Not trying to put words in your mouth, but do you think Dareus should have been suspended more than 2 games?
If Green's suspension was fair, then what was Marcell's?
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If Green's suspension was fair, then what was Marcell's?
Dareus was suspended 4 games but his forthrightness to the NCAA on the matter which included him initiating the investigation after hearing about Austin earned some goodwill from the NCAA and thus a suspension cut in half.
Obviously Green wasn't as open with the NCAA.
I don't know enough about this situation to really make a judgment call. But, it would certainly be interesting to get people's takes on the matter if names were replaced with blank spaces.
And you never will but it's obvious if you read between the lines. There's also reason to believe he set this up to earn a payment from a runner or agent. Jersey for a grand, yessir!
Dareus was contrite and didn't do something so rife with intent to break the rules.
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That would be one crazy valuable football player.
That would be one crazy valuable football player.
Why not? We found out the truth in the Dez Bryant situation.
And as I stated earlier in this thread, a game used autographed jersey worn by a star player is worth a lot. $1000 is actually on the low end when you start doing some research.
That's all speculation. You can't just assume that's the truth because you're an Alabama fan. From the sound of it, yes Dareus was apologetic and forthcoming, but we don't know about Green. And the results of the investigation into Dareus proved that we don't know what we thought we knew. He took two trips to Miami totaling $1,700. We all took it as the gospel truth that he only took 1 trip and it was under $1,000. If it involves one of our players, of course we assume their innocent until proven guilty. Just because Green plays for a rival team doesn't mean we should judge him differently.
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Agreed. I personally find it funny that we call college athletes amateurs, but everyone from the coaches to the school athletic departments make millions.
You can count me as one who agrees with you. I am not just going to assume that he lied to the NCAA. I think that the NCAA simply has no rubric for suspensions, it seems like they just draw numbers out of a hat....
I read Chris Low's article on Espn and it stated the Aj was very emphatic on NOT being involved with the agent fiasco, he got caught.
He still hasn't been linked to the fiasco in Miami. My understanding is that his suspension is due, entirely, to selling the jersey.
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You mean he got caught . . . telling the truth.
He wasn't involved in the agent fiasco. The Miami trips/parties and this jersey incident are being reported as being unrelated.
I've seen where he supposedly sold his jersey to an agent like figure. Much different than going to Miami for the agent sponsored parties.
Looks like the NCAA is hell bent on proving who the "Big Dog" is in college football..They're dang well pushing their weight around with a vengeance this year..
He broke the rules. It is against the rules for him to sell game paraphernalia. I may not like the rule, but it is a rule. The four games is related to the amount of the offense. If he had lied that would have been a different offense and would have meant a longer extension (see Dez Bryant). The fact that he wasn't exactly forthcoming may have been the reason why he got the full 4 games and not the 2 games that Dareus got. Remember the NCAA called Marcell one of the most honest student athletes they have dealt with and obviously believe that he did not mean to break the rules. That is why they cut the penalty from 4 games to 2.
I don't see where all the talk is coming from about AJ lying to the NCAA. I think that is an incorrect conjecture and may be falsely maligning the young man. Its clear he broke the rules and can't believe that people can't see that given the current rulebook (not saying you have to agree with the rule, but it obviously violates the rule). If I were Georgia I would make sure there wasn't further involvement with said agent. Where there is smoke there is fire.
I don't see where all the talk is coming from about AJ lying to the NCAA. I think that is an incorrect conjecture and may be falsely maligning the young man. Its clear he broke the rules and can't believe that people can't see that given the current rulebook (not saying you have to agree with the rule, but it obviously violates the rule). If I were Georgia I would make sure there wasn't further involvement with said agent. Where there is smoke there is fire.
We need to remember that the NCAA rules are voted on by the schools. They aren't made up secretly by someone in a back room.
Some of these rules that seem so restrictive are written because of the ingenuity of people trying to funnel money to players. What the NCAA rule is concerned with is that the sale could be a cover for an agent giving money to a player.
Some of these rules that seem so restrictive are written because of the ingenuity of people trying to funnel money to players. What the NCAA rule is concerned with is that the sale could be a cover for an agent giving money to a player.
I'm not going to read all seven pages of this thread. However, I'll state that the situation with Green runs square into the NCAA principle that a student-athlete cannot profit from his status as such, or he becomes a professional. Goes all the way back to Jim Thorpe. It's OK to disagree with the rule or criticize the way they apply it (as I did with Dareus), but, in the final analysis, if that rule is abandoned, then we must go back to the beginning and reconstitute all the rules. That would be preferable, but it's not going to happen until there's a real crisis...
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