Grubb to be next OC at Bama per ESPN

[Rocky Mtn Bob]

I'm even more excited for next season than I was before...!

 

[KrAzY3]

His Washington team is what I'm going by when I say 60/40.

I calculated the actual rate of handing the ball off going back to Indiana. I don't think he actually hit 40% any year. It's obscured by QB scrambles/runs, and for instance in the case of Penix that would be a passing play that turned into a sack or a scramble. It ends up looking like they were drawing up more running plays than they actually were.

So, going by his years as a head coach and OC, I'd be pretty comfortable saying he's at about 35% handing the ball off. I saw this at Fresno St., Indiana, Washington and even Alabama last year once you calculate actual handoffs. He doesn't hate handing the ball off, but he doesn't mandate it either.

I really looked these numbers up in part as a defense of Grubb at Seattle. When people were complaining he only handed off 35% of the time, I was like wait isn't that just how the offense tends to work? And each place I checked I came up with the same thing (I think it was 32-38%). Unless something major changes you are never going to see a DeBoer team handing the ball off like most of those championship Alabama or Georgia teams.

I just wanted him to have a chance to succeed though. If this is going to work, it's going to work next year and I really hope it does.

 

[countrytider]

I don’t see how this can be construed as anything other than a fantastic hire. We can “what if” it to death…but it sure beats the alternative of Nick Sheridan calling plays this upcoming season.

 

[Bama Lee]

I was in Seattle for a bit, and looked at both buying and renting a house. The cost difference for housing alone, was far more expensive than Alabama, and certainly well more than 5%. In many cases, you'd pay twice as much for the same size home, and sometimes even thrice as much. That is ultimately why I decided against it

Don’t forget that there is also a sizeable property tax that makes the no income tax possible

 

[gtgilbert]

I don’t see how this can be construed as anything other than a fantastic hire. We can “what if” it to death…but it sure beats the alternative of Nick Sheridan calling plays this upcoming season.

Sheridan, just like Rees before him, did the best he could with the parts he had. Neither could really call the plays they would have wanted, and many times when they called exceptionally good plays and had WRs running wide open, the play still fell apart. I like the Grubb hire, but I think even if Sheridan were the play caller next year, we would see a vastly, vastly different offense.

 

[tideindc]

Bottom Line. Is there any better OC candidate in the world , to join CKD, than Grubb? No. End of story . We have no idea how long he’ll stay etc etc. Living here in DC near Reagan airport, we were recently.reminded that we have no idea if we’ll be alive tomorrow.
. It’s a home run hire.

 

[countrytider]

Sheridan, just like Rees before him, did the best he could with the parts he had. Neither could really call the plays they would have wanted, and many times when they called exceptionally good plays and had WRs running wide open, the play still fell apart. I like the Grubb hire, but I think even if Sheridan were the play caller next year, we would see a vastly, vastly different offense.

I’m sorry but 12-2, SEC Champs is much better than 9-4. Several games last season Rees was able to make adjustments. As far as I’m concerned, the next adjustment Sheridan makes will be his first.

I don’t care what the overall numbers say, we didn’t have outputs of 17, 3, and 13 all in losing efforts with not one single adjustment on offense. There was no reason to believe Sheridan was going to be any better next season, Milroe or not.

 

[CrimsonTitles]

I’m sorry but 12-2, SEC Champs is much better than 9-4. Several games last season Rees was able to make adjustments. As far as I’m concerned, the next adjustment Sheridan makes will be his first.

I don’t care what the overall numbers say, we didn’t have outputs of 17, 3, and 13 all in losing efforts with not one single adjustment on offense. There was no reason to believe Sheridan was going to be any better next season, Milroe or not.

No reason to believe he wouldn't be any better, either. Our record is not proof that Rees fared any better than Sheridan. The SEC was down in 2023. That was not the case in 2024, which is why the SEC cannibalized each other. While there were no elite teams, the SEC was as deep as its been in years, so it's difficult to compare the records at face value. It also comes down to matchups. In 2023, we really didn't face any defenses in the regular season other than Texas who had the personel to shut Milroe down. It wasn't every team. It was only certain teams.

Also, the main problems with Milroe in 2024 were his interceptions and fumbles . Those are what did us in. It wasn't "lack of adjustments". In 2023, he was able to cut down on interceptions, simply by not throwing the ball at all, often taking a sack. I'd say the biggest difference between 2023 Milroe and 2024 Milroe is that he took a whole lot more chances in 2924. I'm not saying he shouldn't have, but this is what you get when you have a QB who can't read a defense. It's a lot easier to grind out a win when the QB isn't committing a turnover on every drive. Milroe turned the ball over 9 times in the last 3 games just by himself. What's Tommy Rees going to do about that?

I think we're overstating the impact of the OC here. Regardless of who is calling the plays, it is still DeBoer's offense. That will be the case whether Grubb, Sheridan, or someone else is the OC. This hiring of Grubb would be like Saban hiring Jeremy Pruitt to be the DC. When you have a chance to hire the best, you definitely have to go get them, but it's still DeBoer's offense, first and foremost.

 

[gtgilbert]

I’m sorry but 12-2, SEC Champs is much better than 9-4. Several games last season Rees was able to make adjustments. As far as I’m concerned, the next adjustment Sheridan makes will be his first.

I don’t care what the overall numbers say, we didn’t have outputs of 17, 3, and 13 all in losing efforts with not one single adjustment on offense. There was no reason to believe Sheridan was going to be any better next season, Milroe or not.

