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I just have to know: OU vs Oregon debacle...

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I watched the game live on television Sat., as some of you did, and without a doubt saw the ball touched by Oregon before it went ten yards. All I have heard the last few days is the OU v. Oregon thing, so I decided to look for it online. What I found is, Oregon touching it first doesn't even matter because OU recovered the onside kick!

Watch this video... and everytime you watch the video, look for #23 for OU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I89oW2fd_pg&mode=related&search=

How in the world does that happen?
 
I'm tired of this entire thing lol

But honestly...I have a small point that might not be worth anything, but still...if the refs went in to review if the ball went 10 yards, can they also review if oregon or oklahoma came out with it? For whatever reason I thought refs had to pick what they were reviewing and stick to that subject only?
 
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14895292/

OU is considering cancelling Pac-10 games??????? Are you kidding me? Stoops really needs to get over this...Yes, it was a terrible officiating, but had they actually played Defense on the last drive (or on any of the drives that the Ducks scored thier 34 points), or had they actually been able to kick a field goal in the clutch, they win...Given the results of the TCU game last year, if I were him, I'd be concentrating on MTSU, especially with Texas lurking the next game
 
Tennessee said:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14895292/

OU is considering cancelling Pac-10 games??????? Are you kidding me? Stoops really needs to get over this...Yes, it was a terrible officiating, but had they actually played Defense on the last drive (or on any of the drives that the Ducks scored thier 34 points), or had they actually been able to kick a field goal in the clutch, they win...Given the results of the TCU game last year, if I were him, I'd be concentrating on MTSU, especially with Texas lurking the next game
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This is exactly the attitude the ncaa, Pac-10 and Oregon want everyone to take. Turn the blame back on OU and ignore the fact that OU was horribly screwed THREE times at the end of the game. It makes no difference what OU did or didn't do for the remainder of the game. The fact is, the outcome of a game was wrongly determined despite there being a mechanism in place to prevent it.
 
Tennessee said:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14895292/

OU is considering cancelling Pac-10 games??????? Are you kidding me? Stoops really needs to get over this...Yes, it was a terrible officiating, but had they actually played Defense on the last drive (or on any of the drives that the Ducks scored thier 34 points), or had they actually been able to kick a field goal in the clutch, they win...Given the results of the TCU game last year, if I were him, I'd be concentrating on MTSU, especially with Texas lurking the next game
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I agree. Other teams and coaches have had to deal with more unfairness than this. Bama fans know all about a stacked deck.
Oklahoma shouldn't have let the Ducks hang around.
Stoops needs to quit his whining and get to work.
 
Tennessee said:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14895292/

OU is considering cancelling Pac-10 games??????? Are you kidding me? Stoops really needs to get over this...Yes, it was a terrible officiating, but had they actually played Defense on the last drive (or on any of the drives that the Ducks scored thier 34 points), or had they actually been able to kick a field goal in the clutch, they win...Given the results of the TCU game last year, if I were him, I'd be concentrating on MTSU, especially with Texas lurking the next game
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If these types of "mistakes" were rare, I would agree with you, but they are all too common. Until officials are held accountable for their horrible decisions, this will only get worse. Actions like this could very well produce change...
 
Tennessee said:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14895292/

OU is considering cancelling Pac-10 games??????? Are you kidding me? Stoops really needs to get over this...Yes, it was a terrible officiating, but had they actually played Defense on the last drive (or on any of the drives that the Ducks scored thier 34 points), or had they actually been able to kick a field goal in the clutch, they win...Given the results of the TCU game last year, if I were him, I'd be concentrating on MTSU, especially with Texas lurking the next game
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I agree. OU acts like they are the first to ever get jobbed on the road. It happens all the time. Southern Cal scored one time even though the running back left the football on about the five yard line.

It happened to Florida at Tennessee last Saturday. Florida was so dominant that they held UT to -2 yards rushing AND pressured Ainge enough to cause 2 interceptions plus some other mistakes. They won by one point.

That is what it takes to win on the road in college football. Instant replay will never fix that.

And besides all of that, the camera lies.
 
if instant replay were not involved im sure okla would get over it and go on,but it was involved and instant replay is for stopping bad calls by officials for what ever their motives are. so when the judgement came down like it did for ore. and when everyone and his brother with two good eyes can oviously see the truth on replay it makes one question the honesty of the officials. bad calls are supposed to be corrected with the replay and this one wasnt. it smells to high heaven. stoops has every right to be ****ed. im glad they are standing up for the truth and whats right. it may wake some people up.
 
Tennessee said:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14895292/

OU is considering cancelling Pac-10 games??????? Are you kidding me? Stoops really needs to get over this...Yes, it was a terrible officiating, but had they actually played Defense on the last drive (or on any of the drives that the Ducks scored thier 34 points), or had they actually been able to kick a field goal in the clutch, they win...Given the results of the TCU game last year, if I were him, I'd be concentrating on MTSU, especially with Texas lurking the next game
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They did play defense on the last drive, and got jobbed by ANOTHER bad pass-interference call, that also went to replay and that also clearly should have been overturned.

