A&M fan debunking Texas fan base cuz most didn't go to the school

[bamatex82]

What kind of logic is that anyway? When my Aggie friend made that statement he made it as if the logic was self evident. Maybe there are bandwagon fans, but with Texas's lack of success recently there aren't as many. Why does someone have to be associated with the school in order to be a fan? I think they are just trying to say Texas being more popular isn't significant, that A&M has more "true" fans - whatever that is. Things that make me roll my eyes...

 

[81usaf92]

What kind of logic is that anyway? When my Aggie friend made that statement he made it as if the logic was self evident. Maybe there are bandwagon fans, but with Texas's lack of success recently there aren't as many. Why does someone have to be associated with the school in order to be a fan? I think they are just trying to say Texas being more popular isn't significant, that A&M has more "true" fans - whatever that is. Things that make me roll my eyes...

Why don't you just change the title to "Auburn fans debunking the Alabama fanbase cuz most didn't go there" and you would have the same argument. I will say that in way aTm and auburn fans are more committed to non football sports and events than Bama and Texas fans. And there is a higher percentage of grads amongst their from their team's universities than Bama and Texas, but they fail to understand that the Texas and Bama fan bases are far bigger than theirs. So I strongly disagree with the logic that both use for true fan hood

Fwiw Another dumb argument they use is that it is harder to get into auburn than Alabama. Sure ACT scores are slightly higher at auburn last time I checked, but they fail to acknowledge that Alabama has the 3rd lowest acceptance rates in the SEC behind vandy and Florida.

 

[B1GTide]

These arguments are stupid and paper thin when you apply them across all sports. Most sports fans (non-collegiate) have no direct relationship with their team. Are they not fans? Ever been to a Browns game? That team is hopeless and helpless, but their fans love them. Most of those fans will never get to attend a game in person, and only a tiny percentage live in Cleveland. I am not sure if any of the players or coaches are from Cleveland. Heck, the owner isn't from Cleveland - he lives in TN.

 

[Crimson1967]

They are the barn of Texas.


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[TideEngineer08]

What percentage of the 105,000 fans inside Kyle Field on a given Saturday do you think actually attended Texas A&M? How about, what percentage actually have a degree from A&M?

This is really a silly thing to brag about, but hey, when you are little brother, you've got to find whatever morsel of pride you can. A&M ought to forget about Texas anyway.

 

[BamaMoon]

What kind of logic is that anyway? When my Aggie friend made that statement he made it as if the logic was self evident. Maybe there are bandwagon fans, but with Texas's lack of success recently there aren't as many. Why does someone have to be associated with the school in order to be a fan? I think they are just trying to say Texas being more popular isn't significant, that A&M has more "true" fans - whatever that is. Things that make me roll my eyes...

Same logic most Barners use about Alabama's fanbase. It's stupid. You know, I've never had my credentials checked going into BDS, not once.

 

[cbi1972]

I view having "sidewalk alumni" as an honor.
It means your program has broad appeal, even to those with no direct affiliation.
It's like being loved by somebody other than your own parents.

 

[teamplayer]

I view having "sidewalk alumni" as an honor.
It means your program has broad appeal, even to those with no direct affiliation.
It's like being loved by somebody other than your own parents.

I agree. I have been on both sides of this argument, I suppose. I grew up a Bama fan and loved all things Bama. My dad did attend and graduate from the university, so I also had that connection. I was very excited when I was able to attend UA and very proud when I graduated. I will admit that there is often a difference between those who attended the university and those who simply like the football team. Most people who attended the university, including myself, learn to love it and everything associated with it and want teams, football included, to be positive reflections of the school. I am not a win at all costs guy. I am a winning does not matter if it isn't done the right way guy. Whereas, there are many fans who wouldn't care if the university shut down as long as they kept playing football, so I can understand points on both sides.

 

[tlockwood]

I have never attended the University of Alabama, nor have I played for the Atlanta Braves. I am a big fan of both. I have read most books out there on Alabama, watch every game, and, maybe more importantly, I am a fan when we are winning or losing. I can see no issue with sitting beside a fellow Bama fan with a doctorate from the school and cheering just as loud as him/her. This argument is low class at best. (Someone post Russell from the Cosby kids).

