I can't remember what I said when GS was hired, I was only in the 6th grade when he won the NC. I don't know what GS coaching record was before he was hired, but I do believe Grobe's overall record is barely better that .500... I could be mistaken though.
AP reporting search is narrowed to Rodriguez & Grobe (gag)
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Stallings was 27-45-1 at Texas A&M and 23-34-1 with St. Louis/Arizona.
Grobe's career mark is 67-66-1.
I would like to know why you don't consider Grobe a good coach. I'm using Stallings as a counter because he is a guy we honor as being a great coach, yet his previous experience didn't give the impression that he'd be capable of winning a National Championship or anything close to it.
I think he took advantage of a VERY weak conference this year. I've never heard anything about him until this year, but mainly the fact that he succeeded during a season of very weak competition. I don't think he's a bad coach. I just would be disappointed if we hired him.
There is nothing...short of us changing our colors to orange and blue, that would stop me from supporting Alabama football...true fans stick through ANYTHING brother.If they announce Grobe as our new coach, I'll quit supporting AL football until MM resigns. I love AL, but that will be the straw that broke this camels back!Here's to finding a GOOD coach.
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If Houston Nutt is announced as our new coach, Mal might as well not even come home.
I'm just tired of my pride and joy being mocked nationally. I feel like we are in a downward spiral, and it is getting farther and farther out of control because of the coach situation in general, the sactions, and being mocked nationally by the media. I've lived in 3 different states in the last 10 years, and I hear what other people think other than us here in AL. I am passionate about AL football and I LOVE the players, but the program has been really letting me down over the past decade.
I believe the main reason Wake had so much success this year can be compared to the success Alabama had under Shula in 05'. Dominantly Senior lead football team. Experience wins every time in that situation. Not to mention the fact that it was a very DOWN year in the ACC this year, even by ACC standards.
Well...at 26-23, I guess Mike Shula was destined to be a premiere head coach (his winning percentage is better than Grobe's, and he has the same number of 10 win seasons as Grobe...go figure).
With the exception of 2006, seems to me that Grobe's history as a head coach is a picture of mediocrity (only 5 winning seasons out of 12 total seasons as a head coach). Check these records out as a head coach:
Overall Conference Bowl
2006 WFU 11-2 7-2 Orange
2005 WFU 4-7 3-5
2004 WFU 4-7 1-7
2003 WFU 5-7 3-5
2002 WFU 7-6 3-5 Seattle (W)
2001 WFU 6-5 3-5
2000 Ohio 7-4 5-3
1999 Ohio 5-6 5-3
1998 Ohio 5-6 5-3
1997 Ohio 8-3 6-2
1996 Ohio 6-6 5-3
1995 Ohio 2-8-1 1-6-1
Totals 70-67-1 47-49-1
I'd much prefer Paul Johnson to Jim Grobe. Johnson has a better record being a winner...and we surely need a winner.
I think that Nutt and the coach for Ole Miss came from the same stock.If Houston Nutt is announced as our new coach, Mal might as well not even come home.
For the upteenth time, winning at Ohio and Wake Forest is something few men are able to do.
For the upteenth time, I've had conversations with NFL personnel people who sing the praises of what Jim Grobe can do as a coach.
I don't know what people don't like about him. This search has somehow transformed from who we think can help us win to who we think is going to put the most high-flying offense on the field. That's not the same thing.
What many would be surprised to learn is that if Mike Price had turned us down in 2003, we might have ended up with Jim Grobe then -- and that was before he ever won an ACC championship. In fact, had we not tried to find a coach to develop a passing offense around Croyle, we might have looked to Grobe because of his experience with the flex- and spread-option offenses.
The only real difference between Grobe's offense and Rodriguez's offense, from a theoretical standpoint, is the talent. WVU has twice the talent Wake has, if that.
I may be about to step in it with this statement, but I don't believe most of the people who are criticizing Grobe have seen his teams play enough to really have the basis to comment on him. They've taken a look at the raw W-L numbers and that's as far as it goes. Or, the GaTech game was the first time they'd actually seen Wake play.
Especially given the Stallings comparison, it's not logical to say he's a bad coach -- or that Alabama could "do a lot better." Put the rest of the field at Ohio and Wake and see how they do; it could surprise us all.
For the upteenth time, I've had conversations with NFL personnel people who sing the praises of what Jim Grobe can do as a coach.
I don't know what people don't like about him. This search has somehow transformed from who we think can help us win to who we think is going to put the most high-flying offense on the field. That's not the same thing.
What many would be surprised to learn is that if Mike Price had turned us down in 2003, we might have ended up with Jim Grobe then -- and that was before he ever won an ACC championship. In fact, had we not tried to find a coach to develop a passing offense around Croyle, we might have looked to Grobe because of his experience with the flex- and spread-option offenses.
The only real difference between Grobe's offense and Rodriguez's offense, from a theoretical standpoint, is the talent. WVU has twice the talent Wake has, if that.
I may be about to step in it with this statement, but I don't believe most of the people who are criticizing Grobe have seen his teams play enough to really have the basis to comment on him. They've taken a look at the raw W-L numbers and that's as far as it goes. Or, the GaTech game was the first time they'd actually seen Wake play.
Especially given the Stallings comparison, it's not logical to say he's a bad coach -- or that Alabama could "do a lot better." Put the rest of the field at Ohio and Wake and see how they do; it could surprise us all.
It's the Wake Forest tag. Steely Dan didn't title the song "Deacon Blues" for nothing.:biggrin2:
The Tuscaloosa News is reporting that they have "close sources in the know" saying it was actually the Germans. I don't know who to believe.
Based on those numbers, I can't even believe that Wake Forest hired him. Do yall really think he is really being considered by MM and President Witt?
This guy might be a good coach but I dont feel like he meet's the standards that Mal Moore set when he said " proven winner". If you want to use his record at Ohio then I would be more impressed with Ohio's coach now, Frank Solich (sp?). He won 9 this year at Ohio something Grobe never done there or at Wake until this year. Solich also had some good years at Neb. IMO, he would fall under the " proven winner" statement before Grobe and his name hasn't even been talked about as a canidate. He know's the pressure at a school like Bama.
With Grobe , like Johnson , I just want feel we have the coach to take us to that next level.
Just saw this from Charleston, WV paper:
http://www.wvgazette.com/section/103/2006120434
CRR may be coming afterall.
http://www.wvgazette.com/section/103/2006120434
CRR may be coming afterall.
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I completely agree in that it is probably not so much the money as it is the commitment to the football program. In those terms we are the most committed around, and as evidence, most Alabama fanatics should certainly BE committted (pun intended).
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