Bama is already being rewarded. They have been ranked 1 and 2 the first 2 years of the playoffs, including being the highest ranked 1 loss team both years. So, the POC knows what they are doing and rightfully rewarding the toughest schedule, among contenders at least, and the best team. Why add to Bama's incredible grind ? It is unnecessary and every honest and objective person knows it. Is this just for the viewing pleasure of a few fans for one more week of the year ? It's madness.
Alabama's 1978 schedule vs. 2015
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And yet the conference that he dominates always votes him down on the issue.
You keep bringing up FCS teams but when someone calls you on it you either go to the Big 10 argument or you call them delusional or biased even if they bring up charts and metrics proving your position wrong.
I can understand wanting a 78 like schedule, but the only team in the country that plays one like it consistently is notre dame. I will go back 40 years this time and maybe this time you will answer it. Why since 75 has notre dame only won 2 titles and had 2 title butt kickings, while bama has had 7 titles?
I can not believe you've fallen for it.
What did the Big 12 do? They lost Colorado, Nebraska, Missouri, and Texas A&M. They also dropped their conference championship game. They added TCU and West Virginia who are in no way an adequate replacement for the loss of quality depth. So what really happened here? They dropped one heck of a challenge, they now insure they play Kansas and Iowa St. annually, and you're praising what they did like things didn't just get easier for them!
Do I have to repeat myself? Loss of quality depth in the conference and they don't have a conference championship game anymore.
That's not the best one though, the Big 10's last two additions are get this worse than any team in the SEC West! Think about that, they added two teams, to a single division both of which are worse than the worst the SEC West has! So then they add a conference game, oh wow, now that they have added two cupcakes to the conference! There you are though, pretending they are not cupcakes. Do the math, you add two cupcakes to a 14 team conference, then you add one more conference game, you're basically just adding cupcakes to the schedule! It's sad how the Big 10 can trick people so easily, but we keep explaining it to you.
The Pac 12 is a bit of a different story. They didn't dilute their conference intentionally, or drop a conference championship game. Good for them, but as I already showed, they had some catching up to do anyway. Go ahead, click the link, I already dealt with that 9 conference game stuff a while ago.
At this point I don't know what to say other than have you considered applying to the Big 10s propaganda department?
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It's not because of the schedule, but IMO, because they've been better - at least during the Saban era. ND may have more name teams, but Bama usually has the tougher schedule.
The amount of travel and not having breaks with fcs opponents was the point. ND doesn't play many, if any fcs opponents. But yet bama consistently plays a stronger schedule than ND due to conference and division we play in, but tusk feels we should get rid of fcs opponents but nd is one of many reasons on why we shouldn't. The fcs games are used for a break within a chaotic already schedule. Imagine if Alabama made choose the 4 OOC like ND does.
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Their coaching has stunk to high heaven, next question on ND? Make the same argument since Kelly, other than they are not good enough to beat Bama?
I just put in print that I'm a reasonable Bama fan. Got to walk before you sprint. It only took a little over a century and a quarter to make this a real playoff. So, just to get the ball rolling, I'll take the extra conference game.
And as far as that shot at coach Saban's vision of the future, I'm stunned. Has he ever let you down? Roll Tide!!!!
You can go right on ignoring me when I post a rebuttal of your claims, but let's just be clear that your vision is not Nick Saban's. You hate the FCS opponents right? You hate the non-Power 5 opponents right? Well that's part of a Nick Saban approved schedule so...
Edit: I think we get it. Your telling someone else to put down a calculator was as honest a way of putting it as you could. You don't care much about the stats, and numbers, and figures. You don't care much that 2015 was actually a more difficult schedule than 1978. You just want games you find entertaining. We get that, but it doesn't give you the privilege of wrapping that hope in a lot of misinformation and what has as of yet been nothing but dodging the statistics that show your vision is not one that would level the playing field but would in fact have the SEC playing far tougher schedules. You claim otherwise but produce nothing at all of substance to back this up, while we do in fact provide more than just specious claims.
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The amount of travel and not having breaks with fcs opponents was the point. ND doesn't play many, if any fcs opponents. But yet bama consistently plays a stronger schedule than ND due to conference and division we play in, but tusk feels we should get rid of fcs opponents but nd is one of many reasons on why we shouldn't. The fcs games are used for a break within a chaotic already schedule. Imagine if Alabama made choose the 4 OOC like ND does.
