I’ve thought from the get go he was the right hire to navigate the modern world of CFB. It’s different than Saban, obviously, but he will win a lot of games & a conference/national championship here.
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I've not heard that narrative from anyone in recent years...not saying it was not prominent back in 2005-7. What is prominent now is the rumor that CKD does not feel like he "fits" at UA. Part of that is driven by the results on the field and part is driven by him not being CNS. You lose 3 games 2 years in a row and no one wants to hear that we are rebuilding in a different era. They are on social media asking what his buyout would be.
We know that would happen at UM or any top program in today's CFB. I just hope Greg Byrne has a good handle on this situation as there is too much smoke for me to believe that something is not going on.
It rears its head FROM OTHERS (not even Tide fans) when there's not championships left and right. And even then - Saban was moving to Texas from 2011 until about 2016, when everyone decided, "I guess he isn't" - again because of our unrealistic expectations.
You're not wrong that it is much less than it was, say, in 1984 or 2000, but there's always this "Coach X is going to get chewed up by that job, not like the stuff, blah blah blah."
If we lose to OK and that prompts him to leave then he can leave for all I care.
I've had it with all the poaching and transferring and coaches abandoning schools at the 11th hour.
I'm getting close to the point of not even caring at all it's all gotten so stupid.
Meh. I don't think he's going anywhere
I sincerely hope there’s nothing to this and that CKD sticks around. That said, here are the only reasons I can think of that he might make this move:
1) It’s closer to where he grew up, and he spent time as OC about 8 miles down the road in Ypslanti.
2) Courtney Morgan is a UM alum.
3) It’s (arguably) easier to make the playoffs on an annual basis in the B1G.
That’s it. If he leaves, these will be the reasons.
Given his emphatic statement about loving it at Alabama and having zero interest in Penn State, I would be mildly surprised but not shocked to see him have interest in UM - but again, the above reasons are the only things that make sense to me.
Hypothetically, if he were to leave, I would support making Sark and Lanning say “no”. Given that Sark reportedly was considering a jump to the NFL earlier this season, and also his alleged dissatisfaction with the obscene level of booster involvement at Texas, I think there would be a chance that he’d listen to overtures this time. Lanning would be a good hire as well but I’m not sure how interested he’d be.
Absent those two, I’d totally support promoting Wommack. Super likable guy, great recruiter, prior HC experience in the state of Alabama, and a good chance for roster stability.
I hope we don’t need to even have this discussion but those would be plans A, B & C if I were Greg Byrne.
Given that we have a playoff game coming up, if there’s nothing to this IMO DeBoer needs to issue a statement ASAP.
1) It’s closer to where he grew up, and he spent time as OC about 8 miles down the road in Ypslanti.
2) Courtney Morgan is a UM alum.
3) It’s (arguably) easier to make the playoffs on an annual basis in the B1G.
That’s it. If he leaves, these will be the reasons.
Given his emphatic statement about loving it at Alabama and having zero interest in Penn State, I would be mildly surprised but not shocked to see him have interest in UM - but again, the above reasons are the only things that make sense to me.
Hypothetically, if he were to leave, I would support making Sark and Lanning say “no”. Given that Sark reportedly was considering a jump to the NFL earlier this season, and also his alleged dissatisfaction with the obscene level of booster involvement at Texas, I think there would be a chance that he’d listen to overtures this time. Lanning would be a good hire as well but I’m not sure how interested he’d be.
Absent those two, I’d totally support promoting Wommack. Super likable guy, great recruiter, prior HC experience in the state of Alabama, and a good chance for roster stability.
I hope we don’t need to even have this discussion but those would be plans A, B & C if I were Greg Byrne.
Given that we have a playoff game coming up, if there’s nothing to this IMO DeBoer needs to issue a statement ASAP.
I don't know why everyone says DeBoer when everyone already knows it's Cignetti.
I can't see CKD stepping into that cess pool, but stranger things have happened.
This is a new era in the sport, one I increasingly loath and find myself further and further detached from.
