News Article: Alabama's "Way too Early Depth Chart"

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"The lack of departures is an encouraging sign for the Crimson Tide as Deboer enters his second year and allows us to project what the depth chart will look like ahead to fall camp." - article


 

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Really good looking group on paper. With the mulligan year out of the way and Grubb on board I expect us to compete for the league title and a playoff spot. But anything less than that is unacceptable for any season around here, right?
 

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Really good looking group on paper. With the mulligan year out of the way and Grubb on board I expect us to compete for the league title and a playoff spot. But anything less than that is unacceptable for any season around here, right?
We went 9-3 in the regular season in DeBoer's first season. Fans and the sports media will expect improvement in year two, because, well, that's just how it should be, right? The first year is all about the struggles of a new regime, change, players leaving, getting the right players in, wrong players out, etc. In the second year, there should be more stability, familiarity, and cohesiveness. So naturally there should be improvement in year two from year one. The question is, how much improvement do we expect and will we see?

Are we expecting a 1 game improvement, 2 game improvement or the full 3 game improvement with an undefeated regular season? A 1 game improvement gets us to 10 wins and probably in the conversation of SEC title game. A 2 game improvement probably guarantees us a spot in the title game and a spot in the playoffs. Of course, we all know what a 3 game improvement would mean.
 

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We went 9-3 in the regular season in DeBoer's first season. Fans and the sports media will expect improvement in year two, because, well, that's just how it should be, right? The first year is all about the struggles of a new regime, change, players leaving, getting the right players in, wrong players out, etc. In the second year, there should be more stability, familiarity, and cohesiveness. So naturally there should be improvement in year two from year one. The question is, how much improvement do we expect and will we see?

Are we expecting a 1 game improvement, 2 game improvement or the full 3 game improvement with an undefeated regular season? A 1 game improvement gets us to 10 wins and probably in the conversation of SEC title game. A 2 game improvement probably guarantees us a spot in the title game and a spot in the playoffs. Of course, we all know what a 3 game improvement would mean.
For me improvement might not be in the W-L record, although I definitely don't wanna regress, as much as not losing the games we're supposed to win. That REALLY BAD loss to OU still stings, even more than the Vandy loss. Establishing offensive consistency, as we all know, should yield a better overall record and I'm always disappointed with a loss but I'm not expecting an undefeated season in this league either.
 

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We went 9-3 in the regular season in DeBoer's first season. Fans and the sports media will expect improvement in year two, because, well, that's just how it should be, right? The first year is all about the struggles of a new regime, change, players leaving, getting the right players in, wrong players out, etc. In the second year, there should be more stability, familiarity, and cohesiveness. So naturally there should be improvement in year two from year one. The question is, how much improvement do we expect and will we see?

Are we expecting a 1 game improvement, 2 game improvement or the full 3 game improvement with an undefeated regular season? A 1 game improvement gets us to 10 wins and probably in the conversation of SEC title game. A 2 game improvement probably guarantees us a spot in the title game and a spot in the playoffs. Of course, we all know what a 3 game improvement would mean.
We certainly all want improvement in the number of games we win but there is also a consistency in performance factor. Can't struggle or lose against vandy or the cocks. Need ALL of our playmakers on offense involved making plays. The offense in general needs to be unpredictable, effective and flow in long drives and not rely on the big gainer. D needs to really step it up too. I am pretty optimistic but this is a tough league. Just glad media expectations aren't driving the perception of this team like it has, well, the past 17 years.
 

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I think DeBoer is in real trouble if we don't make the playoffs and he probably should be. Context will matter but we are too talented to miss the 12 team playoffs 2 years in a row
Yeah that’s where I’m at with it.

If he wants to basically forfeit 3 games (Tenn, OU, Mich) in year 1 he better make a field of 12 in year 2.

$10 Million HC’s shouldn’t miss a field that large.
 

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Yeah that’s where I’m at with it.

If he wants to basically forfeit 3 games (Tenn, OU, Mich) in year 1 he better make a field of 12 in year 2.

$10 Million HC’s shouldn’t miss a field that large.
Vandy to painful to mention ;)?

That one and OU were the worst.

The goals better be

1: playoffs,
2: SEC championship game
3: getting deeper into the playoff pool.
 
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Yeah that’s where I’m at with it.

If he wants to basically forfeit 3 games (Tenn, OU, Mich) in year 1 he better make a field of 12 in year 2.

$10 Million HC’s shouldn’t miss a field that large.
Yeah, with a 12-team playoff, making it into that is the minimum requirement. If he doesn't make it it means we lost at least three regular season games or more, and that's not going to fly in Tuscaloosa.
 
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Vandy to painful to mention ;)?

That one and OU were the worst.

The goals better be

1: playoffs,
2: SEC championship game
3: getting deeper into the playoff pool.
Vandy was winnable and mostly bad because it was ‘Vandy’

Those other three were non competitive on offense and playing with 2 hands tied behind our backs.