 

[Krymsonman]

Well, I'm a proud member of the sidewalk alumni here in New Orleans. Born in Mobile, I became a TIDE fan at birth. I would have loved to have gone to BAMA but circumstances way back prevented that. I raised my son right and he graduated from BAMA in 2011. I'm in tigger country, but I fly my BAMA flag out front 24 hours a day. My wife complains but I follow BAMA year-round. Her favorite line is, I thought you just watched football, now your watching..............
I wish I could have gone there, but I'm Crimson Tide til I die............and beyond.

Krymsonman

 

[gtowntide]

I too was born and raised an Alabama fan. My dad took me to some games at Legion Field and those are some of my favorite memories with my dad. I'm not a college graduate from any school. I went to Vietnam and came back and went to work. I feel proud of Alabama as if I did go there, it is my school.
I've never understood the "sidewalk fan" thing anyway.

 

[sabanball]

All things aTm fully explained here:

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[selmaborntidefan]

What kind of logic is that anyway? When my Aggie friend made that statement he made it as if the logic was self evident. Maybe there are bandwagon fans, but with Texas's lack of success recently there aren't as many. Why does someone have to be associated with the school in order to be a fan? I think they are just trying to say Texas being more popular isn't significant, that A&M has more "true" fans - whatever that is. Things that make me roll my eyes...

I'm gonna explain this level of Barner logic to y'all - no, it makes no sense, but oh well.

When football began shortly after Noah got off the boat, fans gravitated towards the flagship school of the state (for the most part) - Alabama, Mississippi, LSU, Texas, Oklahoma. Fans of the game who didn't have an NFL team back in the 30s and 40s gravitated towards interest in the state's 'big name,' which in the Heart of Dixie was the Crimson Tide, for better or worse.

A fan was more likely to pull for the 'lesser known' school (Auburn, Okie State, ATM) if he or she attended that school for obvious reasons. The problem, of course, is that that doesn't mean every single fan of Auburn or ATM has ever even set foot on campus - it's a regional thing. If you grew up in Lanett like my Mom did in the 50s, you primarily heard Auburn games on the radio (and her Dad was a Ga Tech fan going back to the days of John Heisman; her brother actually played streetball and tag and those games with Auburn's 1961 quarterback Bobby Hunt and lineman Dave Hill).

But it became a fallback argument when Alabama (in particular) was winning title after title using this kind of 'logic' - "anybody can pull for a perennial winner but you're a 'better or more loyal fan' if you pull for a team that loses a lot of games." So unlike Alabama fans - who are assumed to all be front-runners and can't be found when the Tide has a 3-9 season - Auburn fans (or in this case ATM as opposed to UT) are REAL fans because they're there either way. So goes the story....go back and look at the empty seats at Jordan-Hare in 2012.

Those same seats were packed to the gills just a year later...oh, when Auburn had a pretty decent team on the field.

Now - I'm not criticizing Auburn or their fans IN ANY WAY by noting the empty seats......just let's quit the pretense that fans of the 'second school' in a state are somehow 'real fans' as opposed to those pulling for the favorite. It's true some are but that goes both ways.

It really doesn't matter. I've never been to an Atlanta Falcons game ever, but I still pull for them.

 

[MikeD]

I'm gonna explain this level of Barner logic to y'all - no, it makes no sense, but oh well.

When football began shortly after Noah got off the boat, fans gravitated towards the flagship school of the state (for the most part) - Alabama, Mississippi, LSU, Texas, Oklahoma. Fans of the game who didn't have an NFL team back in the 30s and 40s gravitated towards interest in the state's 'big name,' which in the Heart of Dixie was the Crimson Tide, for better or worse.

A fan was more likely to pull for the 'lesser known' school (Auburn, Okie State, ATM) if he or she attended that school for obvious reasons. The problem, of course, is that that doesn't mean every single fan of Auburn or ATM has ever even set foot on campus - it's a regional thing. If you grew up in Lanett like my Mom did in the 50s, you primarily heard Auburn games on the radio (and her Dad was a Ga Tech fan going back to the days of John Heisman; her brother actually played streetball and tag and those games with Auburn's 1961 quarterback Bobby Hunt and lineman Dave Hill).

But it became a fallback argument when Alabama (in particular) was winning title after title using this kind of 'logic' - "anybody can pull for a perennial winner but you're a 'better or more loyal fan' if you pull for a team that loses a lot of games." So unlike Alabama fans - who are assumed to all be front-runners and can't be found when the Tide has a 3-9 season - Auburn fans (or in this case ATM as opposed to UT) are REAL fans because they're there either way. So goes the story....go back and look at the empty seats at Jordan-Hare in 2012.

