"Former infractions chairman critical of Alabama probe" - B'ham News Article

[Texas Tider]

Re: "Former infractions chairman critical of Alabama probe" - B'ham News Article

Why are some of you saying that Swank's testimony will just be ignored by the national media. Do the national media services have some sort of conspiratorial relationship with the NCAA that would cause them to ignore this testimony? Seems to me that most media outlets are always looking for 'the big one' and it wouldnt matter who it was about.

I don't believe there is any media conspiracy against Alabama or anything, but I do think this will be ignored just because I'm not sure anyone cares except for Alabama fans. I think in the media's eyes the sanctions happened too long ago to do a kind of follow up story on it.

 

[CapitalTider]

Re: "Former infractions chairman critical of Alabama probe" - B'ham News Article

I don't believe there is any media conspiracy against Alabama or anything, but I do think this will be ignored just because I'm not sure anyone cares except for Alabama fans. I think in the media's eyes the sanctions happened too long ago to do a kind of follow up story on it.

Exactly! It's not a conspiracy, it's just that everyone else has moved on and thinks it's old news. The lawsuits have drug on so long that I doubt even that many people in Alabama really care anymore, much less the rest of the nation. I think most non-Alabama fans view it as Alabama fans still complaining about sanctions we deserved. This trial will do nothing to change that, just like the other trials.

 

[tuck]

Re: "Former infractions chairman critical of Alabama probe" - B'ham News Article

I don't believe there is any media conspiracy against Alabama or anything, but I do think this will be ignored just because I'm not sure anyone cares except for Alabama fans. I think in the media's eyes the sanctions happened too long ago to do a kind of follow up story on it.

I guess I see your point. I mean come on...whats more important than Alabama football? :cool2:

 

[TIDE-HSV]

Re: "Former infractions chairman critical of Alabama probe" - B'ham News Article

What's puzzling me is that there's nothing new in anything he's said. It's been known now for years. It's been here on this board and others and Cecil Hurt has devoted several columns to it. The single thing new about it is that Swank (whom I detest for punishing Bama to get back at Hootie) is now saying it...

 

[Crimson Speed]

Re: "Former infractions chairman critical of Alabama probe" - B'ham News Article

Exactly! It's not a conspiracy, it's just that everyone else has moved on and thinks it's old news. The lawsuits have drug on so long that I doubt even that many people in Alabama really care anymore, much less the rest of the nation. I think most non-Alabama fans view it as Alabama fans still complaining about sanctions we deserved. This trial will do nothing to change that, just like the other trials.

I agree with you. Regardless of the outcome of the trial, UA has no interest in opening this can of worms.

 

[BocaLance]

Re: "Former infractions chairman critical of Alabama probe" - B'ham News Article

Nothing new or novel about anything he said. I guess maybe he just finally grew a conscience ... and a pair. On the other hand, anybody have any new information on the book scandal that is keeping five of our players off the field?????? Maybe I've missed something over the last few days.

 

[BAMAHD]

Re: "Former infractions chairman critical of Alabama probe" - B'ham News Article

I agree with you. Regardless of the outcome of the trial, UA has no interest in opening this can of worms.

I agree, and i don't think the NCAA has any interest in returning for along time.

 

[IH8Orange]

Re: "Former infractions chairman critical of Alabama probe" - B'ham News Article

Why are some of you saying that Swank's testimony will just be ignored by the national media. Do the national media services have some sort of conspiratorial relationship with the NCAA that would cause them to ignore this testimony?

The national media is the group that took off and ran with the entire Means story to begin with. There was little questioning or doubt by the media because many of them already had a prejudiced view of Alabama and SEC football programs as "football factories" that had few scruples in their single-minded pursuit of athletes that could be exploited for the entertainment of racist southern whites. The journalist at the Commercial-Appeal was able to play the rest of the national media with no effort because there was no resistance whatsoever.

There's little chance that the prejudice has changed, so I think that it is likely that any exonerating stories will appear in any news sources outside of Alabama and perhaps a few neighboring states. Those from other regions don't want to consider that their stereotypes are mistaken, so they'll just ignore any evidence that contradicts them.

