Bama, AU, MSU, and OM all played teams with at least 10 wins and all teams were at the least division champs in their conference. The East teams did not play a single team with 10 or more wins.
the point was the original poster said the east is holding the SEC back . What has been holding the SEC back is the top teir west teams in big bowl games in the last two years. I dont know why people think the east really matters in the nations perception of the SEC. Because if it they did, then the nation would be saying the SEC is pretty good with 7 wins, and they are not overrated with 5 losses all coming from the west. The Alabama and auburn bowl losses from the last two years are more damaging to the SEC's perception than any former power house in the east is.
I see what you were getting at now, and I agree. In fact, I think the East being in the shape they are made West look better than they were this because the West won way more of the cross divisional games.
Well, when the preseason polls come out -- I'm going to bet that your opinion about Bama and Auburn being "more damaging" is wrong....when Bama and Auburn are both ranked pretty high -- Bama in the Top 5.....
You said that they were holding the SEC back, and you are wrong. That was my point.
Absolutely. This kind of goes back to the thread about the cyclical nature of college football. At some point the pendulum swings the other way regardless of a team's or a conference's quality of coaches and players. As I said in another thread; top to bottom the SEC is still the premier conference, but the top 2-3 teams in the other power 5 conferences have closed the gap enough that they can beat the top 2-3 SEC teams which IMO has not been the case in the past 6-8 years.
What do preseason polls have to deal with this. The reputation of the sec has been damaged and it is mostly due to its big dogs losing the last two years. The point is all this malarky of the sec should get in automatically is over. Only a one loss alabama really definitively has that claim. No one has particularly cared about the east with the exception of preventing the sec from being in the championship. The east hasn't won the sec since 08, and they fielded win and their in teams in 09,12,and 13. So the perception of the sec leans heavily on the west. The west managed to lose to nd, gt,tcu, whiskey, and OSU. So the west lost to the big 12, the acc runner up that fsu beat, two from the big 10 in which most people said was dead and overrated, and to Norte dame. Had ecu beat Florida it probably wouldn't be mentioned.So your point for the sec east holding the sec back is not accurate because the west is what people view the sec as.
I glanced through it...just wanted to be sarcastic. It funny seeing people all over Facebook writing off the SEC.
You don't think UF, USCe, and UT are holding the conference back in 2014? I'll give you UGA (maybe) -- but maybe you're used to the B1G 10 -- but those 3 (or 4) teams have been traditional powers of the SEC - and they definitely under performed this year (and for UF and UT for nearly 6-7 years) -- not sure what your definition is -- but if you think I'm wrong about it -- I'm cool with that.....
If (as you said) Bama and Auburn have hurt the reputation of the Conference -- you would think that the change in "perception of the SEC" would be apparent in future polls....that seems to be a logical connection,. But, Bama will be Top 5, and Auburn will likely be Top 15 --
well if this was true then alabama shouldnt have played for the natty in 2011 or 2012 because we played two really bad tennessee teams, a mediocre vanderbilt, and a deflated mizzou team, but yet the perception was the west was a very hard sub division to navigate unblemished. So did the east hold us back????? No people crowed and said under their breath the SEC is still king ; not that they were top heavy. Where the top heavy arguement came was when Bob Stoops was proven right by beating us in the Sugar Bowl and when Winston beat the boogs. No one remebers that Mizzou thrashed Okie Lite in the Cotten Bowl everyone remembers Bob Stoops and Jamies Winston bringing down the SEC. Same thing this year no one remembers UT beating Iowa or Mizzou beating Minnesota (the same team that nearly beat OHIO State), but everyone remembers Urban and Barry Alverez proving the SEC is overrated. The east is not giving the perception that the SEC is overrated it is the West's inability to win marquee bowl games against the Big 12 and the Big 10. So Bama and Auburn are not doing their part, they arent winning in big time bowl games. So dont be suprised if next year the committee keeps the SEC at bay by only allowing the SEC one team in on the final week of the season.
That wasn't mine, but I honestly don't know how to do it from my phone. Do y'all know how to use the blue font from Tapatalk on an iPhone?
