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Could McCarron win?

In the summer two years ago I heard the coaches were actually higher on Star Jackson starting at QB than McElroy. GMac changed their minds and Star is gone. I think McCarron can run the entire play book plus we have wildcat packages. I would hate to lose Greg but fore once in a long, long while I don't think it would be the end of the world. I would love to see McElroy finish his career undefeated and take a place as one of if not the greatest QBs at Alabama. Think about it, 28-0 as a starter, 2 SEC championships, 2 BCS championships who has done more? He would have to actually do it but there is that possibility. ;)
 
bayoutider said:
In the summer two years ago I heard the coaches were actually higher on Star Jackson starting at QB than McElroy. GMac changed their minds and Star is gone. I think McCarron can run the entire play book plus we have wildcat packages. I would hate to lose Greg but fore once in a long, long while I don't think it would be the end of the world. I would love to see McElroy finish his career undefeated and take a place as one of if not the greatest QBs at Alabama. Think about it, 28-0 as a starter, 2 SEC championships, 2 BCS championships who has done more? He would have to actually do it but there is that possibility. ;)
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Who could ever beat that, unless someone won 3 championships?!:wink:
 
I think we could still survive just because it would be a similar situation to last year with GMac. We won some games last year because of running the ball when the QB needed to be a "game manager" (I don't really like that term).

When the game was on the line against Arkansas last weekend, the ball was put in Ingram's hands to score. I hope we do not see this situation though because we have been winning as a team.
 
Im not a barner or anything. I know ill be accused of not being a true tide fan, but Im not as high on Greg Mcelroy as everyone else here is. I mean ive watched julio jones numbers decline dramitcally from his first year with john parker wilson. There are several times in the game where the best receiver and athlete is wide open streaking down field and he cant get the ball to him. I believe gary from CBS even pointed that out during the Arkansas game. It's a testament to julios abilities that when he gets a guy that can get him the ball downfield it takes the top off of the defense. Look at mccarons first series in the game with julio A SPORTCENTER TOP TEN MOMENT. When Mcelroy is in the game defenses are able to load the box and bang on bamas running backs to much, it hasnt cost the tide yet but with 6 opponets coming off fresh bye weeks against the tide it will take its toll on the backs. Alabamas receiving core is to talented espically the 6'4 4.4 freak to not be getting the ball whens the last time you saw a fade to him in the back corner of the end zone i think ole miss last season. So yeah im not afraid if Mccarron had to step in what he lacks in experience he more then makes up in talent. JUST MY OPINION.
 
2008: John Parker Wilson: 57.89 completion%, 8 ints, 2273 yards, 10 TD's, 122.27 QB rating
2009: Greg McElroy: 60.92 completion%, 4 ints, 2508 yards, 17 TD's, 140.55 QB rating
2010: Greg McElroy: 70.93 completion%, 3 ints, 899 yards, 7 TD's, 178.62 QB rating

Just sayin'...
 
Yeah and im pretty sure maze and hanks were not developed yet when Wilson was still there. I don't think we can argue the fact that Mcelroy has more weapons on offense than wilson could ever dream of. So yeah with two monster backs coming out of the back field a 6'4 field strecher possesions receiver like hanks and a speedster like maze yeah id hope you have better numbers. But its no need to argue the guy is undefeated as a starter and I and the rest of the Mcelroy doubters are wrong until prooven otherwise.
 
Yes McCarron could win, just not quite as often as GMAC. Because I trust this staff to get the best player on the field, if AJ could do all the things Greg does, I have to believe he'd be the starter.

real02 said:
Im not a barner or anything. I know ill be accused of not being a true tide fan, but Im not as high on Greg Mcelroy as everyone else here is. I mean ive watched julio jones numbers decline dramitcally from his first year with john parker wilson. There are several times in the game where the best receiver and athlete is wide open streaking down field and he cant get the ball to him. I believe gary from CBS even pointed that out during the Arkansas game. It's a testament to julios abilities that when he gets a guy that can get him the ball downfield it takes the top off of the defense. Look at mccarons first series in the game with julio A SPORTCENTER TOP TEN MOMENT. When Mcelroy is in the game defenses are able to load the box and bang on bamas running backs to much, it hasnt cost the tide yet but with 6 opponets coming off fresh bye weeks against the tide it will take its toll on the backs. Alabamas receiving core is to talented espically the 6'4 4.4 freak to not be getting the ball whens the last time you saw a fade to him in the back corner of the end zone i think ole miss last season. So yeah im not afraid if Mccarron had to step in what he lacks in experience he more then makes up in talent. JUST MY OPINION.
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McElroy and Julio have had some issues, and I'm not positive what causes them. On the streak routes, JJ often holds up, only to have the ball sail over his head. He needs to run through the deep ball and look the out passes into his hands. I think part of your issue is JJ's development as a reciever, not GMAC's prowess as a QB. We do agree that Julio is a freak athlete.
 
