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I will give the new guy the benefit of the doubt. I hope it works out. I don't really follow college baseball but I am starting to get more interested in it. I guess the sound of aluminum vs the sound of wood just loses me a bit. 🤷‍♂️. We shall see how the new guy does. Good luck to him and us.
 

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I find it interesting that we didn't roll.with Jackson as HC and brought in a top flight hitting coach. I think we saw in the playoffs and over the.last month of season that offense it what wins games now and translates to deep playoff runs.
 

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What are you basing your opinion on with Vaughn? Seems you keep saying he is from the BIG10 so he can't be any good and he can't recruit. He got players to Maryland that were apparently good enough to win D1 conference championships. I know BIG10 is not the SEC but from what I have read and researched he has a great reputation so I am not going to fire him before he has his introductory press conference.
Just a Pop quiz question…how many SEC teams entered the tournament in 22 and 23 and how many B1G teams entered the tournament in those years? When you get the answer you will see how far the gap actually is and how winning the B1G actually is less of an accomplishment than winning the Sunbelt.

Maryland was viewed as the worst #2 seed in the tournament and is why they were put in Wake’s regional. The SEC had 8 host teams, and had 6 teams advancing to the Supers. Meanwhile the B1G had 3 in total out of 64 teams representing the conference…. 3!!! Last year it was TWO!!! That isn’t a “well I know the B1G isn’t the SEC” that’s a Grand Canyon difference in talent.

Bringing in a 35-44 recruiting class a year ain’t going to cu. Hell it took several years of top 15 recruiting classes to just stay on the field with Florida this year.

At Alabama you are facing way more issues that what the average sit at home casual fan seems to realize. Just being an in game coach will get you killed here. You need recruit and hope other SEC teams with extra scholarship opportunities that actually care about baseball don’t call.
 
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I find it interesting that we didn't roll.with Jackson as HC and brought in a top flight hitting coach. I think we saw in the playoffs and over the.last month of season that offense it what wins games now and translates to deep playoff runs.
You need dominant pitching and situational hitting to win. Had Hess not went down then we probably would’ve survived another game in Hoover and could have potentially won in Winston Salem. Right now Florida and TCU are probably the best teams entering Omaha and it’s because of their deep bullpens and hot streak of hitting.

While we got screwed with our seeding, I honestly don’t know whether it was a blessing or curse that we drew the regional we did. Because there were alot of Misranked #4 and #3 teams in regionals 13-15 that would have gave us hell.
 

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You know in November 1999 their was a team down south who hired a big 10 coach who hadn't done anything, I know different sport, but LSU fans were not to happy and got them going and now we have the greatest coach of all time, I'm not saying this guy is the next Nick Saban but let's give him a chance
 

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I am going to give him a chance but this is still a “we don’t care that much about baseball” hire. Y’all can try to spin winning the B1G as a major accomplishment if you wish, but there is a reason he was getting 300k a year and why he is likely to be the SEC’s lowest paid coach when the ink dries. Bryne got a guy that isn’t going to make demands and a guy that will shut up the vast majority of fans who blow up his email that don’t ever attend a game.

I hope it works but it seems more of the same thing we have done since Wells retired.
 

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I am going to give him a chance but this is still a “we don’t care that much about baseball” hire. Y’all can try to spin winning the B1G as a major accomplishment if you wish, but there is a reason he was getting 300k a year and why he is likely to be the SEC’s lowest paid coach when the ink dries. Bryne got a guy that isn’t going to make demands and a guy that will shut up the vast majority of fans who blow up his email that don’t ever attend a game.

I hope it works but it seems more of the same thing we have done since Wells retired.
well 81usaf92, I see your concerns and they are valid (currently). As far as recruiting goes, I can imagine it is significantly harder to get guys to leave the South to go to a place like Maryland versus stay in your own backyard and go to a power 5 school in the SEC. So, have to wait and see if he can do better. I look at a guy like Bakich at Clemson who was a Michigan before that. He is really good. But he is a good recruiter and coach (assistant to Corbin before Michigan as well). I look for Clemson to become a major power. I am hoping for something like Bakich. Back to Vaughn, he has had some solid offensive guys recently, that is what we need as well. I am optimistic on this hire, was on CBB as well. We need someone that can get us winning those 2-3 games a year that we always seem to look back on and go “that one hurts”.

As far as Wake Forest goes, they are a very good baseball team. I like them a lot. Hope Oral Roberts wins it all though!!!!!
 

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Vaughn is the guy

Well I am not optimistic on this. I fear we will be looking for another coach in 4-5 years after the fans who don’t go to games rebel on him. However it seems that he is trying to keep Jackson.

However I’ll still be one to go to games and hope for the best.
Who do you see as better, and would realistically have come?
 

