Florida loses Will Grier for at least this year
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Chase Goodbread @ChaseGoodbread 1m1 minute ago
So, does Grier get to serve the 2nd half of his suspension while sitting out a transfer year? Or will penalty carry to 2017? NCAA scholars
Good question, anyone know?
So, does Grier get to serve the 2nd half of his suspension while sitting out a transfer year? Or will penalty carry to 2017? NCAA scholars
Good question, anyone know?
Unless he decides to bail on yet another school.
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What's bad for Grier is that he will lose 2 season's, this and next year, because who is going to wait on him for 6 games next year?
Does anyone know if he could sit out a year and regain his eligibility? If he stayed at Florida, this punishment probably grounds him from this years Freshman year and he picks back up as a Junior in 2017, that is harsh.
Does anyone know if he could sit out a year and regain his eligibility? If he stayed at Florida, this punishment probably grounds him from this years Freshman year and he picks back up as a Junior in 2017, that is harsh.
And why losing 6 games next year is harsh. He would be a disruption that McElwain does not need, especially recruiting. Having him sitting on the bench half next season expecting to play later in the season is not good. Bad for him, bad for the QB that is playing, bad for recruiting, bad for a new coach trying to build something. You are right, he needs to move on.
100% right. On three different occasions I have been in the unenviable position of knowing (eye witness) that a friends child was lying. The first time I saw a boy push his sister down the stairs. He said he did not do it, of course. Mom and Dad always said Billy does not lie, so they did not believe the sister. Well, I spoke up and said I saw Billy push her ..... and .... and ..... that was the end of that friendship, they couldn't understand what I "had against Billy, the precious little angel." Years later both parents found out the hard way that precious little Billy did and does in fact lie, to the point he is in prison now.
The other two times I kept my mouth shut. Let them believe they had perfect little angels.
After reading this it looks like the 365 days resets every time he plays a JUCO game during what would have been his 365 day suspension. So basically he can JUCO, but still has to sit out 365 days when he returns to FBS or FCS.
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So no matter what, his suspension has to take time off his eligibility clock? He can't just sit out next year working on his game, not on a team, and come back as a sophomore in 2017.
His suspension is suspended when he is not playing? That is what I am confused about. Trying to figure out what I would advise him if I was his father.
This is harsh penalty for a PED violation, 2 years basically. There are a lot worse things you can do.
Yes. It is 365 day suspension while he is playing at an eligible NCAA school. There is not way to transfer out of this. He can go JUCO and play , but when he transfers back he is suspended for 365 days. If I were his dad, I'd tell him to a FCS school where he thought he could beat the stater. He'd still be suspended the first part of the season, but could play the second half to get some good game film and transfer back FBS if someone was interested.
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So if he went to an FBS he would still be suspended after he sat out a year?
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he is up the creek without a paddle. If it effected one year, fine, but that second year is horrible. It heavily effects 2 season's. Maybe the NCAA will lighten it to just this year. You see a lot of bad conduct that comes no where close to this. You could rob a store and transfer to another school and keep on trucking. There is a stigma with PED's. which I am against, but come on. This ruins his career, one offense.
Using PED's is CHEATING. The punishment fits the offense. Sure, there are some pretty bad criminal things a player can do that are "worse" but we are dealing with keeping a level playing field and what he did is the worst rule you can break.
Yes PED's are and no kid needs them. You can actually have them prescribed to you in the NFL if you have a deficiency in testosterone. And also, people have varying degrees of it naturally, one player could have more natural testosterone than another that takes a small amount. But an 18 year old has up to 4 times the amount as a 40 year old, naturally.
I am not as harsh on them, they do not make you a better athlete, a better batter, dribbler, but they give you additional strength to play harder and withstand and overcome injury and build muscle. I think the media has turned them into a cardinal sin, I believe the amount someone has in their system should be taken into consideration. And one time should not wipe out your college career, that's just my opinion.
The will not, he's already lost his appeal.
PEDs are among the worst offense and have to be treated harshly - the make the playing field uneven for those who refuse to use them, and their use is 100% detrimental to the body. If the NCAA doesn't treat PEDs for the danger to the sport they are, the sport will self destruct in a (literal) arms race where health is a secondary, if not terry concern.
He knew the rules and willingly violated them in the worst possible manner. This isn't a cash payment or a new car, he's literally hurting his body long term for a short term advantage - if the NCAA won't deal with that harshly, everyone will have to do it.
Feel sorry for him? Don't. He made the stupid choice, and part of being an adult is living with and learning from the consequences of your bad decisions. At least other athletes don't have to risk their own health in order for the playing field to be even...
When you follow it through, you are absolutely correct. It has to be checked or it will end up the le tour de france. I am assuming that a lot of players were using them in the late 80's early 90's. I was prescribed testosterone for a few months a couple of years ago to offset something, and I felt like I was 20. Bad news is your body will stop making things naturally if you introduce it artificially, so I had a huge crash for a month. The difference in energy was extreme. Some athletes will take normally prescribed amounts but some of those freak wrestlers will take up to 20 times the prescribe amount, that is where the roid rage comes into play.
I agree, it is cheating
Why not just stay at UF next year and graduate and then he could transfer and play immediately as a graduate transfer..
And he can take all the PED's he wants for endurance for those late night studies with no tests!
Good news for him, he can go the Joe Flacco route, to a school like Delaware(FCS), and the scouts will still evaluate him fairly, and also nearly guarantee himself that he will play. He could end up in an aTm situation and his career is blown. He really messed up. He better make a good choice.
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