Two blown calls within 3 plays, both confirmed by the replay booth. People can feel bad for the replay ref and the death threats he's receiving all they want, but that doesn't mean he should be allowed to do that job anymore. I wouldn't hire a blind kid to mow my lawn just because I feel bad for him.

The whole "they shouldn't have let it be that close" argument just doesn't hold water. Plenty of games go down to the wire - that doesn't mean that the team who only wins by *this much* should have to accept being at the mercy of bad officiating.
 
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Tennessee said:
OU is considering cancelling Pac-10 games??????? Are you kidding me? Stoops really needs to get over this...
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I think boycotting the Pac 10 is overreacting. However, he is right the Pac 10 should change the rule where Pac 10 officials must officiate all Pac 10 non conference home games. It should either be Big 12 officials (or whatever conference the visiting team is from) or neutral officials.
 
popechild said:
They did play defense on the last drive, and got jobbed by ANOTHER bad pass-interference call, that also went to replay and that also clearly should have been overturned.

Two blown calls within 3 plays, both confirmed by the replay booth. People can feel bad for the replay ref and the death threats he's receiving all they want, but that doesn't mean he should be allowed to do that job anymore. I wouldn't hire a blind kid to mow my lawn just because I feel bad for him.

The whole "they shouldn't have let it be that close" argument just doesn't hold water. Plenty of games go down to the wire - that doesn't mean that the team who only wins by *this much* should have to accept being at the mercy of bad officiating.
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I gotta agree with that. Some games are just close. Some teams are just well-matched, does that mean that they have no right to expect a fair game? In a close game, correct calls become that much more important, especially when OU's defense was getting screwed by the refs, and shouldn't have even been on the field except for the refs.
 
I dont blame OU for threatening to not play Pac 10 teams. Its like if you walk down a dark alley and a bunch of guys jump you and beat you up. If that happens you dont want to walk down another dark alley.

Hopefully it will cause us to have better refs someday. (Yes, i am a dreamer).:)
 
We have to keep talking about it or it will continue. Not only was it a bad call, but they ref spots the ball without even seeing it!!!???

Those refs should be removed from the game forever. I've never seen a more potent case that appears to be officials cooking the game.
 
Thgere are other ramifications to this other than just the seemingly homer inspired mistakes. Think about the BCS, this loss on the Sooners record could very well come back to haunt them when it comes time to pair up the BCS bowls. With another loss and a 10-2 record, this little "mistake" by the Pac-10 could very well cost them a 14-15 million dollar payday. Two more real losses would effectively slam the door in their face, because as we all know. only ND would stand a chance of a BCS bowl with 3 losses, real or otherwise.

On the other side of the coin, Oregon is now much better positioned for a BCS bowl and the huge payout. Think about it, PAC-10 officials make not one. not two, but THREE mistakes in the final moments of the game which could give the Pac-10 an extra BCS bowl and also take one away from OU and the Big-12. That's probably why OU is trying so hard to have the loss expunged from their record.
 
bama mike 21560 said:
if instant replay were not involved im sure okla would get over it and go on,but it was involved and instant replay is for stopping bad calls by officials for what ever their motives are. so when the judgement came down like it did for ore. and when everyone and his brother with two good eyes can oviously see the truth on replay it makes one question the honesty of the officials. bad calls are supposed to be corrected with the replay and this one wasnt. it smells to high heaven. stoops has every right to be ****ed. im glad they are standing up for the truth and whats right. it may wake some people up.
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I couldn't agree more with you.

Some of the national media is starting to make OU look as if they're whiners and that they shouldn't be making such of a big deal about this. Here's the thing...the fans and administration of ANY other school in America would be doing the SAME thing if it had happened to them. It's easy to say, "oh just get over it" when it doesn't happen to you. Cowherd (sp?) was ripping OU a new one today about how they should just drop it and accept the one loss. The thing he doesn't realize is that when you're a top tier program and are competing for a NC every year, that ONE loss makes a BIG difference. You also have to remember that OU got screwed at Tech twice last year on the final drive so this situation just poured salt into the wound. The critics will never understand until it happens to THEM.
 
What's all this PC "just get over it" baloney? Oklahoma got robbed BIG TIME by someone who was PAID to insure a win by Oregon, if possable. Yes, I said it. No way an honest person could look at that and come up with Oregon's ball. Mr. Offical(s) Sir, you are a CROOK.

I can understand the "judgment call" being wrong the first time, but instant replay is supposed to take the "judgment" out of the equation and look at cold, hard facts.
 
That Georgia receiver's knee was down in the '65 Bama-Georgia game. Clear as day. Replay proved it beyond a doubt. That was 41 years and two days ago.

The more things change the more they stay the same.

If OU has never been jobbed by the homer referees on the road before, they are now members of that not so exclusive club.

From a charter member institution, welcome. :p
 
popechild said:
The whole "they shouldn't have let it be that close" argument just doesn't hold water. Plenty of games go down to the wire - that doesn't mean that the team who only wins by *this much* should have to accept being at the mercy of bad officiating.
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So, Bama fans should stop griping about the out of bounds call at Penn State because we never should have let them take the lead in the first place?

ri-i-i-i-i-ght. :rolleyes:
 
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