There is no chance I'd take the Saudi's money, period. Guarantee or not. I rather die broke than take the Saudi's money.
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I agree...but you have to understand that many of these players are like Talor Gooch who played at OK State. He said, "I don't understand politics; I just hit a small ball into a small hole and get paid for it." (Rory may be the most educated of all and he did not go to college.)
Or, they could have the view of many politicians: there's no such thing as "dirty" money.
The times they are a-changing -- all over the sports world -- and only the future will tell us if it is for the good or not.
All the players going to the LIV have officially been suspended by the PGA.
Sorry Padre, there is no justification for selling your soul to a regime with severe human rights violations on their resume. If you can't make money on the PGA (or their PGA European Tour) then you are probably not good enough to continue to play pro golf.
Sorry Padre, there is no justification for selling your soul to a regime with severe human rights violations on their resume. If you can't make money on the PGA (or their PGA European Tour) then you are probably not good enough to continue to play pro golf.
It’s like taking money from Satan. The Royal Family are MINO- they don’t practice anything their “faith” teaches. They rule by bribery; ignorant people don’t care where the money comes from when it’s given to them.
Rory is 100% correct; decisions made solely on money (and please, DJ wasn’t worried about being able to feed his kids) and it’s acquisition seldom turn out the way one expects.
You sell cars for Ford; think your boss will be OK with you moonlighting as a Chevy salesman?
Yeah but the PGA is not controlled by the U.S. government like LIV is with Saudi Arabia. Big difference.
Got a ton of money for the 126th ranked player in the world...he was really good and played a heck of a Masters a few years ago...but a non-factor now.
Interesting column by Thomas Friedman on the Saudi's and golf:
Notes on US Open:
1. Colin Morikawa leads at -5. Cut is +3 (146) which is the lowest in US Open history.)
2. The course is playing tough...requiring ball control and not length for the most part. It is beautifully groomed and an historic layout.
3. Lots of rumors about players who are going to LIV after this tournament...I'll not share these. Some have denied it...seems that it's hard to walk away from 50-100 million.
4. The big question about that is whether these can get OWGR points for their 54 hole tournaments -- current requirement is 72 hole by a sanctioned tour. If they cannot get these then their days of playing in majors will run out in at most 3 years or so.
5. NBC is greedy -- trying to push viewers to sign up for Peacock rather than show all on The Golf Channel -- which they own -- or NBC. I've about had it with them...
1. Colin Morikawa leads at -5. Cut is +3 (146) which is the lowest in US Open history.)
2. The course is playing tough...requiring ball control and not length for the most part. It is beautifully groomed and an historic layout.
3. Lots of rumors about players who are going to LIV after this tournament...I'll not share these. Some have denied it...seems that it's hard to walk away from 50-100 million.
4. The big question about that is whether these can get OWGR points for their 54 hole tournaments -- current requirement is 72 hole by a sanctioned tour. If they cannot get these then their days of playing in majors will run out in at most 3 years or so.
5. NBC is greedy -- trying to push viewers to sign up for Peacock rather than show all on The Golf Channel -- which they own -- or NBC. I've about had it with them...
Of course it is, regardless of where the money is coming from.
The money grabs by the networks and their streaming services is getting ridiculous. CBS seems to be doing the same with Paramount Plus.
Matthew Fitzpatrick wins the US Open -- great win for a fantastic player from Sheffield, England. It's a steel production town and he's not a silver spoon kid. He hit 17/18 greens in regulation...unheard of on a tight course like this. He also worked hard over the last 4-5 years to gain up to 40 yards in driving distance. Very humble and soft-spoken...quite the antithesis of the image of a professional golfer. The last round was a spectacular battle between 5 golfers -- something LIV golf will not have as they only play 54 holes in a shotgun start.
Tough loss for Will Zalatoris...he's now finished 2nd in 4 majors...1 stroke back. Classy guy as well...
Tough loss for Will Zalatoris...he's now finished 2nd in 4 majors...1 stroke back. Classy guy as well...
I know the PGA would disagree, but this type of drama in pro golf really isn't a bad thing for the sport overall.
www.espn.com
Sources: Koepka latest to leave PGA Tour for LIV
Four-time major champion Brooks Koepka is the latest golfer to defect from the PGA Tour to the LIV Golf Invitational Series, sources have confirmed to ESPN.
www.espn.com
It sounds worse than it is....you have 2 players in the top 25 -- DJ and Koepka -- both of whom are sliding downhill and really don't want to put in all the work to keep up with the new kids week in and week out. Otherwise you have the "over the hill gang" who rarely threaten to win on the PGA Tour. There are some decent younger players -- they are trading future earnings and legacy for money today. Word is that Talor Gooch is already regretting his decision.I know the PGA would disagree, but this type of drama in pro golf really isn't a bad thing for the sport overall.
Sources: Koepka latest to leave PGA Tour for LIV
Four-time major champion Brooks Koepka is the latest golfer to defect from the PGA Tour to the LIV Golf Invitational Series, sources have confirmed to ESPN.
There will be more...but as long as they are not top 10 or 15 players, it will not matter. The PGA Tour will step up and figure out a way to pay players more...they are sitting on a billion dollars in the bank.
Here's a link to a really good podcast by Michael Isikoff on the sordid nature of the Saudi regime.
The Open is here -- and it promises to be special. Ground is hard and fast...links golf at it's best. Here's a pic making the Twitter rounds today...
Great Open...Cam Smith has an incredible short game...his hands are fantastic.
BTW, 2 UA alum are really trending up on the PGA Tour: Davis Riley and Trey Mullinax. Riley has not won, but has numerous top 10's and is trending well... Mullinax is 30 and has persevered to where he won this year and then made an overnight trip to St. Andrews where he played in the Open. Made the cut on the number and then played his way into a tie for 21st. Combine them with JT and Bama is well represented on the tour...there was even a Michael Thompson showing last week!!!
BTW, 2 UA alum are really trending up on the PGA Tour: Davis Riley and Trey Mullinax. Riley has not won, but has numerous top 10's and is trending well... Mullinax is 30 and has persevered to where he won this year and then made an overnight trip to St. Andrews where he played in the Open. Made the cut on the number and then played his way into a tie for 21st. Combine them with JT and Bama is well represented on the tour...there was even a Michael Thompson showing last week!!!
It's really hard not to pull for him since he's such a good person as well as golfer. However, that golf ball doesn't know anything about that...
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