse for this rule is "player safety" but that hit literally knocked a player out but is deemed legal. Player safety my....
 
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Buckeye fans think that OSU is going to win the championship, Heisman, etc. every year. It is a disease, not hype. Tell me of someone outside of the OSU fan base hyping him.
I'll spot you. We have Alabama fans infatuated with that mythical pundit illness known as "da Bama fat-EEG is REAL!"
 
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I kind of missed this - the over-reacting and over-concluding of, well, everyone watching CFB.

Now we're back to every single time anyone has a "struggle win" they're "overrated."

But what if Minnesota winds up unbeaten other than last night?

We. Don't. Know. Yet.
Agreed. Much of their future success will depend on Ibrahim’s injury. But, in that division they could run the table or only drop one more. OSU is the best team they'll play all year. Have to wait & see on the Gophers. They *seem* to be a quality team. Give props to the Buckeyes going on the road coming behind to beat them.
 
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Stroud.

In the second half last night, he threw 5 passes. 4 were completed. For 4 TDs.

Yes, his WRs are awesome. However some of those throws were long, downfield throws.

He is good. OSU is good. Playoff good? That remains to be seen, but yes the talent is there.
On the other hand, how many of those throws had a defender within 5 yards of the receiver?

I'm more than willing to chalk it up to first-game jitters or whatever; I'm just saying that nothing has been - from a technical, executional standpoint - impressive from him, yet. And yet may prove to be the operative word there or it might not...
 

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On the other hand, how many of those throws had a defender within 5 yards of the receiver?

I'm more than willing to chalk it up to first-game jitters or whatever; I'm just saying that nothing has been - from a technical, executional standpoint - impressive from him, yet. And yet may prove to be the operative word there or it might not...
True. From memory, most of his second half throws were to wide open WRs. But he did hit them in stride for the most part.

I don't think he's on the way to a Heisman either. He has to get better if OSU is going to contend, for sure. But he's surrounded by great players.
 

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I'll spot you. We have Alabama fans infatuated with that mythical pundit illness known as "da Bama fat-EEG is REAL!"
It's according to the context. With the CFPC, who's charge is to be impartial selectors, there is no Bama fatigue. In the media, Finebaum and others are fair, but not all. As far as many fans and some in the media there most definitely is "Bama fatigue". The media itself often acknowledges its existence - never even hinting that it does not exist. One article after another that refers to it could be cited. It's has almost become axiomatic, even Pinterest had a line about it, "Alabama fatigue becoming part of sports lexicon". Frankly, IMO, it's indisputable. Of course some of it may be simple anti-Bama bias.

Do some Alabama fans see ghosts? Sure, but that's to be expected, especially since it's real, some will imagine things and think that everything that does not go their way or every criticism is because of Bama fatigue.

If I had not seen previous posts indicating the same thing, I would have thought you were kidding.

Alabama football has transcended not only college football but sports in general, so that it has contributed at least one idiom, "Bring on Bama", and one axiom, "Bama fatigue", to the English language :).
 
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It's according to the context. With the CFPC, who's charge is to be impartial selectors, there is no Bama fatigue. In the media, Finebaum and others are fair, but not all. As far as many fans and some in the media there most definitely is "Bama fatigue". The media itself often acknowledges its existence - never even hinting that it does not exist. One article after another that refers to it could be cited. It's has almost become axiomatic, even Pinterest had a line about it, "Alabama fatigue becoming part of sports lexicon". Frankly, IMO, it's indisputable. Of course some of it may be simple anti-Bama bias.

Do some Alabama fans see ghosts? Sure, but that's to be expected, especially since it's real, some will imagine things and think that everything that does not go their way or every criticism is because of Bama fatigue.

If I had not seen previous posts indicating the same thing, I would have thought you were kidding.

Alabama football has transcended not only college football but sports in general, so that it has contributed at least one idiom, "Bring on Bama", and one axiom, "Bama fatigue", to the English language :).
Alabama fatigue is 100% fake amongst people that matter. I literally had a person tell me after Clemson beat the crap out of Locksley that Alabama would no longer get the benefit of the doubt. Had we beaten Auburn with mac Jones then LSU fans would have been fainting in the streaks because the CFP forced a rematch in Atlanta.

As for the media... They are paid to entertain and not to give real opinions.
 
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America loves winners, and Alabama is a winner. Some get tired of seeing the same thing over and over again, and they might desire seeing different teams in the CFP. But, at the end of the day, America loves Alabama because Alabama just wins.

Of course, there are those who make excuses for their lack of a similar performance (Alabama cheats, the SEC cheats, etc.). I try to ignore people like that. You can't reason with them, so just tune them out.
 
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Buckeye fans think that OSU is going to win the championship, Heisman, etc. every year. It is a disease, not hype. Tell me of someone outside of the OSU fan base hyping him.
That sounds like LSU fans I’ve known. When I lived in Louisiana, if LSU won a fairly big game early in the season it was, “ OK, that’s it. National champs. “. It was really amusing.
 
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It's according to the context. With the CFPC, who's charge is to be impartial selectors, there is no Bama fatigue.
And this is the key point that always has to be kept in mind. The comments to which I refer - and the most commonly used here - are the ones that insist we have to go undefeated or win the SEC or else the CFPC is going to make sure they don't select us "because the Bama fatigue is real."

Fans hate us for the same reason they hate the New England Patriots and Tom Brady - because we win a lot. In another time it was the Boston Celtics or the Green Bay Packers or the New York Yankees or the Pittsburgh Steelers. (Much of the joy fans have at pointing out the Dallas Cowboys haven't made an NFC title game since VCRs were in use was because the Cowboys won so much from 1966-1995).

So yeah, I concur that fans and sportswriters and pundits and monetarily compensated gasbags may be struck with the affliction. But I also think this whole notion that the media is against us (which has SOME truth to it) makes idiots of fans who make that comment because it's like they think we still select national champions by poll vote.

Look, I'm from Alabama, born in Selma just four years after the famous march. I absolutely do understand that our state (unfortunately) has some loud-mouthed simpletons who haven't evolved since the Paleolithic Era AND I also understand how some other environs in our nation like to mock our accents, our educations, some of our priorities, and start with the assumption that everyone from Alabama is basically a dumbed down version of Sheriff Buford T. Justice. Both the reality that we are pre-judged (and thus we ARE slighted by a lot of folks) AND that we provide ammo to some folks - both realities ARE true. So even I get the standoffish refusal to budge from Alabamians, I have that notion out of state, too.

But it's this "the whole world hates us" concept that really grinds me because NO, we are NOT hated with constantly moving goalposts (if you'll pardon the pun) among those that matter. The TV networks like us because we bring the highest ratings, the conference office likes us because we deliver the cash, the smart analysts like Herbstreit like us because he understands what makes a team good and how hard it is, and the coaches (in particular) on the committee like us because they understand what goes into making the team we have.


I'll concede the fans of other programs hate us for the same reason I loathed Miami in the 80s, Nebraska and FSU in the 90s, and USC in the 00s. But 90% of the usages of that term are someone basically inverting the conspiracy theory of "the SEC offices are in Bham" to "they're all agin us."

That's my only point.


Bama fatigue among other fans has been around since the Bryant era.
Bama fatigue among the selectors and TV networks is as mythical as the Loch Ness Monster.
 

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