He threw all 3 I mentioned straight in the garbage and I’m still steamed about it.
 
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I think DeBoer is in real trouble if we don't make the playoffs and he probably should be. Context will matter but we are too talented to miss the 12 team playoffs 2 years in a row
That's a little soon to say. He gets a complete pass for year 1, due to who the QB was, and the fact that we didn't even install DeBoer's offense. If we fire him after 2 years, then we are probably heading for a decade plus of mediocrity, because it will mean we have impossible expectations. DeBoer is clearly the guy, but he needs time to build the program in his image. He should have at least 3 years before we start talking about that. If he goes 6-6 then maybe, but we would be nuts to fire him if he went 9-3 again, especially when we will likely have the toughest schedule In football once more
 

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That's a little soon to say. He gets a complete pass for year 1, due to who the QB was. If we fire him after 2 years, then we are probably heading for a decade plus of mediocrity, because it will mean we have impossible expectations. DeBoer is clearly the guy, but he needs time to build the program in his image. He should have at least 3 years before we start talking about that. If he goes 6-6 then maybe, but we would be nuts to fire him if he went 9-3 again, especially when we will likely have the toughest schedule In football once more
No he doesn’t.

He straight up does not get a free pass.

He’s a $10 Million dollar HC and if he isn’t responsible for who plays and who doesn’t then we hired the wrong guy.

He’s responsible for all 9 wins and all 4 losses.

It’s his job to be 100% in charge.
 
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I think DeBoer is in real trouble if we don't make the playoffs and he probably should be. Context will matter but we are too talented to miss the 12 team playoffs 2 years in a row
Still chalk last year up to mulligan/transition season despite the fact of missing the 12 team playoff...which should have never happened with the talent we had on the roster. All the regular season teams we lost to we'll have in T-Town this year but we have to go to Athens and both Colombias. I think Grubb makes the difference for us as it really was offensive problems with inconsistency we had in 2024. But I agree, Alabama should be in every 12 team playoff from now to eternity. Nothing else will be acceptable.
 

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No he doesn’t.

He straight up does not get a free pass.

He’s a $10 Million dollar HC and if he isn’t responsible for who plays and who doesn’t then we hired the wrong guy.

He’s responsible for all 9 wins and all 4 losses.

It’s his job to be 100% in charge.
We've been over this a million times. He inherited an impossible situation at QB, and he had no choice but to commit to Milroe, lest he lose basically the entire roster. Not only that, we were one game away from the playoffs despite all the issues of last year's team. Some of y'all act like we went 6-6. We had a pretty solid season, including a great win over Geogia. Sure , we didn't make the playoffs, but there was zero chance we were winning the national championship with Milroe, so its not really that big of a deal. 9-3 is exactly what most of the fans expected, so I don't understand why everyone is so upset
 

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We've been over this a million times. He inherited an impossible situation at QB, and he had no choice but to commit to Milroe, lest he lose basically the entire roster. Not only that, we were one game away from the playoffs despite all the issues of last year's team. Some of y'all act like we went 6-6. We had a pretty solid season, including a great win over Geogia. Sure , we didn't make the playoffs, but there was zero chance we were winning the national championship with Milroe, so its not really that big of a deal. 9-3 is exactly what most of the fans expected, so I don't understand why everyone is so upset
We were one win away from 10-2 and a few plays away in the South Carolina game and UGA game from being 7-5 or 8-4.
 

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We've been over this a million times. He inherited an impossible situation at QB, and he had no choice but to commit to Milroe, lest he lose basically the entire roster. Not only that, we were one game away from the playoffs despite all the issues of last year's team. Some of y'all act like we went 6-6. We had a pretty solid season, including a great win over Geogia. Sure , we didn't make the playoffs, but there was zero chance we were winning the national championship with Milroe, so its not really that big of a deal. 9-3 is exactly what most of the fans expected, so I don't understand why everyone is so upset
Then we’ll go over it a million more times until people understand you don’t let inmates run the asylum and that HCs bear responsibility for their decisions.
 
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We were one win away from 10-2 and a few plays away in the South Carolina game and UGA game from being 7-5 or 8-4.
If we wanna play the what if game, then we also gotta recognize we actually were in the top 12. If Notre Dame were in a conference, then bama would be in. And that's why I don't understand the negative feeling about it. The difference between us and making the playoffs was literally something out of our control, and if Notre Dame were in a conference, everyone would be satisfied with thei season because we made the playoffs.
 

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If we wanna play the what if game, then we also gotta recognize we actually were in the top 12. If Notre Dame were in a conference, then bama would be in. And that's why I don't understand the negative feeling about it. The difference between us and making the playoffs was literally something out of our control, and if Notre Dame were in a conference, everyone would be satisfied with thei season because we made the playoffs.
Beat ONE of the following teams:
OU or Vanderbilt

Very, very much within our control.
 
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