Brad Bohannon Fired

[BIGTUSKS]

I don’t think he was “throwing games”. I think he was giving line up and rotation information to a bettor. They sound similar but one is rigging a game and one is giving insider information that the average bettor wouldn’t be privileged to. Aside from the Miss St series I really don’t see a series that Alabama had a substantial advantage in which we were good enough to rig an outcome.

Columbia and the UAB game.

 

[TiderJack]

Columbia and the UAB game.

Speaking of UAB, I think we should strongly consider Casey Dunn. He's a barner grad but grew up Bama.

 

[BIGTUSKS]

Speaking of UAB, I think we should strongly consider Casey Dunn. He's a barner grad but grew up Bama.

Kinda bummed out on barner folks. When we hired Bohannon, he was an asst. at the barn and Bama swept the barn that season with us only having five sec wins. Bohannon improved the program - slowly, but I can only wonder what could have been.

 

[TiderJack]

Kinda bummed out on barner folks. When we hired Bohannon, he was an asst. at the barn and Bama swept the barn that season with us only having five sec wins. Bohannon improved the program - slowly, but I can only wonder what could have been.

I see your point but Casey is a very good coach and is the son of one of the greatest ever to coach baseball. I don't know if his ties with UAB (and the barn) will keep him from being a serious candidate but we could do a lot worse.

 

[Tug Tide]

Unless it’s changed very recently, the UA Athletic Dept won’t waive out of state tuition and that certainly doesn’t help recruiting.

 

[dayhiker]

BTW, the beast is never defeated. Only simply incarcerated for the time being. I’m only one bet away from being right back where I was.

In It Gets Easier, Jason Isbell says...... It gets easier, but it never gets easy. I really enjoy his lyrics.

 

[AUDub]

I see your point but Casey is a very good coach and is the son of one of the greatest ever to coach baseball. I don't know if his ties with UAB (and the barn) will keep him from being a serious candidate but we could do a lot worse.

Man he was on some good Auburn teams under Hal Baird.

 

[crimsonkelly]

Well… Nebraska Football was elite in the 90’s too. Yet people always ignore that things have changed against them and that it takes more than just a snap solution to fix the institution. Firing a coach every 5 years based on an unrealistic record expectation isn’t going to solve the issue. Because if it were the case then Alabama would have never hired Gas, Goff, or Bo, and would’ve had an elite coach already.

Alabama has issues that prevent it from just pushing a check in front of a good ACC coach and say “cash it”. Either play the long game or perform a complete overhaul.

I don't disagree. I just feel that we can be elite again. Take work, absolutely, and not just for the coach, but for the entire athletic department as well. I think it would take using the NIL to our advantage to give kids the money they don't get to come from out of state and the lack of scholarships that are offered to baseball players. Vanderbilt comes to mind how they have handled getting players to campus.

 

[TideEngineer08]

I won't comment too much because I have not followed Alabama baseball since... well, the 1990s.

I'll only say that it kind of blew my mind that Tennessee football had a resurgence this past season. I thought they were dead for a long time yet. But the parameters changed. NIL and the Portal. Without that, I don't think it ever would have happened for them; the deck was too stacked against them. So, there is light at the end of the tunnel now for even a Nebraska when it comes to football.

That being said, I have no idea if anything similar translates to college baseball. I realize NIL is there for all college sports, but how much of that is going towards baseball? The SEC is a an MLB minor league, and Alabama is solidly in the bottom half of that. This scandal is just one of the dumbest things I've seen in a long time and its got to be incredibly disappointing for those who follow the team closely. And so much more so for the players.

 

[81usaf92]

I don't disagree. I just feel that we can be elite again. Take work, absolutely, and not just for the coach, but for the entire athletic department as well. I think it would take using the NIL to our advantage to give kids the money they don't get to come from out of state and the lack of scholarships that are offered to baseball players. Vanderbilt comes to mind how they have handled getting players to campus.

Vandy is like Auburn in that they punch way above their weight class with a coach who they had no business getting. Vandy also has a lottery to back them up and build on, with the lure of getting a degree from one of the best colleges in the country. They really are living off Corbin at this point because they really don’t have the fan base to sustain this for very long afterwards.

Alabama needs to establish a culture to do well. Sure we keep going after big name coaches and maybe with get one to say yes. But having 500 to maybe 1,500 fans in the seat vs a top 5 team isn’t a sign of a great culture. Mississippi St has had two subpar seasons by their high standards and yet still pack the place. Kids want to go to places where the fans are passionate. Yeah we keep saying “if we had a great coach we would pack the place”, but really that isn’t a good strategy long term. Because you are going to take far more setbacks.