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Just a Pop quiz question…how many SEC teams entered the tournament in 22 and 23 and how many B1G teams entered the tournament in those years? When you get the answer you will see how far the gap actually is and how winning the B1G actually is less of an accomplishment than winning the Sunbelt.

Maryland was viewed as the worst #2 seed in the tournament and is why they were put in Wake’s regional. The SEC had 8 host teams, and had 6 teams advancing to the Supers. Meanwhile the B1G had 3 in total out of 64 teams representing the conference…. 3!!! Last year it was TWO!!! That isn’t a “well I know the B1G isn’t the SEC” that’s a Grand Canyon difference in talent.

Bringing in a 35-44 recruiting class a year ain’t going to cu. Hell it took several years of top 15 recruiting classes to just stay on the field with Florida this year.

At Alabama you are facing way more issues that what the average sit at home casual fan seems to realize. Just being an in game coach will get you killed here. You need recruit and hope other SEC teams with extra scholarship opportunities that actually care about baseball don’t call.

The SEC, ACC and West Coast always get the pick of the litter in baseball. Maryland has 1 guy from the south on their roster and he was ranked the # 15 pitcher in NC. The # 15 pitcher in Alabama probably goes to Troy or UNA. Keeping Jackon on staff is a huge plus. I am interested in listing to his presser before I cast any judgement on the guy.
 
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Who do you see as better, and would realistically have come?
Offer Butch Thompson 1.5 million and make him say no would be my first move. At best you have probably the best coach in the SEC considering the circumstances at Auburn (the same things that you see at Alabama) and at worst you show Alabama is ready to win and Auburn is sweating and would create an arms race in SEC because you just signaled that you are willing to pay top half of conference for a great head coach. After that you go after a decent SEC, ACC, or Sunbelt guy with 800k- million dollars. Right now I’m more impressed with how Troy’s guy can pull in guys that MSU and guys in PAC 12 country than a guy who won a conference in which no one cares to play baseball.

The main issue that I have with the Vaughn hire is that it signals a severe lack of commitment for the baseball program. What we are pretty much doing is doubling a guy’s salary that no one in country wanted and playing cheap. The hire pretty much reeks of Goff in which he hired a guy that won a few championships at a subpar conference and sold those accolades to the fans as “see we care about baseball” when everyone else in the conference doesn’t even break a sweat at the hire. Granted I don’t get the vibes that he is crazy like Goff, but the hire doesn’t seem like even a double of a type of hire. Alabama paying the lowest salary in the conference with Kentucky shows you they don’t care.

Personally if we were going to have this kind of hire I would’ve stayed with Jackson or went after somebody like Matt Deggs or Troy’s current coach who already have deep recruiting ties in the area if you are going to go cheap. All three are more than realistic solutions and would likely come for the same money that we will likely be paying Vaughn.

I’m going to support Vaughn like I support all of them, and will be one of the few that actually goes to games to support him. But I fear we will be right back here in 4-5 years wondering why the hell we aren’t getting any closer to an Omaha run while Auburn has another one or two. For reference… Butch Thompson’s salary is 1 million dollars vs Bohannan/Jackson at 500k. Tell me which of the two supports baseball?
 

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As far as Wake Forest goes, they are a very good baseball team. I like them a lot. Hope Oral Roberts wins it all though!!!!!
Wake is good but I don’t think they get to the championship round. Playing in a cracker box could hurt them when they all of the sudden play in a huge ballpark like Omaha. Most of those homeruns that they hit against us this weekend are probably dead at the wall and they will be going against better hitters and pitching in game 2 than they have faced all year. What they are truly fortunate to have is that LSU has to play Tennessee game one and will have to burn Skeens. However LSU’s pitching seems to be getting better as the season has gone on.

As far as Oral… Are they Stoney Brook or Fresno. I have no idea but it’s only the third time that a #4 seed has made it to Omaha and one won it all and the other was two and done.

If I were to guess the championship… I would say your best 4 are Florida, TCU, Tennessee, and LSU in that order. Deep pitching wins at Omaha and all 4 have it and have hitters that hit well in huge ballparks.
 
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I am going to give him a chance but this is still a “we don’t care that much about baseball” hire. Y’all can try to spin winning the B1G as a major accomplishment if you wish, but there is a reason he was getting 300k a year and why he is likely to be the SEC’s lowest paid coach when the ink dries. Bryne got a guy that isn’t going to make demands and a guy that will shut up the vast majority of fans who blow up his email that don’t ever attend a game.

I hope it works but it seems more of the same thing we have done since Wells retired.
Byrne is getting a guy that knows how to coach baseball and motivate kids plain and simple. You can downplay the BIG10 championships but he got his players to win championships when playing against comparable competition. Let's see what he can do with a much larger and deeper talent pool coaching at Bama. Your statement he hired somebody that he can pay less and is not going to make demands is ridiculous. You are incredibly mis-guided if you think Byrne made his decision based on your theory.
 