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The thought of this thread is why i would like to see the backup whoever it maybe get at least 1 meaningful series every game. The idea is not to cause controversy but to allow the backups to have game experience and an understanding of playing when things matter.
 
If McCarron were playing I would feel a lot more pessimistic than I do already. I feel like McCarron has the arm to deliver the ball with precision and zip to defeat man coverage. Then again, until you do it in the games it's all debatable.
 
crimsonaudio said:
2008: John Parker Wilson: 57.89 completion%, 8 ints, 2273 yards, 10 TD's, 122.27 QB rating
2009: Greg McElroy: 60.92 completion%, 4 ints, 2508 yards, 17 TD's, 140.55 QB rating
2010: Greg McElroy: 70.93 completion%, 3 ints, 899 yards, 7 TD's, 178.62 QB rating

Just sayin'...
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^^^THIS^^^

Additionally, as much as I love and am appreciative of Julio, the truth is that he has dropped more balls that have hit him in the hands than any of the other WRs on the team. Some of that is due to injuries and some of it is just that every WR drops passes..Julio has had more chances to do so since he has had more passes thrown to him.
Julio has had better numbers this year because he is healthy, because McElroy is a better QB than he was in 2009 and because defenses have to respect the abilities of Maze, Hanks, etc. more than in years past.

At the end of the day, AJM will be fine...just like McElroy was fine last year.
 
real02 said:
Im not a barner or anything. I know ill be accused of not being a true tide fan, but Im not as high on Greg Mcelroy as everyone else here is. I mean ive watched julio jones numbers decline dramitcally from his first year with john parker wilson. There are several times in the game where the best receiver and athlete is wide open streaking down field and he cant get the ball to him. I believe gary from CBS even pointed that out during the Arkansas game. It's a testament to julios abilities that when he gets a guy that can get him the ball downfield it takes the top off of the defense. Look at mccarons first series in the game with julio A SPORTCENTER TOP TEN MOMENT. When Mcelroy is in the game defenses are able to load the box and bang on bamas running backs to much, it hasnt cost the tide yet but with 6 opponets coming off fresh bye weeks against the tide it will take its toll on the backs. Alabamas receiving core is to talented espically the 6'4 4.4 freak to not be getting the ball whens the last time you saw a fade to him in the back corner of the end zone i think ole miss last season. So yeah im not afraid if Mccarron had to step in what he lacks in experience he more then makes up in talent. JUST MY OPINION.
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It's not just in terms of velocity, McCarron seems to deliver the ball with more accuracy as well. I also like what I have seen with his ability to create. Managing the game and extending plays is one thing, but being a weapon in your own right is what gives defensive coordinators nightmares. Staying out of trouble as a strategy only works when you have a suffocating defense -- or a punishing ground game.

Damn.
 
I think AJ may have better physical skills then Gmac, but Gmac has the maturity and experience, and those qualities cannot be overemphasized.
I don't think CNS would be at all anxious about putting AJ in, should something (God forbid!) happen to Gmac. Kid is gonna be a star.
 
I think we would do fine as a team, but a game like Auburn last year would have turned out differently because GMac had gone through the mid-season slump and came out better after it where AJ's head might be spinning being down late (possibly) and on the road.

The good in all of this is that AJ has a great supporting cast in his offensive line and we have some decent running backs to help shoulder the responsibility.
 
twofbyc said:
I think AJ may have better physical skills then Gmac, but Gmac has the maturity and experience, and those qualities cannot be overemphasized.
I don't think CNS would be at all anxious about putting AJ in, should something (God forbid!) happen to Gmac. Kid is gonna be a star.
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Nailed it!!! ^^
 
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EastLAGator said:
It's not just in terms of velocity, McCarron seems to deliver the ball with more accuracy as well. I also like what I have seen with his ability to create. Managing the game and extending plays is one thing, but being a weapon in your own right is what gives defensive coordinators nightmares. Staying out of trouble as a strategy only works when you have a suffocating defense -- or a punishing ground game.

Damn.
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Basically, GMac takes less shots, and thus is less likely to turn it over; CNS thinks with out great running game we don't have to take those unnecessary shots/risks. Would taking more risks benefit us more than hurt us? Possibly so. It would be different if we were scoring on every drive, but as we saw on Saturday, we aren't. So trading a turnover-free game for a couple of more touchdowns would be worth it IMO. I mean GMac still threw two INT's at crucial moments despite not really having a gunslinger mentality.

McCarron would certainly utilize our receivers more. There are always several times a game with Julio is open downfield and either gets overthrown or overlooked completely. I think McCarron possess a much more "go big" mentality. I think that once McCarron gets some more experience he will be the best quarterback Bama has had...in a long time. IMO we'd average a 7-10 points more a game with McCarron starting but that's just my opinion.
 
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