Don't have to imagine. I'm the one who wrote out the 1978 schedule. Was also an eye witness. It really happened.
You said ND's schedule was a reason they haven't done well with their record over time. Then you just stated that Bama's record, cupcakes and all, is superior and yet we've been super successful because of it.
We're bogging down.
Very colorful graphic.
Possibly, or again it could be the amount of travel and the lack of breaks as well.
Then why do you:
A) disregard any evidence that someone takes the time to dig up and present to you immediately
and
B) Make condescending remarks to those that don't agree with.
IMO doesn't sound like a real reasonable fan.
So citing the truth that the majority of the SEC teams have shot down his idea of a 9 conference schedule at conference meetings is a shot at CNS?!?!
Do you care to give a proper rebuttal with some evidence or do you want to live and die off of these 5th grade remarks and extremes. Because we have shown the 2015 schedule is way harder than the 1978 countless times, and yet you have offered no credible evidence to prove otherwise.
You keep referring to the '78 season as though it was murder's row. As I've noted before, but of course no response from you, the '78 team played 5 ranked teams, last year's team played 8. In the last 8 years Bama has AVERAGED more games against ranked teams, 6.5, than the '78 team played, 5.
You and pertinent facts seem to be strangers. What is your agenda ?
Since Lou Holtz, who left in 1996:
Bob Davies
George O'Leary
Tyrone Willingham
Kent Baer
Charlie Weis
Probably was the coaching.
Yeah, it was a shot at the big guy. We call that making a point the hard way. Visionaries are not always appreciated in their time. In 20 years, you'll be wondering why I just didn't get it. Of course, by then we'll be playing 10 conference games. But that's for another day.
Going to use some numbers to show Krazy's point here. I looked at the records of each SEC and B1G team over the last two years (Rutgers and Maryland started in 2014).
| SEC Team | Wins | Wins | B1G Team |
| Alabama | 26 | 26 | Ohio State |
| Georgia | 20 | 23 | Michigan State |
| Ole Miss | 19 | 21 | Wisconsin |
| Mississippi State | 19 | 19 | Iowa |
| LSU | 17 | 15 | Northwestern |
| Florida | 17 | 15 | Nebraska |
| Texas A&M | 16 | 15 | Michigan |
| Missouri | 16 | 14 | Penn State |
| Tennessee | 16 | 14 | Minnesota |
| Arkansas | 15 | 12 | Rutgers |
| Auburn | 15 | 11 | Illinois |
| South Carolina | 10 | 10 | Maryland |
| Kentucky | 8 | 10 | Indiana |
| Vanderbilt | 7 | 5 | Purdue |
You can move around the teams tied with number of wins if you like, but I'm pretty sure we all agree on the stronger team in most of those matchups.
So stating a fact that is based on factual and irrefutable evidence is a considered an off based insult, WOW!!!
Is that you oregonblitzkrieg????
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A perfect example of being misleading. O'Leary never coached a game and Baer was interim coach for 1 game. And you left off a very good coach in Kelly. With that being said, your overall point was valid.
Visionary ? You seem to have trouble interpreting or even reporting the past and present.
Quit feeding in to the idiocy guys.
Until we install a video game like schedule, playing 12 ranked teams every year, some people won't be happy. Those people don't care about winning, don't care about the athletes, and certainly don't care about reasonable opinions (or facts), they just want to be entertained like a Roman plebian watching two gladiators battle to the death.
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Until we install a video game like schedule, playing 12 ranked teams every year, some people won't be happy. Those people don't care about winning, don't care about the athletes, and certainly don't care about reasonable opinions (or facts), they just want to be entertained like a Roman plebian watching two gladiators battle to the death.
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To further your point, though the 2015 schedule looks fairly potent, with no FCS opponents, it was really bad.The amount of travel and not having breaks with fcs opponents was the point. ND doesn't play many, if any fcs opponents. But yet bama consistently plays a stronger schedule than ND due to conference and division we play in, but tusk feels we should get rid of fcs opponents but nd is one of many reasons on why we shouldn't. The fcs games are used for a break within a chaotic already schedule. Imagine if Alabama made choose the 4 OOC like ND does.
Texas 5-7
Va 4-8
Ga Tech 3-9
Mass 3-9 against MAC competition
Wake 3-9
BC 3-9
The last 3 would have had trouble against upper level FCS comp.
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