Those same seats were packed to the gills just a year later...oh, when Auburn had a pretty decent team on the field.

Now - I'm not criticizing Auburn or their fans IN ANY WAY by noting the empty seats......just let's quit the pretense that fans of the 'second school' in a state are somehow 'real fans' as opposed to those pulling for the favorite. It's true some are but that goes both ways.

It really doesn't matter. I've never been to an Atlanta Falcons game ever, but I still pull for them.

Just as the NY Yankees, Bama is a world-wide phenomenon. I took a taxis ride in DC. The cab driver Could barely speak English but saw my shirt and said he had heard about "Roll Tide". No clue about football but heard that Bama is the best at college football.

 

[Isaiah 63:1]

So TAMU and AU are the Spinal Taps of college football in their respective states?

 

[TIDE-HSV]

They are the barn of Texas.


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Sounds like the title of a country/western song...

 

[bamatex82]

I'm gonna explain this level of Barner logic to y'all - no, it makes no sense, but oh well.

When football began shortly after Noah got off the boat, fans gravitated towards the flagship school of the state (for the most part) - Alabama, Mississippi, LSU, Texas, Oklahoma. Fans of the game who didn't have an NFL team back in the 30s and 40s gravitated towards interest in the state's 'big name,' which in the Heart of Dixie was the Crimson Tide, for better or worse.

A fan was more likely to pull for the 'lesser known' school (Auburn, Okie State, ATM) if he or she attended that school for obvious reasons. The problem, of course, is that that doesn't mean every single fan of Auburn or ATM has ever even set foot on campus - it's a regional thing. If you grew up in Lanett like my Mom did in the 50s, you primarily heard Auburn games on the radio (and her Dad was a Ga Tech fan going back to the days of John Heisman; her brother actually played streetball and tag and those games with Auburn's 1961 quarterback Bobby Hunt and lineman Dave Hill).

But it became a fallback argument when Alabama (in particular) was winning title after title using this kind of 'logic' - "anybody can pull for a perennial winner but you're a 'better or more loyal fan' if you pull for a team that loses a lot of games." So unlike Alabama fans - who are assumed to all be front-runners and can't be found when the Tide has a 3-9 season - Auburn fans (or in this case ATM as opposed to UT) are REAL fans because they're there either way. So goes the story....go back and look at the empty seats at Jordan-Hare in 2012.

Those same seats were packed to the gills just a year later...oh, when Auburn had a pretty decent team on the field.

Now - I'm not criticizing Auburn or their fans IN ANY WAY by noting the empty seats......just let's quit the pretense that fans of the 'second school' in a state are somehow 'real fans' as opposed to those pulling for the favorite. It's true some are but that goes both ways.

It really doesn't matter. I've never been to an Atlanta Falcons game ever, but I still pull for them.

Wished I wrote this. Great analysis.

 

[TideMan09]

I didn't attend UA either, I'm a "Born N Bred" Alabama Boy proudly, the moment I took my first breath my Dad said "ROLL TIDE"(true story)..I have as much pride in UA as any Bama Fan can cause it represents the State I was proudly born in & have lived in all my life..I don't have a ton of money, but, manage my finances that allows to support UA through Tide Pride..I attend as many games my health allows me too..

What helps make Alabama that "King Of The Hill" is combination support The University Of Alabama has from its alumni support & the support from other Alabamians that loves it State School..It's the greatest entity of pride we have in Alabama & I will support The Tide 'til I take my last breath..

 

[CHATTBRIT]

These arguments are stupid and paper thin when you apply them across all sports. Most sports fans (non-collegiate) have no direct relationship with their team. Are they not fans? Ever been to a Browns game? That team is hopeless and helpless, but their fans love them. Most of those fans will never get to attend a game in person, and only a tiny percentage live in Cleveland. I am not sure if any of the players or coaches are from Cleveland. Heck, the owner isn't from Cleveland - he lives in TN.

FYI Haslam is the owner and his brother is the Gov of TN.

 

[Isaiah 63:1]

...Ever been to a Browns game? ... Heck, the owner isn't from Cleveland - he lives in TN.

And not even in Cleveland, TN!


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