News Article: Blake Barnett quit the team

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He's said as much in his press conferences... "Whichever the team responds to". you can interpret that however you want to, and I love Saban as a coach ( I even defended him when a lot of you on here were saying he couldn't adjust), but I think that particular approach to a qb competition is a mistake.

What's the best approach to a QB competition? Just curious, winning the team seems very important and to me, the LSU situation shows what happens when a QB doesn't win the confidence of his teammates.
 
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I think Saban could be partially to blame

I hope Coach Saban is fully to blame.(for choosing a leader) It's the best way to help determine the QB. Otherwise we could just see who could throw thru tires and run fast. Leaders lead. Teammates respond to leaders. They do not undermine them or they would sit the bench.
Some of us have played with strong leaders at the QB position. It makes a tremendous difference. Some of us just see a good pass in the third quarter when the other team is already beat.
It's easier to hit home runs in an all-star game even though you're going against the best. There is a reason for that.
 
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Do you honestly think he solely goes by what the players say?

It's not hard to see how well the players react to certain guys. That's a way to tell if a guy won over the team.


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I didn't think so until this season, and I believe he's only making this mistake with the qbs. I was driving all day Saturday and didn't get to see the game but I've watched every play of the other three, and hurts doesn't have the timing down on his deep throws. His intermediate game isn't great either. We have highly sought after running backs and the best receiving class in the history of UA, perhaps, and you play the guy with the lesser arm? Now maybe it's because he's a great runner, but Barnett was a dual threat qb at one time too, if I'm not mistaken. It just doesn't add up to me, but even if he genuinely beat Barnett out, that doesn't mean Barnett doesn't hear the same things I do and believe he was given the job simply because the team responds better to hurts.
 
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Just finding out so I'm not reading all the posts. I think Barnett has the potential to be a better jr-sr QB than Hurts based on the passing I've seen. Something mentally just hasn't clicked yet for him and a little more experience at the college level may get him to that point.

I hate that he decided not to stay with the team through the season. I don't think there are any rules advantages to leaving now.
 
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What's the best approach to a QB competition? Just curious, winning the team seems very important and to me, the LSU situation shows what happens when a QB doesn't win the confidence of his teammates.

Of course you want the qb to be a leader and have the team respond to him. Maybe I'm not making myself clear. The mistake I believe Saban has made is he keeps talking about it. He shouldn't have said it out loud for everyone to hear.
 
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Yup

Not going to wish Barnett luck. This was a spoiled, entitled move. He basically said screw the team, and showed that he cares more about what he wants now more than anything else. He had a lot of reasons to wait until he graduated to transfer, but he acted like a spoiled kid. I think he has a ton of talent but I now completely understand why he isn't Alabama's starting quarterback. He clearly was never mentally ready and he's not mature.

I agree totally with you. He can make his own luck. What is surprising is that as close aa CNS and staff interview these kids you will sometimes get a brat. Got his poor feelings hurt, and takes his toys to go play with another school without finishing this season.

I think there is more to this than meets the eye.
 
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but even if he genuinely beat Barnett out
I guess some will always think Barnett won the job. Looks like it's gonna be a moot point, although some will never accept a lower star ranking can outperform a higher star ranked guy.
 
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I guess some will always think Barnett won the job. Looks like it's gonna be a moot point, although some will never accept a lower star ranking can outperform a higher star ranked guy.
That might be a fair assessment if I even kept up with their star rankings :)
 
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I didn't think so until this season, and I believe he's only making this mistake with the qbs. I was driving all day Saturday and didn't get to see the game but I've watched every play of the other three, and hurts doesn't have the timing down on his deep throws. His intermediate game isn't great either. We have highly sought after running backs and the best receiving class in the history of UA, perhaps, and you play the guy with the lesser arm? Now maybe it's because he's a great runner, but Barnett was a dual threat qb at one time too, if I'm not mistaken. It just doesn't add up to me, but even if he genuinely beat Barnett out, that doesn't mean Barnett doesn't hear the same things I do and believe he was given the job simply because the team responds better to hurts.
Considering Saban's history of managing teams, I find your thoughts on this absolutely ludicrous. Literally troll-like.
 
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I hate to see Blake leave, I agree he is one play away from being the starter. You never know though. Best of luck to you Blake. Please don't play for a team that has 'Tigers' for a mascot.
 
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He's said as much in his press conferences... "Whichever the team responds to". you can interpret that however you want to, and I love Saban as a coach ( I even defended him when a lot of you on here were saying he couldn't adjust), but I think that particular approach to a qb competition is a mistake.
I think that approach is exactly correct in this situation. It's different when one guy is clearly better than the other. In that situation the coach simply goes with the guy that has the most talent. But here the competition was close. Both QB's were good. In this case going with the one the team responds to was exactly right. It's how I would have decided if I was the HC.
 
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I expected him to transfer, but not in the middle of the year. I have no feelings one way or the other about why or where he transfers to. If he's gone, so be it. I only care about who is on the team, so I won't think two minutes about this. We've got bigger fish to fry.
 
