Question: How long should a person stay at a job?

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She is 28 and has been there 1 year.
IMO that is a short time, especially with them paying for non-standard costs. I did see some reports that Chinas average job tenure is 34 months so they seem to be fairly antsy when it comes to employment from a cultural standpoint. I could see where "more" money would be enticing as she had to take a pay cut at her current employer even if that is going to be corrected in the near future.
 

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She will be resigning on Monday. She told me they gave her a raise on Tuesday and she said nothing to them. She also said they were really busy right now. She is still quitting.

I plan on reaching out next week. If they need help I might return.
 
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Update:

She will be resigning on Monday. She told me they gave her a raise on Tuesday and she said nothing to them. She also said they were really busy right now. She is still quitting.

I plan on reaching out next week. If they need help I might return.
One thing you don't want to do is burn bridges when you leave a job. I believe she is burning this one. She may learn a really hard lesson and if she does hopefully it will help her grow up.
 

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Update:

She will be resigning on Monday. She told me they gave her a raise on Tuesday and she said nothing to them. She also said they were really busy right now. She is still quitting.

I plan on reaching out next week. If they need help I might return.
One thing you don't want to do is burn bridges when you leave a job. I believe she is burning this one. She may learn a really hard lesson and if she does hopefully it will help her grow up.
She's not burning the bridge....she's nuking it, breaking up the glass on the ground and sowing salt 6 feet down.

Professional circles are smaller than many think, and word gets around fast. She will be very fortunate not to regret this.
 

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Update:

She will be resigning on Monday. She told me they gave her a raise on Tuesday and she said nothing to them. She also said they were really busy right now. She is still quitting.

I plan on reaching out next week. If they need help I might return.
Just be mindful that your current employer took you in when you were down. You don't owe them anything, but how you leave is important if you decide to do so. Whatever you decide, I wish you well.
 
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Just be mindful that your current employer took you in when you were down. You don't owe them anything, but how you leave is important if you decide to do so. Whatever you decide, I wish you well.
I have never burned a bridge of any place I have been. All speak highly of me. The place I am at now all know and are friends with my former employee. My boss went to school and studied computer drafting with one of the associates. They know I would only leave them for my former place. They also know I have turned down 3 different places since I was hired. 4 if you count one place twice that asked twice. This office is small so they overheard me on my cell.
 
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She quit this morning and the boss texted my an hour later and said he wanted to talk. I told him I would listen. They want me to come back. We shall see what they offer. It will be a pretty tough decision for me actually. I know I have been critical of her leaving and it sounds strange for me to even consider bailing after only 3 months. The difference is I have been pretty open about leaving for the old firm and only the old firm. I have turned down other firms to stay at this one. They do know each other. If work dries up, I could always come back.
 

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My wife went through the MBA program at Alabama and they were taught that career advancement happens through changing employers. You don't stay and climb the ladder anymore because the older people can't afford to get off the ladder. In my field there have been some great openings the past two years only because the older workers can't handle the remote/virtual aspects that COVID has caused.
 

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She quit this morning and the boss texted my an hour later and said he wanted to talk. I told him I would listen. They want me to come back. We shall see what they offer. It will be a pretty tough decision for me actually. I know I have been critical of her leaving and it sounds strange for me to even consider bailing after only 3 months. The difference is I have been pretty open about leaving for the old firm and only the old firm. I have turned down other firms to stay at this one. They do know each other. If work dries up, I could always come back.
I'd go for a guaranteed 5 year contract...you've been through enough being bounced around...
 

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The offered 15k more than I am making right now. Guaranteed in January to get a raise to 20k more than I currently make at this job. For sure 2-3 years of work. I told them see you in 2 weeks. They wanted to know if I knew anybody else that I could bring.

They are ticked at her, but need her for 2 weeks because of workload.
 
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I think you are right. She is just young. She still doesn’t know how tough architecture can be. When she got out of school, architecture was a booming business. It was at an all time high and everybody was paying well. Covid hits and ruined all that. The fact that she waited to tell me until things were already in the works tells me that she knew I would try and talk her out of leaving. She will learn soon enough things aren’t always great and wonderful. Personally, I have never burned bridges from anywhere I have been. Everywhere I have worked speaks highly of me with one exception. One place I worked I got fired because I was looking for a new job on company time (technically I was at lunch but I used their computer). The boss isn’t too fond of me, but everyone else there thinks I am awesome.