Idk what the plan should be, but going to many many games the past 10 years I really don’t see the current tradition of getting the firing squad ready every 3-5 years as a viable way to go. I’m talking about fans online and not the AD. But I firmly believe that if people truly care about baseball… then they should go to as many SEC home series as possible because right now we are showing that we really don’t care about it at all.

 

[81usaf92]

I won't comment too much because I have not followed Alabama baseball since... well, the 1990s.

I'll only say that it kind of blew my mind that Tennessee football had a resurgence this past season. I thought they were dead for a long time yet. But the parameters changed. NIL and the Portal. Without that, I don't think it ever would have happened for them; the deck was too stacked against them. So, there is light at the end of the tunnel now for even a Nebraska when it comes to football.

That being said, I have no idea if anything similar translates to college baseball. I realize NIL is there for all college sports, but how much of that is going towards baseball? The SEC is a an MLB minor league, and Alabama is solidly in the bottom half of that. This scandal is just one of the dumbest things I've seen in a long time and its got to be incredibly disappointing for those who follow the team closely. And so much more so for the players.

I think many people falsely assumed the NIL was going to help Alabama in baseball or fundamentally change baseball. Really all it did was allow the teams that already had a baseball culture pump more money in baseball without fear of the NCAA. At Alabama the 3rd string tackle is still far more known than the ace pitcher, and most likely paid way better in nil donations.

We really have a problem with competing with hope scholarship teams, and teams that have very passionate fan bases. I lived in Omaha for 6 years and saw thousands of LSU and MSU come all six years I was there for the CWS… LSU made it to Omaha 2 times when I was there and MSU made it once.

 

[LittleLexi]

Columbia and the UAB game.

Alot of very questionable moves have been done in every series, except Mizzu and Vandy(fired). I played D1 baseball from 87/88-92/93, trust me, there was betting action all over the place back then on college baseball.

 

[glorydays1990]

Vandy is like Auburn in that they punch way above their weight class with a coach who they had no business getting. Vandy also has a lottery to back them up and build on, with the lure of getting a degree from one of the best colleges in the country. They really are living off Corbin at this point because they really don’t have the fan base to sustain this for very long afterwards.

Alabama needs to establish a culture to do well. Sure we keep going after big name coaches and maybe with get one to say yes. But having 500 to maybe 1,500 fans in the seat vs a top 5 team isn’t a sign of a great culture. Mississippi St has had two subpar seasons by their high standards and yet still pack the place. Kids want to go to places where the fans are passionate. Yeah we keep saying “if we had a great coach we would pack the place”, but really that isn’t a good strategy long term. Because you are going to take far more setbacks.

Idk what the plan should be, but going to many many games the past 10 years I really don’t see the current tradition of getting the firing squad ready every 3-5 years as a viable way to go. I’m talking about fans online and not the AD. But I firmly believe that if people truly care about baseball… then they should go to as many SEC home series as possible because right now we are showing that we really don’t care about it at all.

Missississippi State isnt packing the place of recent. They showed up for Super Bulldog weekend thats about it. More Arkansas fans in the park yesterday than Bulldog.

People will support a winner. Have to find a coach to get us there. Its very possible. The year we played in Hoover set us back, along with a poor head coaching hire. Bo did a good job of getting us back on the map you could say, now its time to take the next step, and hire a coach either proven or up and coming, to take us to the next level.

Very very do-able. As its been done before and done at other programs inside the U of A, and programs outside the U of A, like tennessee for example.

 

[glorydays1990]

I think many people falsely assumed the NIL was going to help Alabama in baseball or fundamentally change baseball. Really all it did was allow the teams that already had a baseball culture pump more money in baseball without fear of the NCAA. At Alabama the 3rd string tackle is still far more known than the ace pitcher, and most likely paid way better in nil donations.

We really have a problem with competing with hope scholarship teams, and teams that have very passionate fan bases. I lived in Omaha for 6 years and saw thousands of LSU and MSU come all six years I was there for the CWS… LSU made it to Omaha 2 times when I was there and MSU made it once.

This is true of everyone in the SEC minus maybe LSU. Corbin has already come out and said that there is no NIL money in his program.

Kentucky baseball isnt getting NIL money
Florida I can assure you baseball is 2nd or 3rd string
The missisisppi schools are complaining of lack of NIL money and trying to have golf tournaments to drum up money
Georgia NIL money inst getting dumped into baseball and the list goes on

We do have an issue scholarship wise without qeustion, but again we've always had this and found ways to win in the past.

Lastly, LOTS of alabama people/fans went to the CWS when Alabama was there in the 90s. If alabama goes back. They'll be there again.