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I didn't think so until this season, and I believe he's only making this mistake with the qbs. I was driving all day Saturday and didn't get to see the game but I've watched every play of the other three, and hurts doesn't have the timing down on his deep throws. His intermediate game isn't great either. We have highly sought after running backs and the best receiving class in the history of UA, perhaps, and you play the guy with the lesser arm? Now maybe it's because he's a great runner, but Barnett was a dual threat qb at one time too, if I'm not mistaken. It just doesn't add up to me, but even if he genuinely beat Barnett out, that doesn't mean Barnett doesn't hear the same things I do and believe he was given the job simply because the team responds better to hurts.

Tomorrow night you should call "Hey Coach" and voice your thoughts to Saban.


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Considering Saban's history of managing teams, I find your thoughts on this absolutely ludicrous. Literally troll-like.

I'm sorry... Im pretty sure (though I won't go back and search) in the past you criticized Saban's defense. Would that make you troll-like, too?
 
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All of our NC's were won with a quarterback that was "further along" and not a peep of "won the team over" in fall camp. Let's hope we end up 1-1 after this season. I am assuming that the coaches believe that Jalen will be a better QB next year (and +2) than just this year over Blake (AJ, Coker type). The Jalen vs Blake battle was nothing like the AJ vs. Sims in season. Which tells me that coach Saban is trying to evolve, but I am still skeptical with the enormous amount of NFL receiver talent we have on the team that the better armed QB would not be the better choice. I think Jalen won because of preconceived evolving of the offense, but I am not convinced it was needed.

Will eat egg win we win it all.
 
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Am I too late to get in on the fun? You guys are 20 pages in. This must really be important (or about Cam Newton/Auburn....I keed I keed).

Couple things that stood out:

Why risk injury on a team who clearly has no plans for you? I think its a smart move on his part. Good luck to the young man.

That's a very interesting way to look at it. The inherent violent nature of the game itself places anyone who steps on the field in danger of injury. So because he didn't get the role on the team he desired, this somehow excludes him from it? I will kindly disagree with that angle, Good Sir.


Travis Reier, on Twitter, writes:
Given the timing, JUCO only destination that makes sense for Barnett.

Finish the season at JUCO and be out in spring.

That makes sense to me. Otherwise, why on earth would you transfer mid-season? Unless maybe you think you can get a waiver to regain this year's eligibility so that he'd still have 4 years to play?

I could be wrong, but it is my understanding that if he enrolls in JUCO right now (whether he plays or not is irrelevant), he'd be eligible to play next season at whatever school he goes to AFTER he sits out for 4 games. If that is the case, the hubris behind such an assumption is astounding. Some major program is going to sit their starter after a month of football for you? Okay, kid. LOL. You got it all figured out.

Can't go into details, but I'll just say that it was time. I really don't like the timing of the move personally, but ultimately he has to do what he feels is best for him and his future. Off the top of my head, I can't think of many QBs in the League who transferred from one major program to another and had it work out for them. Flacco left Penn St. to go to Deleware. The two Florida QBs (Driskell & Brisett are in the league but not starters..both rookies this year). Russell Wilson is a special case. He would have finished at NC State had Tom O'Brien allowed him to after he had given pro baseball a shot, but he wouldn't so he wound up at Wisconsin. If the next level is his goal, I hope it works out for him. I will say, though, that both Tom Brady and Tony Romo became the faces of their respective franchises by being ready when opportunity knocked (ironically it was after injury to the same old poor sap, Drew Bledsoe).

Another irony, too, is that in our last QB battle of sorts, it was the Kent St. game that pretty much cemented it for AJ. Not that AJ was lights out, but Phil was just.....well, you saw it. In this case, Blake did some really good things, but wasn't consistent enough. What you saw in the games (good passes, but also fumbled snaps) is the SAME thing that happened all fall camp. I've already said too much. I'll leave now unless you guys need anything. Enjoy the thread and RTR.
 
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You don't tell a bunch of young people that they get to decided who is the leader. But since I've rarely agreed with anything you've posted in regard to the qb competition, I'm not surprised you believe it to be absurd. Have a lovely evening.

Have you ever played or coached a team sport of any kind or age level?
 
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I'm sorry... Im pretty sure (though I won't go back and search) in the past you criticized Saban's defense. Would that make you troll-like, too?
Nope. One is absolutely defined, based on stats, the other is pure conjecture. I'll let you figure out which is which.
 
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All of our NC's were won with a quarterback that was "further along" and not a peep of "won the team over" in fall camp. Let's hope we end up 1-1 after this season. I am assuming that the coaches believe that Jalen will be a better QB next year (and +2) than just this year over Blake (AJ, Coker type). The Jalen vs Blake battle was nothing like the AJ vs. Sims in season. Which tells me that coach Saban is trying to evolve, but I am still skeptical with the enormous amount of NFL receiver talent we have on the team that the better armed QB would not be the better choice. I think Jalen won because of preconceived evolving of the offense, but I am not convinced it was needed.

Will eat egg win we win it all.

LOL
 
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