Gene Marsh
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Before you vote Gene off the island, you better make sure it's a good thing to do so.
We really don't know enough about what really went on to cast a good vote.
I believe, in time, we will know more about Gene's role.
We really don't know enough about what really went on to cast a good vote.
I believe, in time, we will know more about Gene's role.
I agree with TiM and bayou. Plain and simply put, there is too much murkiness to this whole mess to know how well he handled things.
What purpose would alienating him now do? We can't redo past wrongs, but I am pulling hard for Gallion and company to bring out in the open the misdeeds of the conspirators.
We'll pay UT back on the field!
:biga2: ROLL TIDE ROLL :biga2:
We'll pay UT back on the field!
:biga2: ROLL TIDE ROLL :biga2:
Bamalaw92 said:
Exactly!
I'm telling you, we don't know thw whole story in this. Gallion is not stupid, and he wouldn't drop Gene from the suit if there wasn't a reason.
Talk about a conflict of interest!!!
First Gallion drops Gene Marsh from the suit so that Gene could testify on behalf of Team Cottrell...however, now that Gene is teh Chairman of the NzAA's infractions committee, how does his testimony go? He's damned if he does and damned if he doesn't.
I don't envy Gene one bit, but also don't like how naive he was during the NzAA crap!
First Gallion drops Gene Marsh from the suit so that Gene could testify on behalf of Team Cottrell...however, now that Gene is teh Chairman of the NzAA's infractions committee, how does his testimony go? He's damned if he does and damned if he doesn't.
I don't envy Gene one bit, but also don't like how naive he was during the NzAA crap!
I agree that we don't know enough about what went on. My gut feeling is that both he and Marie Robbins acted in good faith. I don't believe that either of them tried to hurt the University of Alabama. That's just my opinion because like most everyone else, I have no way of knowing.
Too many details about what happened remain murky and, without an insider's view, there's no way to make an informed decision. The same goes for members of the coaching staff.
Too many details about what happened remain murky and, without an insider's view, there's no way to make an informed decision. The same goes for members of the coaching staff.
First, Gene could do that regardless of whether he was in the suit. Sometimes the best defense (and definitely in this case) is to blame a co-defendant. If there is hard evidence that Gene "sold out" RC or IW I GUARANTEE you that Gallion would not have dropped him. The NCAA lied to and punk'd Marsh and Robbins just like they did Bama. Gene and Marie are paying the price for being honest, trusting and acting with class with an organization that understands none of these things. Maybe it was extremely naive on their part, but I do not think for an instant (knowing both of them very well) that they didn't always think what they were doing was 100% in the best interests of Alabama. Monday morning lawyering is like Monday morning quarterbacking - it is easy in hindsight to criticize a play call.Alanbama27 said:
G M Traitor
I have believed from the start that G M's advice was selling out AL to make him look good to the Ncnazis.....well look where he is now....moving on up.The evidence is starting to mount that his advice had a motive to it and now we are paying dearly.
drjamesm :mad2: :mad2:
I have believed from the start that G M's advice was selling out AL to make him look good to the Ncnazis.....well look where he is now....moving on up.The evidence is starting to mount that his advice had a motive to it and now we are paying dearly.
drjamesm :mad2: :mad2:
Didn't he waive the secret witness rule?
Isn't that like waiving poision fruits of an illegal search.
That is not protection reflective of an aggressive and serious defense.
With the NCAA, you must fight them like your life is on the line. These cowards will bury you if you let them.
Isn't that like waiving poision fruits of an illegal search.
That is not protection reflective of an aggressive and serious defense.
With the NCAA, you must fight them like your life is on the line. These cowards will bury you if you let them.
No, he only waved it for the particular purpose of finding out what the NCAA had (Interestingly, they hid 95% of it even with the supposed "waiver"). That was the NCAA's argument that he waived it for prosecution purposes. I find it ironic that the majority of Alabama fans take the NCAA's position as truth when the University denied this at both the hearing and appeal level, but with the NCAA calling the shots, they got snookered into an untenable position by an organization that preyed upon their trust, honesty, and class. To believe that Gene Marsh "sold out" the University is to believe the NCAA. Again, mistakes are very easy for all the Monday morning lawyers to point out in hindsight.Capstoner said:
Again, why do you think Gallion dismissed him from the suit if the evidence is "mounting" that his advice was for personal gain that in turn ijured Cottrell and Williams?? It would be foolish of Gallion to dismiss him if the evidence is as clear as you suggest. Did he make a tactical error? yes. Was it his intention to "sell out" the University to move himself up the ladder? Absolutely not.drjamesm said:
BL you missed my point...I wasn't saying that Marsh or Robins...
Did anything wrong, just that he is now in a pickle and it seems as though he's in a NO WIN situation. I agree that the NzAA lied to both he and Robins and they acted on good faith. However, he can't win in this situation. "IF" he testifies as expected on behalf of Team Cottrell, he is in effect testifying AGAINST his NzAA collegues! That's all I was saying. He has to work with both groups and it will be difficult to stair Tom Yaeger or Rich Johannigmier in the face if he is calling them both under handed liers.
Bamalaw92 said:
Did anything wrong, just that he is now in a pickle and it seems as though he's in a NO WIN situation. I agree that the NzAA lied to both he and Robins and they acted on good faith. However, he can't win in this situation. "IF" he testifies as expected on behalf of Team Cottrell, he is in effect testifying AGAINST his NzAA collegues! That's all I was saying. He has to work with both groups and it will be difficult to stair Tom Yaeger or Rich Johannigmier in the face if he is calling them both under handed liers.
Why make the new infractions cheif angry? We have had enough people in that place against us already. At least we can keep an eye on him possibly...
Gene Marsh's promotion to Chair of the Infractions Committee was scheduled almost 2 years ago...before all of this started...just like his successor is scheduled now (Nebraska's member of the Infractions Committee will be the next chair in September of 2006).
This is a position that rotates every two years.
I, for one, am looking forward to having someone like Marsh in charge. Yeager wasn't prepared. He was immature. His lack of personal control may have shaped his "message" he was trying to send Alabama.
Gallion would not have dropped Marsh if he wasn't satisfied that Marsh didn't do anything to hurt the University of Alabama.
First of all, he'll be in charge.
Secondly, his testimony will be about what he was told and when he was told it. Gallion will handle cross-examining Johanningmeier to determine if he was telling the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.
I don't think Yeager was involved, other than being fed incorrect information and being too immature for the position of power he was placed in.
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