Passionate fan bases outside of football where winning and losing doesnt matter and people will come regardless:
Kentucky Basketball
LSU Baseball
Mississippi State Baseball- But is not on the levels above

Every other program in nearly every other sport in the SEC is going to ebb and flow based on the success of the program. Other teams have won more lately, and Alabama hasnt. Which is why it seems like people arent passionsiate. Put a winner on the field, theyll come.

 

[81usaf92]

Missississippi State isnt packing the place of recent. They showed up for Super Bulldog weekend thats about it. More Arkansas fans in the park yesterday than Bulldog.

MSU breaks the ncaa attendance record

 

[bamamc1]

MSU breaks the ncaa attendance record

During my years at UNA, we played State every year in April. (1986-90). As a team, we always look forward to that game. You could count on 4,500-5,000 at a midweek out of conference game. Unbelievable stadium.

 

[crimsonkelly]

Vandy is like Auburn in that they punch way above their weight class with a coach who they had no business getting. Vandy also has a lottery to back them up and build on, with the lure of getting a degree from one of the best colleges in the country. They really are living off Corbin at this point because they really don’t have the fan base to sustain this for very long afterwards.

Alabama needs to establish a culture to do well. Sure we keep going after big name coaches and maybe with get one to say yes. But having 500 to maybe 1,500 fans in the seat vs a top 5 team isn’t a sign of a great culture. Mississippi St has had two subpar seasons by their high standards and yet still pack the place. Kids want to go to places where the fans are passionate. Yeah we keep saying “if we had a great coach we would pack the place”, but really that isn’t a good strategy long term. Because you are going to take far more setbacks.

Idk what the plan should be, but going to many many games the past 10 years I really don’t see the current tradition of getting the firing squad ready every 3-5 years as a viable way to go. I’m talking about fans online and not the AD. But I firmly believe that if people truly care about baseball… then they should go to as many SEC home series as possible because right now we are showing that we really don’t care about it at all.

Are you aware of the scholarships that Vanderbilt students get from alumni? I worked with a guy the last couple of years that graduated from there and he told me how they do it. It absolutely keeps alumni contributing to the current generation of students and athletes. Granted most of their graduates go on to fairly high paying jobs, and can contribute back. Bama isn't Vanderbilt and like you said they have other forms of monetary help that Bama doesn't have. I agree that running through coaches isn't going to fix anything until you get lucky.

 

[glorydays1990]

MSU breaks the ncaa attendance record

This was Super bulldog weekend.

Its like the A day weekend here except they make sure the baseball team plays at HOME. There was also a concert after ON the field where if you bought a ticket to the game or concert you got into the otehr for free and they were playing OLE MISS

Good marketing. I would imagine we'd get a great crowd if we allowed 1 ticket to get into A-day, Baseball Game, and Concert... plus we were playing AUBURN

This weekend. Outfield was empty. They were giving away tickets. Arkansas had more fans in the park.

 

[Tug Tide]

Are you aware of the scholarships that Vanderbilt students get from alumni? I worked with a guy the last couple of years that graduated from there and he told me how they do it. It absolutely keeps alumni contributing to the current generation of students and athletes. Granted most of their graduates go on to fairly high paying jobs, and can contribute back. Bama isn't Vanderbilt and like you said they have other forms of monetary help that Bama doesn't have. I agree that running through coaches isn't going to fix anything until you get lucky.

Opportunity Vanderbilt provides $1.2 billion in financial aid

In the decade since Opportunity Vanderbilt began, more than 10,000 students have benefitted from the program.

news.vanderbilt.edu

It’s a really great program. I know for a fact that it helps quite a few players each recruiting cycle.

 

[JDCrimson]

Bama baseball is in much a similar place as womens basketball. It has taken CCC going on a decade to get WBB back to a competitive level in the SEC. Its probably going to take 6-8 years to get us back in the top 5 of the SEC.

Vandy is like Auburn in that they punch way above their weight class with a coach who they had no business getting. Vandy also has a lottery to back them up and build on, with the lure of getting a degree from one of the best colleges in the country. They really are living off Corbin at this point because they really don’t have the fan base to sustain this for very long afterwards.

Alabama needs to establish a culture to do well. Sure we keep going after big name coaches and maybe with get one to say yes. But having 500 to maybe 1,500 fans in the seat vs a top 5 team isn’t a sign of a great culture. Mississippi St has had two subpar seasons by their high standards and yet still pack the place. Kids want to go to places where the fans are passionate. Yeah we keep saying “if we had a great coach we would pack the place”, but really that isn’t a good strategy long term. Because you are going to take far more setbacks.

Idk what the plan should be, but going to many many games the past 10 years I really don’t see the current tradition of getting the firing squad ready every 3-5 years as a viable way to go. I’m talking about fans online and not the AD. But I firmly believe that if people truly care about baseball… then they should go to as many SEC home series as possible because right now we are showing that we really don’t care about it at all.