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Byrne is getting a guy that knows how to coach baseball and motivate kids plain and simple. You can downplay the BIG10 championships but he got his players to win championships when playing against comparable competition. Let's see what he can do with a much larger and deeper talent pool coaching at Bama. Your statement he hired somebody that he can pay less and is not going to make demands is ridiculous. You are incredibly mis-guided if you think Byrne made his decision based on your theory.
Do you have any idea what SEC baseball recruiting means. Because this statement makes me feel like you don’t…. Like 90% of the people who comment on Bama baseball. We are basically the baseball equivalent of Nebraska football. Any stud pitcher in state is automatically unavailable to us the second he throws a 98 mph fastball 9.99 X out of 10. 90% of our roster couldn’t start at LSU, Arkansas, Vandy, and the big dogs of the SEC no matter if Rob Vaughn is our coach or if Tim Corbin is our coach. So the talent pool isn’t as plentiful as you seem to think because when a top recruit is getting a 100% scholarship and a lot NIL money to attend Vandy and a 30% scholarship and a very small amount of NIL money from Bama he most likely isn’t choosing Bama even if he has lived in Tuscaloosa his whole life.

Auburn’s baseball culture is the best we could hope for. But it would require a financial investment like Auburn does to achieve it. Alabama is constantly spending the 13th most on their baseball team in the SEC. That isn’t a winning plan.

You have to pay money to win in this league and we have constantly been the ones who pay the least. Simple facts and simple math. Anyone who doesn’t believe that is misguided in their perception of college baseball in a premier league.
 
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Do you have any idea what SEC baseball recruiting means. Because this statement makes me feel like you don’t…. Like 90% of the people who comment on Bama baseball. We are basically the baseball equivalent of Nebraska football. Any stud pitcher in state is automatically unavailable to us the second he throws a 98 mph fastball 9.99 X out of 10. 90% of our roster couldn’t start at LSU, Arkansas, Vandy, and the big dogs of the SEC no matter if Rob Vaughn is our coach or if Tim Corbin is our coach. So the talent pool isn’t as plentiful as you seem to think because when a top recruit is getting a 100% scholarship and a lot NIL money to attend Vandy and a 30% scholarship and a very small amount of NIL money from Bama he most likely isn’t choosing Bama even if he has lived in Tuscaloosa his whole life.

Auburn’s baseball culture is the best we could hope for. But it would require a financial investment like Auburn does to achieve it. Alabama is constantly spending the 13th most on their baseball team in the SEC. That isn’t a winning plan.

You have to pay money to win in this league and we have constantly been the ones who pay the least. Simple facts and simple math. Anyone who doesn’t believe that is misguided in their perception of college baseball in a premier league.
I am an ex D1 scholarship baseball player so I know baseball and recruiting very well. What is your baseball background? You don't seem to understand his recruiting pool is fixing to open wide open now that he is at Alabama. You can be the biggest ogre in the world and act like this was the worst hire in the history of baseball but I am going to be optimistic. You probably thought Oats was a horrible hire since he came from little ole Buffalo and had never been in the SEC and could not possibly recruit. If I am recalling correctly we beat Auburn this season in the series and tourney and they were 0-2 in the SEC tourney and 0-2 in a sub-regional. I am sure you will come back with another negative post but I am out.
 

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I am an ex D1 scholarship baseball player so I know baseball and recruiting very well. What is your baseball background? You don't seem to understand his recruiting pool is fixing to open wide open now that he is at Alabama. You can be the biggest ogre in the world and act like this was the worst hire in the history of baseball but I am going to be optimistic. You probably thought Oats was a horrible hire since he came from little ole Buffalo and had never been in the SEC and could not possibly recruit. If I am recalling correctly we beat Auburn this season in the series and tourney and they were 0-2 in the SEC tourney and 0-2 in a sub-regional. I am sure you will come back with another negative post but I am out.
Actually I was one of the biggest optimists of oats. Might wanna go check the thread that I constantly bring up instead of making accusations out of spite.

if you want to be optimistic then fine. I’m not here to rain on your parade. Remember YOU were the one who quoted me not the other way around. I stated my point based on the reality of the circumstances and effectively presented why I’m not over the moon about it based on something as simple as winning a horrible conference twice in a row. Hell Goff did that, and the same people parading around Vaughn based on conference championships were parading around Goff for the same thing. Vaughn is undisputedly a good coach, but his recruiting is still less than to be desired. Could he change that with Alabama… Sure but it’s far from a given. I’m let down by the hire especially compared to what Georgia just did, but I’m giving him a chance.