We've beat this horse enough, but Sheridan made adjustments quite a bit. Often 10 guys on the field executed it correctly. Would Sheridan win the assistant coach of the year award in 25? I dunno. maybe not. We just can't judge him based on the 24 season due to limitations way outside of his control.

 

[countrytider]

I can agree to disagree guys. Roll Tide.

 

[bamaslammer]

I don't know how to grade what Sheridan did. Milro's on was great but his off was pretty much a death wish to the game. In fact I knew by drive 3 if we we had a chance. In my opinion Milro would have ended up a much better QB if they benched him in those cases and we would now be entering spring with a QB who had at least some game experience. But that opportunity is gone. I'm hoping that going forward with Grubb the goal will be to win the games, not make players happy. They get paid now, they can be happy driving their sports car around campus.

 

[AlexanderFan]

Sheridan, just like Rees before him, did the best he could with the parts he had. Neither could really call the plays they would have wanted, and many times when they called exceptionally good plays and had WRs running wide open, the play still fell apart. I like the Grubb hire, but I think even if Sheridan were the play caller next year, we would see a vastly, vastly different offense.

How this point escapes people is beyond me.

 

[BamaMoon]

Man, some of you must worry about the hole in the doughnut as you eat it!

I'm not sure how anybody could read any negativity into CKD bringing in his old pal RG.

And considering we are getting rid of the majority of our offensive problems to the NFL draft and the fact we have a great QB room, man, there is absolutely NOTHING about this to not be estatic about!

 

[BamaMoon]

Don’t forget that there is also a sizeable property tax that makes the no income tax possible

Lived 7 years in Dallas and that's how Texas gets away with no state income tax too. Property taxes there on a middle class house are insane!

 

[bamaslammer]

considering we are getting rid of the majority of our offensive problems to the NFL draft and the fact we have a great QB room, man, there is absolutely NOTHING about this to not be estatic about!

I most definitely am excited to have Grubb back. Any time you can get a proven product in as a coordinator that's a good thing. Especially after entering last year with two guys who had never called a game at this level. Wommack sort of grew into the job as the season went on and ended up being all we had going right. Sheridan probably had no chance so for him it was just "take one for the team". I think in the future he'll get another chance, possibly even with us when Grubb moves on but for the love of God I hope they recruit real Quarterbacks, not running backs who dream of being Quarterbacks.

 

[CrimSonami]

I'm happy Grubb is coming to Bama. Is he a better play caller than Sheridan? Likely so but the tools in the box for the '24 season were diminished and the QB regressed so there's a bit of a pass from me. And maybe, just maybe, Grubb saw the tools in the box when he first arrived with CKD and the offer to return to Washington was timely enough to be the deciding factor. Don't beat the guy down just yet. Like it or not we all knew this coaching and program transition was not going to be as seamless as we hoped.

ROLL TIDE!!!

 

[NoNC4Tubs]

I most definitely am excited to have Grubb back. Any time you can get a proven product in as a coordinator that's a good thing. Especially after entering last year with two guys who had never called a game at this level. Wommack sort of grew into the job as the season went on and ended up being all we had going right. Sheridan probably had no chance so for him it was just "take one for the team". I think in the future he'll get another chance, possibly even with us when Grubb moves on but for the love of God I hope they recruit real Quarterbacks, not running backs someone who dreams of being Quarterbacks.

FIFY

Milroe could NEVER be a running back...

 

[BamaMoon]

I most definitely am excited to have Grubb back. Any time you can get a proven product in as a coordinator that's a good thing. Especially after entering last year with two guys who had never called a game at this level. Wommack sort of grew into the job as the season went on and ended up being all we had going right. Sheridan probably had no chance so for him it was just "take one for the team". I think in the future he'll get another chance, possibly even with us when Grubb moves on but for the love of God I hope they recruit real Quarterbacks, not running backs who dream of being Quarterbacks.

We've got 3 guys who have real talent in the QB room.

It'll be a shock is TS doesn't win the job. I think he's got talent bursting to get out, but he needs good, tough coaching and from listening to the Brock Huard interview on the Rount Table, Grubb is a tough cookie with high demands. Probably just what TS needs to rein in any dangerous risk taking (which is the rumored reason he could never clip Jalen).

He probably doesn't win the job this year, but Keelon Russell is going to be a star if he'll come in work, gain weight, accept coaching and get adjusted to college ball. Again, Grubb will help him.

And the wildcard in this QB battle is the guy in the middle, Austin Mack. If he starts coming into his own, he has the perfect frame for standing in the pocket. CKD/CRG recruited this kid and talked him into forgoing his Sr. year of HS to come learn the system. He probably knows it the best of the 3 right now.

Going forward, I can't imagine this staff taking a risk on another project like JM. And the only reason CNS did is because the current starting QB for the Partriots, Drake Maye, backed out of his committment to Bama and JM was the "back up plan." If Maye is as talented as I think he is, there'll be a good book written one day on what "Maye have been" if his commitment sticks with Bama.

 

[Bodhisattva]

Who could possibly not be ecstatic about this hire?

There are always some glass half empty folks ...

 

[mlh]

This hiring of Grubb would be like Saban hiring Jeremy Pruitt to be the DC. When you have a chance to hire the best, you definitely have to go get them, but it's still DeBoer's offense, first and foremost.

Thank-you! CKD and CRG have worked together for years and had a lot of success. CRG is probably the best OC out there when it comes to understanding CKD's offense and calling plays to suit those schemes.

This is a homerun hire. I just hope he stays for a few years