I Don't Know Where to Start With The Team (Literally - No Teaser)

[4Q Basket Case]

You can make the right decision and still get a poor outcome.

You’re absolutely right. But my central point is that the decision to replace a coach has two components — the decision to remove the incumbent and the far more important decision on who his replacement should be. If you don’t get both components right, you run a big risk of ending up worse off than you were.

Based on three games and untold chaos, it would appear that we flubbed the second component and are now worse off than if we had begged BOB to stay.

FTR — I’m not saying we should have kept BOB. I’m saying that this is a great example of the fact that hiring any new coach has a crapshoot aspect to it. Looks like the shooter rolled boxcars.

 

[Joefus]

there’s a lot going on and we’ll never know what exactly all the issues are but I think (as always) there’s several compounding issues that aren’t quickly fixed. Youth, lack of playing time together as units, and honestly we don’t have home run hitters on offense. I remember cublic saying it’d take a min for our oline to get cohesion and play well as one and it might be a mess for a few weeks. We don’t have a smitty amari etc at receiver and we don’t have a Henry Najee etc at rb and we certainly don’t have a qb playing at a high level. That doesn’t mean we won’t and that they can’t get there. This is growing pains and a team that has lost faith in itself and maybe even a coach or two. This is fixable if we can get out of our own way. Problem is we seem to be on perma-tilt and choke away any momentum the second we get it. My friend group calls it having your tickle panties on. When a Saban team goes into a shell and seems to be in a complete fog. I wish just for this year he’d let go of that emotion thing and just get our guys lathered up and seeing red. Yeah they’ll make emotional mistakes but I’d rather see a guy screw up bc he’s fit to kill than he’s petrified of being the reason we lose 🤷🏻‍♂️

 

[Windsortide]

Oline is a place to start. Has been inconsistent up to this point in the season.

 

[SkullDuckery]

Lonergan isn’t going to play this year. It’s obvious at this point. Right or wrong, it’s not happening.

Always remember the same folks that said our oline was going to be dominant are the same folks talking about Lonergan being the best qb.

 

[GrayTide]

We were very fortunate to have Tua and Bryce, they came to Alabama game ready. Since Sark and Kiffin we have not had the OC or the time to develop a QB. I doubt Milroe, Buchner, or Simpson have improved appreciably since their first day on campus. The ego of a highly recruited HS QB does not allow for being a backup, developing their skills, and waiting their turn.

I do not have a clue how all of this will play out, but I really do not believe Milroe or Buchner is the answer. I believe Simpson and Lonergan have much higher ceilings and maybe our current best hope. I say this with the caveat that, until we get the OL problem fixed, it will not matter who the QB is. I agree with 4Q and 81usa on firing Rees or any other assistant right now. I said in an earlier post in another thread that, IMO, we can expect at least 2 possibly 3 QBS headed to the portal at the end of the season.

 

[Con]

I still stand behind BoB needed to go. Expecting the quarterback to effectively choose the play based on looking pre snap in college is just bonkers. Imagine these quarterbacks trying to do it.

This is a scary thought.

 

[JohnD]

I doubt BoB could have done any better with this offensive team that can't block and doesn't have a Heisman trophy winning, number 1 pick in the NFL draft QB to bail him out.

The only thing that has changed is the Heisman winning, #1 pick in the NFL draft QB.

 

[B1GTide]

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I guess this is OK? No flag, no uproar, nothing. What if he blinded the kid.

Not okay. Has nothing to do with the Hunter hit.

 

[bamaga]

Not okay. Has nothing to do with the Hunter hit.

Where is the uproar? The social media fire? Calling for his head or at least a suspension?

 

[B1GTide]

Where is the uproar? The social media fire? Calling for his head or at least a suspension?

Don't know or care. I am not in an uproar about the Hunter hit. I just know wrong when I see it.

 

[BamaMoon]

Every offensive play starts with a snap. If you use shotgun or pistol and 40% of the snaps are grounders, your QB better be a good shortstop. Then you have about 5% high snaps and the snaps that are on target are like a MLB fastball. If this is the best we can expect, the QB needs to be moved under center. The rest of the O-line is so bad that it would be impossible to evaluate ANY QB.

Thank you! It's one of the "first things" to notice about the offense. Every QB who's played so far has struggled to handle the fast ball snap. EVERY ONE OF THEM! If this is so easy to see (and you could even see it from the wide field angle after the lightning delay) then how in the world is this not being addressed? Are we so bad on the OL that we don't have another center who can snap the ball with some touch???

 

[BamaMoon]

I was eager to see him get a shot, if the word out of spring was true. I think the staff completely mis-evaluated this OL’s capabilities and now they don’t know what to do regarding the QB.

I guess this is where I am regarding the QB situation.

I probably need to apologize to those that said it was more of an OL problem that QB problem.

Granted, the QB's have struggled and I don't think the automatic solution is "go back to Milroe."

But until the snapping problem is fixed at center and the sieve that comes right up the middle is corrected (is it the centers or guards that are whiffing half the time?) and until the problem at LT and RT is fixed, I'm not sure it would matter if we had Patrick Mahomes playing QB right now.

And, if I'm Julian Sayin and I'm seeing this, I'm not sure I'm as solid for Bama as he's been being!!!

 

[BamaMoon]

Maybe it’s just the passage of time and my age, but I don’t remember any Saban-coached Bama team looking this bad, except for maybe in his first year.

The combination of ineptitude, lack of focus and weak effort is astounding.

I don’t even know what to think at this point.

And I’m not even upset, I’m just totally confused.

Brother, you and I feel very similar and it generated this post!

I was at the LA Monroe game in 2007 and the feeling I had walking out of the stadium that day is how I felt last night.

 

[BamaMoon]

I said it a week ago, no leadership. i don’t see any players taking command of the team on the sideline. Nobody stands out as a true leader. This group of upperclassmen are mediocre. How can we have year after year of great recruiting classes and not have the talent? It’s got to be there but nothing is meshing it all together and it’s not just the coaches. Players have to take some responsibility.

I'll bite at this one.

I disagree. I don't see the players being a problem.

They look clueless on offense and that is on the coaching. The center situation is "exhibit A."

I watched a bunch of football yesterday...watched all day long form 12 noon until the end of the CO/Co. St. game and we were the most inept team on offense I saw all day long.

I seriously wonder how we don't lose 5 or 6 games at this point. And I don't think I'm exaggerating right now!

 

[westide]

The coaches are the problem!

 

[Evil Crimson Dragon]

The coaches are the problem!

Well, never fear..................the media has already replaced the head coach...........

 

[SkinnyFats]

And, if I'm Julian Sayin and I'm seeing this, I'm not sure I'm as solid for Bama as he's been being!!!

But, but…. What about all the posters saying “We can’t play Lonergan because Sayin is coming?“ You mean kids and their parents can change their minds, and until you have a signature you shouldn’t count on anything?

 

[CrimsonBloodn62]

But, but…. What about all the posters saying “We can’t play Lonergan because Sayin is coming? You mean kids and their parents can change their minds, and until you have a signature you shouldn’t count on anything?

That signature is not worth the paper it is written on. If they are not happy they will just up and transfer. That’s what coaches are having to deal with now. No accountability on the players anymore.

 

[HighlandOak]

I was eager to see him get a shot, if the word out of spring was true. I think the staff completely mis-evaluated this OL’s capabilities and now they don’t know what to do regarding the QB.

I was just making a baseball joke since Lonergan is on the baseball team and many have speculated that will be the sport he ultimately pursues.

 

[HighlandOak]

Compared to the last 15 years, we suck. That's what's wrong.

Well stated.