Question: How many offensive points are acceptable against our D?
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0-13: Outstanding
14-21: Good
22-29: Depends on how they were scored. A KR or PR for TD, and INT for TD, or if a struggling offense left our D on the field a lot, it might not be as bad as it would if it were simply four TDs.
30+: Not good.
14-21: Good
22-29: Depends on how they were scored. A KR or PR for TD, and INT for TD, or if a struggling offense left our D on the field a lot, it might not be as bad as it would if it were simply four TDs.
30+: Not good.
I make this to be an eight maybe nine possesion game for them without turnovers. I'm thinking if they post 17 I'll give Mallet props. It's too big of a game for them to risk much early. We've called off the dogs all three games, both sides of the ball.
Mine has been very slow for the past two days. It may be all those Arkansas fans coming here and HOGGING bandwith. :biggrin:
The only thing that matters is winning. Now, giving up few points sure gives me confidence -- so that is my choice. 17-7 is better than 37-27 in my book.
Thanks for the discussion. I was wanting to gauge how we as a fan base would feel about the D as points are scored and at what amount, on this game only, would we look back and be concerned about our D. Of course, this was in a vacuum scenario, i.e., only their offense scoring in normal situations.
I like the tired approach many have taken. also helps while getting through the game as it is played already having a mind-set of what is tolerable (agree to earlier post that "acceptable" not best choice of wording).
Of course, the bias in this is that I believe we will win, otherwise the tolerable becomes @#$%#@%.
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I like the tired approach many have taken. also helps while getting through the game as it is played already having a mind-set of what is tolerable (agree to earlier post that "acceptable" not best choice of wording).
Of course, the bias in this is that I believe we will win, otherwise the tolerable becomes @#$%#@%.
Love this site!
RTR :BigA::BigA::BigA:
17-24 points
17 if we smack em' in the mouth early.
24 if we are a little apprehensive.
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17 if we smack em' in the mouth early.
24 if we are a little apprehensive.
ROLL TIDE !! :BigA:
Anything over 30 (in a regulation game) is too much IMO, but at the end of the day it's all about the W, so if it's less than what we score.........
I just don't think they score 30 points on us. Of course, if I'm wrong, it won't be the first time, or the last. Honestly, I think we hold them to 21 or less. I'm looking for our pass defense to show a lot of improvement over the first 3 games. Guess we'll find out!
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I don't like to think of myself as one who questions our young defense.
But it occurs to me that when you have a guy who can spread the field -- and that's basically what this game is about -- it turns up all kinds of possible variations you have to deal with.
I can think of two or three such variations.
First, there is the "Hail Mary" game. Perhaps you don't remember how the Atlanta Falcons beat the Saints back when the Saints would either have a good offense and no defense, or a good defense and no offense. One particular year, the Saints were in a 'no-offense' mode. The Falcons, right at the end of the game, tossed a long Hail-Mary pass into the right side of the end zone at the Superdome and won the game.
Mallett and Petrino may have cooked up a "Hail-Mary" game plan.
Or, they may have cooked up a "West Coast Offense" game plan. In that case they perhaps will hit the receiver short over the middle, a la Joe Montana, in front of our DB's, and hope that the receiver can take it to the house, a la Jerry Rice.
Still another variation is to hit the receiver deep on the sideline. Gary Danielson has discussed the advantage of doing that. In effect, it diminishes the ability of your safeties to help your cornerbacks.
I have frequently noticed something over the years listening to TV commentators when a passing team gets down close to the goal line. You've seen it a thousand times. The passing offense is close to the goal line, and it gets a penalty that sets if back at least five yards. My immediate thought is that this gives the quarterback a bigger field to work with, more room to pass the ball, and more 'acreage' for the DB's to have to cover -- therefore, paradoxically, the advantage goes to the passing offense because of a penalty.
When you have a guy like Mallett, in effect he works the whole game with this particular advantage. He has more field to work with than does the average quarterback. If he's on his own thirty yard line, that gives him 70 yards downfield to work with, whereas QB's with lesser arm strength are confined to much less 'acreage.'
That's all I'm saying. Our DB's have a lot of field to cover, and there are variations within this 'acreage' that they have to be ready for. If they were a more experienced group, I would not be quite as concerned. I think they are going to see some stuff tomorrow that they haven't seen, and, well, it should stand them in good stead for the rest of their careers.
I don't like to think of myself as one who questions our young defense.
But it occurs to me that when you have a guy who can spread the field -- and that's basically what this game is about -- it turns up all kinds of possible variations you have to deal with.
I can think of two or three such variations.
First, there is the "Hail Mary" game. Perhaps you don't remember how the Atlanta Falcons beat the Saints back when the Saints would either have a good offense and no defense, or a good defense and no offense. One particular year, the Saints were in a 'no-offense' mode. The Falcons, right at the end of the game, tossed a long Hail-Mary pass into the right side of the end zone at the Superdome and won the game.
Mallett and Petrino may have cooked up a "Hail-Mary" game plan.
Or, they may have cooked up a "West Coast Offense" game plan. In that case they perhaps will hit the receiver short over the middle, a la Joe Montana, in front of our DB's, and hope that the receiver can take it to the house, a la Jerry Rice.
Still another variation is to hit the receiver deep on the sideline. Gary Danielson has discussed the advantage of doing that. In effect, it diminishes the ability of your safeties to help your cornerbacks.
I have frequently noticed something over the years listening to TV commentators when a passing team gets down close to the goal line. You've seen it a thousand times. The passing offense is close to the goal line, and it gets a penalty that sets if back at least five yards. My immediate thought is that this gives the quarterback a bigger field to work with, more room to pass the ball, and more 'acreage' for the DB's to have to cover -- therefore, paradoxically, the advantage goes to the passing offense because of a penalty.
When you have a guy like Mallett, in effect he works the whole game with this particular advantage. He has more field to work with than does the average quarterback. If he's on his own thirty yard line, that gives him 70 yards downfield to work with, whereas QB's with lesser arm strength are confined to much less 'acreage.'
That's all I'm saying. Our DB's have a lot of field to cover, and there are variations within this 'acreage' that they have to be ready for. If they were a more experienced group, I would not be quite as concerned. I think they are going to see some stuff tomorrow that they haven't seen, and, well, it should stand them in good stead for the rest of their careers.
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