I’m still going to be one of the less than 1000 fans who ACTUALLY support this team by going to games instead of the ones who like to just watch at home and want to fire a guy after 3 years. So I see up close and personal of how outgunned Alabama is and the tv doesn’t do it justice.

This is as nice as I can be. I’m done with this type of back and forth. If you wanna argue particular points then fine, but not in the direction that it’s teetering.

rtr and congrats on your D1 scholarship opportunity.
 

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Actually I was one of the biggest optimists of oats. Might wanna go check the thread that I constantly bring up instead of making accusations out of spite.

if you want to be optimistic then fine. I’m not here to rain on your parade. Remember YOU were the one who quoted me not the other way around. I stated my point based on the reality of the circumstances and effectively presented why I’m not over the moon about it based on something as simple as winning a horrible conference twice in a row. Hell Goff did that, and the same people parading around Vaughn based on conference championships were parading around Goff for the same thing. Vaughn is undisputedly a good coach, but his recruiting is still less than to be desired. Could he change that with Alabama… Sure but it’s far from a given. I’m let down by the hire especially compared to what Georgia just did, but I’m giving him a chance.


I’m still going to be one of the less than 1000 fans who ACTUALLY support this team by going to games instead of the ones who like to just watch at home and want to fire a guy after 3 years. So I see up close and personal of how outgunned Alabama is and the tv doesn’t do it justice.

This is as nice as I can be. I’m done with this type of back and forth. If you wanna argue particular points then fine, but not in the direction that it’s teetering.

rtr and congrats on your D1 scholarship opportunity.
Your entitled to your opinion but I'm am an optimist and hence my replies. I only mentioned my baseball background since you implied I knew nothing about baseball recruiting. Glad you are done with it and I am also.
 

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Actually I was one of the biggest optimists of oats. Might wanna go check the thread that I constantly bring up instead of making accusations out of spite.

if you want to be optimistic then fine. I’m not here to rain on your parade. Remember YOU were the one who quoted me not the other way around. I stated my point based on the reality of the circumstances and effectively presented why I’m not over the moon about it based on something as simple as winning a horrible conference twice in a row. Hell Goff did that, and the same people parading around Vaughn based on conference championships were parading around Goff for the same thing. Vaughn is undisputedly a good coach, but his recruiting is still less than to be desired. Could he change that with Alabama… Sure but it’s far from a given. I’m let down by the hire especially compared to what Georgia just did, but I’m giving him a chance.


I’m still going to be one of the less than 1000 fans who ACTUALLY support this team by going to games instead of the ones who like to just watch at home and want to fire a guy after 3 years. So I see up close and personal of how outgunned Alabama is and the tv doesn’t do it justice.

This is as nice as I can be. I’m done with this type of back and forth. If you wanna argue particular points then fine, but not in the direction that it’s teetering.

rtr and congrats on your D1 scholarship opportunity.

I can see where both you guys have valid points about the hire. I too played D1 baseball and was recruited by Roger Smith and Jones Tubb, who was the coach at Shelton State at the time. As a lifelong Bama fan at the time and still am now, my parents and relatives went to Bama in the 50s, it was a dream come true. But I chose a school on the west coast that offered 100% scholarship money.

I personally like the hire after hearing the guy speak. But Bama baseball will always be at a disadvantage from the SEC programs that offer 100% money. LSU started this with lotto money and other programs have followed suit and have become the top of the league programs. Now you throw NIL in the mix and we are destined to be a middle of the row program, no matter what to Vandy, Florida, LSU, SC, TN, ARK and now TX.

The AD dept. has done a terrible job with NIL imo. We all saw this coming, and I feel we are just now getting things going for football. Until we get specific people hired to get money///hound business for specific non-football sports athletes, we will always be middle of the pack. If I am coming out of highschool now, NIL money may be the #1 factor. Leaving school with 6 plus figures and be debt free is a great start to life.
 

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Maryland fan here and just want to point out the silliness in the one fan here criticizing Vaughn's recruiting. Has he seen what Maryland's facilities are especially compared to Alabama's? They're light years apart. Maryland's in state recruiting base isn't great either.

It's like wondering why Nate Oats didn't land top 25 classes at Buffalo.
 
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It's like wondering why Nate Oats didn't land top 25 classes at Buffalo.
If you want to talk about silliness… comparing a head count sport to an equivalency sport is beyond silly. Vaughn is going to have convince a bunch of players to come play for Alabama and pay 50k to 80k upon graduation while Nate oats doesn’t have to convince anyone to pay a dime to come to Alabama. Meanwhile Vaughn also steps into a league where 12 teams have lottery and endowment scholarships and his team doesn’t, where their baseball players don’t have to pay anything or very affordable costs at most. Something he never had to worry at Maryland….
 

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