I can't help but think about the sanctimonious Big Ten schools talking down their noses at the South and the SEC, how the SEC was built on cheating, etc. All the while everyone knows "bag men" existed with all the major players in the sport. Anyway, now they've changed the rules to make what used to be blatant outright cheating legal and they are behaving like kids drunk on Halloween candy.
I know paying players does not seem to relate to this coaching situation, but to me it does. It's all along the same line of the devolution of the game. I hate it.
This is a new era in the sport, one I increasingly loath and find myself further and further detached from.
I can't help but think about the sanctimonious Big Ten schools talking down their noses at the South and the SEC, how the SEC was built on cheating, etc. All the while everyone knows "bag men" existed with all the major players in the sport. Anyway, now they've changed the rules to make what used to be blatant outright cheating legal and they are behaving like kids drunk on Halloween candy.
I know paying players does not seem to relate to this coaching situation, but to me it does. It's all along the same line of the devolution of the game. I hate it.
I'm already there. I still watch games, but my level of interest has dropped considerably since 2020. The chaos just isn't entertaining to me. I had no idea Bama had the number 2 class until yesterday. Haha!
Total speculation, but Kelly to Mich makes the most sense to me. A quickie wedding to preserve as much of the roster as possible. And for all his faults, Kelly has at least a reputation as a major program coach, and this would take him out of the deep south where he was a bad fit.
Isn't it hilarious how:
- the South is so poor
- they've got so much money they're paying players to go to school their for their football teams
.......kinda sound like the two brain lobes aren't communicating?
The Penn State rumors were never real, just message board and Barstool stuff, the Michigan rumors feel a little bit more real with actual members of the media picking up on it, no doubt they call, or have called CKD, it's up to him to tell them no.
I don't see him leaving, hard to imagine leaving behind a #2 class and an already talented roster for a messy program right now still recovering from the spy scandal now the affair scandal and the possibility of them being without an AD but in the event he does, I'd imagine Byrne is steps ahead and has someone in mind as well, and no it won't be Lane.
I don't see him leaving, hard to imagine leaving behind a #2 class and an already talented roster for a messy program right now still recovering from the spy scandal now the affair scandal and the possibility of them being without an AD but in the event he does, I'd imagine Byrne is steps ahead and has someone in mind as well, and no it won't be Lane.
I don't want to see CKD leave but if he did, what about flipping the script on Georgia and go after Schuman? He's coached at Bama, well saturated in Saban/Kirby physical brand of football, and knows the process well. I think he would be like Lanning in that he would be outstanding.
And it was always going to be different than Saban. Even if Alabama had hired Smart, it was going to be different.
I hear the same crap from my in-laws, and yet they were the ones also questioning Saban every single year until he retired. They are Alabama fans that I absolutely cannot watch an Alabama game with.
My goodness, college football is an absolute mess. The wild west, no enforceable rules anywhere.
I hope DeBoer doesn't leave for Michigan. I think once he gets out of all this transition period and gets his own players and gets everything all his own, we won't have such poor performances like FSU or Georgia or Michigan last year or Oklahoma last year or Vandy last year.
We've messed up along the OL for years now. We need a complete revamp of the entire OL system. I hope DeBoer stays and gets it all in order and blows the doors off the SEC.
I hope DeBoer doesn't leave for Michigan. I think once he gets out of all this transition period and gets his own players and gets everything all his own, we won't have such poor performances like FSU or Georgia or Michigan last year or Oklahoma last year or Vandy last year.
We've messed up along the OL for years now. We need a complete revamp of the entire OL system. I hope DeBoer stays and gets it all in order and blows the doors off the SEC.
Sark would be a great fit and would help keep some of the offensive pieces we have in place currently, in addition to adding more.
I doubt Lanning ever leaves Oregon, the expectations to win a title at Oregon are not as high as other places as they've never won one, so as long as he just wins games there, makes the Playoffs and pulls in top recruiting classes with the money Phil Knight dishes out, he'll be comfortable there.
Just the fact that we're even talking about this is making me sick but I hope that noises can be muted between now and next Friday.
I'm right there with you. In the past my wife knew when college football started I wasn't going anywhere on a Saturday. I missed the AU and SECCG to take her on a trip and it didn't even bother me.
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