I know another person that worked for a large architecture firm that was super strict. They monitored emails and calls and you had to sign out for lunch and they had mandatory 50 hour work weeks. He always wondered why the rest of us were always off work “early”. When he got laid off during the recession in 2008, they told him by a voice automated phone call and that he was to mail his key card to the office overnight at his expense. Then he got another job at a smaller firm (12 people). He was asking to go to lunch and they told him this isn’t elementary school, you don’t have to ask permission, just go to lunch when you want. He thought the way the big firm ran their business was just how it was at every firm.
First hand experience BTDT. For me.
Out of college I went to work for one of the worst bosses imaginable. A year later we had made reservations out of state for a weeks vacation.
My boss found out and the day before vacation, he suddenly wanted me to work the next week. No emergency, just petty and spiteful. He tells me on the phone. Next morning instead of leaving for vacation bright and early... I'm standing in his office, he was on the phone. The longer I stood there, the madder I got. That's when I burned my bridge...
I picked up a paper off his desk, turned it over and wrote...
'Blank Blank, I quit.' Bright red ink. I turned around and left on vacation.
The boss, true to form, sent letters all over the state, telling bosses what I had done.
I was up the creek w/o a paddle. No jobs available to me.
3 months later I heard of a job in South Alabama. I showed up and the boss, showed me the letter...
Lucky for me the boss in South Alabama went to college with my former boss, and had the same opinion of my former boss as I did. I got the job, but not until the new boss heard my side of the story.
The moral of the story is that even when you are young (21) and dumb, don't do what I did. KARMA is a monster, when it latches onto you.

(I don't mean to offend the forum, so if It's too offensive where I wrote
blank, blank. Please eliminate my post.)
I wrote this that people might learn from my mistakes.
 

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I decided to go back. I called him to tell him I will accept. They are thrilled I am coming back. Now the really hard part will be tendering my resignation tomorrow morning. Why do I feel so bad about this? I am leaving for more money and better benefits, but I feel like crap.
 

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I decided to go back. I called him to tell him I will accept. They are thrilled I am coming back. Now the really hard part will be tendering my resignation tomorrow morning. Why do I feel so bad about this? I am leaving for more money and better benefits, but I feel like crap.
Because you care about the people in the other firm. Good for you. Make sure that they understand how hard this decision was for you.

Money does not bring happiness. Relationships bring happiness.
 

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I decided to go back. I called him to tell him I will accept. They are thrilled I am coming back. Now the really hard part will be tendering my resignation tomorrow morning. Why do I feel so bad about this? I am leaving for more money and better benefits, but I feel like crap.
They gave you a job when you needed one...you will always be indebted to them. You might let them have a chance to match the money...I'm not sure about all the other aspects...
 

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They were upset and disappointed but said they understood. He did ask if it was his buddy that asked me back. I said no it was the main partner that did. They even said I would be welcomed back here if I want to come back. It went better than I thought it would. They did tell me they knew something was off about me yesterday and just thought I had a "rough weekend".
 

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They were upset and disappointed but said they understood. He did ask if it was his buddy that asked me back. I said no it was the main partner that did. They even said I would be welcomed back here if I want to come back. It went better than I thought it would. They did tell me they knew something was off about me yesterday and just thought I had a "rough weekend".
I'm glad the "parting" went well, but at the end of the day (and they know this) it's business. People have to make the best decision for their life and sometimes it just doesn't line up with the company's best interest. The main thing is to not burn a bridge that you may need to walk back across later. It sounds like you kept that bridge intact for future use.
 

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I'm glad the "parting" went well, but at the end of the day (and they know this) it's business. People have to make the best decision for their life and sometimes it just doesn't line up with the company's best interest. The main thing is to not burn a bridge that you may need to walk back across later. It sounds like you kept that bridge intact for future use.
They tried to counter with another offer, but it wasn't as much. Plus I will be going from a 12 mile commute to a 4 mile commute. Plus they cannot match benefits. They asked if I could help find my replacement. They really wanted me to stay. They said if I change my mind I am more than welcome to come back and said I was one of the best people and employees they have ever had. I actually gave them a couple of names of people. One is sending his resume to them.
 

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She quit this morning and the boss texted my an hour later and said he wanted to talk. I told him I would listen. They want me to come back. We shall see what they offer. It will be a pretty tough decision for me actually. I know I have been critical of her leaving and it sounds strange for me to even consider bailing after only 3 months. The difference is I have been pretty open about leaving for the old firm and only the old firm. I have turned down other firms to stay at this one. They do know each other. If work dries up, I could always come back.
You started the thread to complain how ungrateful the girl was to leave her job after one year, now you are leaving your job after three months? Too funny!
 

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