 

[NationalTitles18]

Re: "Former infractions chairman critical of Alabama probe" - B'ham News Article

Wow. Quite an admission. Not that it does an good NOW.

 

[SweetHomeAlabama]

Can the National Media ignore this?

"Swank suggested the date of the document was changed in order to keep the allegation within the statute of limitations for reporting NCAA violations, one more example of how the NCAA enforcement staff "got the information it wanted."



http://www.al.com/sports/birminghamnews/index.ssf?/base/sports/1194599738245400.xml&coll=2

 

[atlbamafan02]

Re: Can the National Media ignore this?

They will ignore it because its Bama. It goes to show the level of deception the NCAA went through during their investigation. Did he testify during the Cottrell case?

 

[Bama1970]

Re: Can the National Media ignore this?

The media may ignore it, but i'll bet compliance officials at other schools won't. They won't roll over and play dead or cooperate like we did if all this is true because it shows that if the NCAA wants to get you, they will stop at nothing to do it. They'll lawyer up and fight to the death against the NCAA from now on. Thats what we should have done.

 

[BFANLC]

Re: Can the National Media ignore this?

Yes. I think there is another thread already discussing this.

 

[Crimson Surfer]

Re: Can the National Media ignore this?

Apparently they can ignore this. I doubt this trial will see the light of day unless something earth shattering comes out of it. No one in the national media wants to defend Alabama or clear their name.

The are two things that come have come through loud and clear to me about this whole Culpepper, Fulmer, NCAA, Young, Keller, Smith, Means, Cottrell, Williams, UA mess.

1. The NCAA was out to get Alabama.
2. Alabama did a horrible job of investigating the allegations and defending the University and their coaches.

And horrible is putting it as nice as I can.

 

[bamanut_aj]

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[legaltider]

Re: "Former infractions chairman critical of Alabama probe" - B'ham News Article

when i get out of law school, i want to get a job with the ncaa and bring it down from the inside. by doing that, i would objectively investigate all violations of all schools in the same light. none beat bama with a stick and extend an olive branch to USC crap.

 

[quince]

Re: "Former infractions chairman critical of Alabama probe" - B'ham News Article

I guess my question is this: Swank, or the article at least, didn't mention much regarding the Means portion of the investigation; so were we "severely" punished for the things he mentioned regarding Smith, Locke, Carroll, etc?
To be honest, most people only bring up Means when they speak of our most recent probation, but these other allegations seem to have SEVERELY impacted Swank's view of the whole proceedings...interesting.

The Means portion of the case isn't relavant to the Keller case in that he never was linked to Means. If you read the article where Fullmer apparently had "prior knowledge" of a wreck that was to happen a year after his recollection it is clear that the entire investigation (and the sequence of non-corroborated stories, innuendo & inaccurate information the NCAA used to hammer us) was flawed at best. Why would we even think the Memphis/Means portion was handled any better?

 

[THE BAMA IRISHMAN]

Re: "Former infractions chairman critical of Alabama probe" - B'ham News Article

The evils of the NCAA have been exposed and damage control isn't necessary because its behind us now. As long the the Cowardly presidents of the Universities and Colleges stay silent then the NCAA can make it up as they go. Speaking out against the NCAA without the support of the other college presidents is a death penalty. :BigA:

I forget who the NCAA works for? :BigA:

 

[tuck]

Re: "Former infractions chairman critical of Alabama probe" - B'ham News Article

What's puzzling me is that there's nothing new in anything he's said. It's been known now for years. It's been here on this board and others and Cecil Hurt has devoted several columns to it. The single thing new about it is that Swank (whom I detest for punishing Bama to get back at Hootie) is now saying it...

Thats why I think this story is important. No one would believe someone who has Alabama ties when this was all pointed out a while back. Swank is no friend of Alabama and he was responsible for punishing us, so the fact that he is now saying the way this was handled by the NCAA gives the story a sense of credibility that people on the outside can believe with out thinking there is some hidden agenda. Like many have said, its probably too little too late, but at least its out there now. Maybe we'll luck up and someone will report on this. Anyone have Rece Davis' phone number or email. He might be able to get this story out on College Gameday or something.