News Article: Deshaun Watson alleged sexual assault grows to seven

[B1GTide]

OJ walked because the jurors did not trust the police - because they had proven to be untrustworthy.

 

[81usaf92]

OJ walked because the jurors did not trust the police - because they had proven to be untrustworthy.

Putting Furhman on the stand and asking OJ to put the glove on were bigger issues than trusting the police.

 

[B1GTide]

Putting Furhman on the stand and asking OJ to put the glove on were bigger issues than trusting the police.

If you say so, but you are not a black person in LA at that time, and they say differently.

 

[selmaborntidefan]

Putting a racist cop on the case, and Ito’s very liberal rulings on evidence and what is admissible had a lot to do with it. But then again Marcia Clark and Darden were both pretty idiotic and were going up against far better lawyers assembled by Shapiro

Mark Fuhrman showed up called in on the middle of the night doesn’t constitute “putting him on the case.” Given the problems Petrocelli had with jury selection in the civil trial, Fuhrman was a gift from the heavens to the defense, but the whole thing never fooled me save for the fact he was more vilified for words he said than the Brentwood butcher was.

I concur on Ito. God what a moron. And the defense sans F Lee Bailey wasn’t even all that smart. The fact Clark and Darden didn’t treat the conspiracy theory with the proper contempt and demolish it was terrible. But that’s another thread and so damn long ago now; Ron Goldman has been dead longer than he was alive.

 

[81usaf92]

I concur on Ito. God what a moron. And the defense sans F Lee Bailey wasn’t even all that smart. The fact Clark and Darden didn’t treat the conspiracy theory with the proper contempt and demolish it was terrible. But that’s another thread and so damn long ago now; Ron Goldman has been dead longer than he was alive.

I still think Shapiro was out of Clark and Darden’s class. Kardashian was just happy to be there. Cochran was just a mouth. I think the underrated one was Scheck. He basically destroyed much of the credibility of the expert witnesses.

 

[81usaf92]

If you say so, but you are not a black person in LA at that time, and they say differently.

You do realize that police still hold an overwhelming advantage in court even in minority communities.

 

[B1GTide]

You do realize that police still hold an overwhelming advantage in court even in minority communities.

This was LA after decades of black deaths at the hands of police, and after the police walked in the Rodney King beating trial. This was the BLM movement's start.

 

[81usaf92]

This was LA after decades of black deaths at the hands of police, and after the police walked in the Rodney King beating trial. This was the BLM movement's start.

You can say that all you want, but Ferguson was far rank with the issue on race, and yet a grand jury of mostly African Americans didn’t rule in favor of Michael Brown. In a community that is far more African American than LA.

 

[B1GTide]

You can say that all you want, but Ferguson was far rank with the issue on race, and yet a grand jury of mostly African Americans didn’t rule in favor of Michael Brown. In a community that is far more African American than LA.

You simply do not understand the dynamics at play in LA at the time. You are straight wrong.

 

[81usaf92]

You simply do not understand the dynamics at play in LA at the time. You are straight wrong.

I understand the Watts riots and the Rodney King riots, just like I understand that juries despite their composition juries overwhelmingly favor the police and prosecution. Something that you are clearly ignoring because it doesnt fit the narrative you want. You dont get a full acquittal based on 12 people's prejudice against the police. If you did then the DA is a DA for allowing the defense to control voir dire

 

[B1GTide]

I understand the Watts riots and the Rodney King riots, just like I understand that juries despite their composition favors the police. Something that you are clearly ignoring because it doesnt fit the narrative you want. You dont get a full acquittal based on 12 people's prejudice against the police. If you did then the DA is a DA.

Agree to disagree.

 

[Bamabuzzard]

Saw last night across the ESPN scrolling marquee that Watson's lawyer has now said he is confident that they can show that 16 of the 22 of Watson's accusers either completely fabricated their claim or lied about actual events.



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[DogPatch]

Saw last night across the ESPN scrolling marquee that Watson's lawyer has now said he is confident that they can show that 16 of the 22 of Watson's accusers either completely fabricated their claim or lied about actual events.

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If true, still leaves 6 . . .

 

[81usaf92]

If true, still leaves 6 . . .

Yeah but if 16 are thrown out then it really makes Buzzbe look like an opportunist. Buzzbe has the court of public opinion now, but he could lose it faster than he gained it. It would probably kill the credibility of those 6 if that many are thrown out. It’s why I said from the start go with your best 3-4 and then pile on after you make serious progress ,and not overload the courts by the filing 22 lawsuits in a week from one lawyer. If there are any more accusers then it would be smart for them to avoid Buzzbe like the plague and get a different lawyer.

 

[Bamabuzzard]

If true, still leaves 6 . . .

I think the strategy of Watson's lawyer is if they can win the "reasonable doubt" component or outright prove that approximately 70% of the plaintiffs' claims are untrue, then the 6 that remain will have a harder legal hill to climb. But I'm not a lawyer so take the above for what it's worth. LOL!

 

[B1GTide]

We will never know the truth unless there is a criminal trial, but I am willing to believe that Watson is scum until it is proven otherwise.

 

[81usaf92]

We will never know the truth unless there is a criminal trial, but I am willing to believe that Watson is scum until it is proven otherwise.

Well this will never go to trial in either civil or criminal court. So this most likely won’t be proven either way.

 

[B1GTide]

Well this will never go to trial in either civil or criminal court. So this most likely won’t be proven either way.

That's my point - at some point you just have to make a call, and my call is slimeball.

 

[81usaf92]

That's my point - at some point you just have to make a call, and my call is slimeball.

Maybe. But I believe innocent until proven guilty, but the court of public opinion is the opposite.

My two cents is that Buzbee got 1 or 2 clients that had some weight to their allegations but not enough to turn a jury. Then he found out that Watson was dumb enough to hire unlicensed masseuses from Instagram and convinced many to get on board with it to apply pressure. It’s a sound strategy going against a celebrity but Buzbee went too far with it and probably costed his clients compensation as soon as Hardin starts shaving claims.

We are basically at the point that this is settled or Watson’s team just drags it out indefinitely or until Buzbee admits defeat because this isn’t going to court unless a Houston criminal grand jury sends this to trial.

 

[B1GTide]

Maybe. But I believe innocent until proven guilty,

You have believed all along that some if not all of these girls were lying, so you too are judging the people involved - you are just judging a different set of people.