Boogs worried about jhs being surpassed by everybody elses

I still have a hard time grasping the fact that someone would put 87,000
stadium seats around a cow pasture......

ROLL TIDE!!! :BigA:

i don't even comprehend whatever it is that their fans get excited about...enough to make the effort to go to the games down there. if all there was for me to get excited about was a team who wins a national championship an average of once every 114 years, i think i'd just work in the yard on game days.
 
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ehee, I love seeing their pain and make no mistake, that's exactly what it is. This goober would probably have rather had a dentist appointment than to write this column. (Providing he has a need for a dentist.) :D

I especially loved his last paragraph and his lame attempts to prop up their image with jewels of BS like these - "to keep up and grow with the other top programs." and "it's a storied facility." Thinly veiled comments like this are common on their forums as they try to reassure each other of their relevance.
 
No point in adding more seats if they can't sell out their games.

Exactly. Auburn fills capacity about twice a year now, with the other six home games having thousands of empty seats. Hell, their season and conference openers last year had something like 6,000 empty seats. Basically unless they have someone like Alabama, Georgia, or LSU on the schedule, they have thousands of empty seats.

What they really ought to do is expand-via-contraction. Scale the thing back to about 80,000 or so and just make it incredibly nice. The thing about Auburn is that they don't have any issue selling suites, they just cannot sell seats. It's a common-sense solution. Remove seats, add suites.

Of course, though, there's no chance it'll ever happen. With Alabama expanding to 100,000+ with tens of thousands on the waiting list, there is no way they will ever swallow their pride and reduce to where they should be. They'll consistently have a sea of empty seats before they'd ever even consider doing that.

And, actually, truth be told, that is the only reason they ever expanded that much in the first place. Auburn originally expanded to 87,000+ in the late 1980's, for Christ's sake, and never had any need to do so then. At no point in the history of Auburn football have they had the fan base needed to consistently fill an 87,000+ seat stadium eight times a year. They've struggled to consistently fill that place for over twenty years now, even in the glory years of 1993 and 2004. Even with the TV ban in '93 they sold out only one game (Iron Bowl), and they even had empty seats in the stretch run of the '04 campaign where they were firmly in the mix for a national championship.

Again, though, they were always trapped in their little brother need to one-up Alabama. It never had anything to do with legitimately trying to optimize capacity by matching long-term supply and demand. Remember, at the time Legion Field (the real "home" of 'Bama football then) held 83,000, and Bryant-Denny only held about 70,000. So by god we're going to build ours out to 87,000! Who difference does it make if we can ever fill the place up, we've one-upped Alabama, right?
 
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Exactly. They can't find demand for what they have. It's a joke that the stadium is that big anyway, although they do fill it when Alabama, Georgia, or Florida is in town (because of the opposing fanbases).

They'll never upgrade because there's not enough money for it. Alabama's 2 most recent expansions were heavily financed by donations. Auburn could never match that capability. This is another case in a long, long line of cases where instead of being proud of what they have and can do, they pine to be like big brother.
 
I'd be almost willing to bet the farm :smile: that Auburn will eventually add one of those monster Jumbotron screens like Texas has. They know they can't justify adding more seats when they are having such a hard time selling season ticket packages (see recent movie theatre ads), so they'll try to compensate some other way.
 
They'll never upgrade because there's not enough money for it.

No, they could get the money for it. They would have to work a bit harder for it than we had to, certainly, but they figured out how to come up with 100 million for a new basketball arena that will get filled once a decade (probably for a concert), and if they could do that then the money would be there to make upgrades to Jordan-Hare. Of course, that really just underscores how incredibly stupid of a decision it was on the new basketball arena. Either way, the point remains, though, that it's not about finances.

Really, Auburn finds themselves in a pickle on this one. They need to contract, if anything, but the fragile ego will never allow that. On the other hand, the natural inclination is to try to match Alabama and expand on their own, but the problem is they know they don't have the demand to match it. They could go up to 97,000 with an end zone upper deck, but they would also routinely have 10,000+ empty seats, so that's not really a viable option (bad finances plus embarrassing). From their perspective, they really don't have a "good" choice moving forward.
 
Exactly what UTe has done...

True, and it's just about what has been does across the sporting world. You can make just as much money by selling a few boxes as you can hundreds of seats, and it's immeasurably easier to sell a box than hundreds of seats.

Excess capacity becomes a major issue, and in many ways that is one of the major reasons we didn't connect the upper decks at Bryant-Denny. Sight issues notwithstanding, we could have probably added another 4,000 or 5,000 seats that way, but selling that many nosebleed seats with poor sight lines becomes a major problem when the football team isn't lighting it up (like UT in recent years). If anything, it's better to err on the side of caution, and I'm glad our AD found discretion to be the better part of valor.
 
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