Question: If Coker from FSU transfers when will it be announced?

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This thread isn't about Morris, it was about Coker. Someone listed Morris's name in a list of others and you singled him out and went off on him. It was out of place and out of line for this thread.
Is it okay to speculate about a QB enrolled at another school being your starter next year? I'm surprised this thread even exists. It's purely speculation, right? Is there a credible source out there stating he is leaving FSU?
 

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Is it okay to speculate about a QB enrolled at another school being your starter next year? I'm surprised this thread even exists. It's purely speculation, right? Is there a credible source out there stating he is leaving FSU?
No "credible" source has said anything about it because no one from UA or FSU is going to say anything about it. FSU fans expect it, though. Alabama fans expect it, too.
 

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I've been hearing that the mom has been contacting the possible target schools, requiring a guarantee that he will start if he transfers. If that's accurate, I think we all know what Saban's answer was (is?). She's done some other things which were pretty brash. Having been through the parent/manager thing with P. Sims, I don't think Saban would sign on for that again. Further back, we went through it with Juicy Locke. For that reason, the guys I know who generally know have gone from "done deal" to "little chance it happens." But who knows for sure? Transfer situations are generally pretty fluid...
 

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Is it okay to speculate about a QB enrolled at another school being your starter next year? I'm surprised this thread even exists. It's purely speculation, right? Is there a credible source out there stating he is leaving FSU?
This one seems ok. It appears to be plausible speculation as opposed to some crazy rumor. Earle commenting on the thread without closing it also makes it sound like this isn't some out in left field discussion.
 

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Is it okay to speculate about a QB enrolled at another school being your starter next year? I'm surprised this thread even exists. It's purely speculation, right? Is there a credible source out there stating he is leaving FSU?
There have been numerous credible sources saying that his transfer is as good as done. Where seems to be the question. If he stays, he plays behind the HT winner for his remaining two years of eligibility. Of course events could jerk a knot in that, for example if Winston gets prosecuted by the AG (who is a UF grad)...
 

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Let's get back on point. I had never heard of Coker until the talk of him transferring started. I checked out his Rivals profile, and he certainly has all the physical attributes you'd want in a pro-style QB. If he is truly neck and neck with Winston, I would love to have him at Bama, if nothing else to push the other QBs even more.
I think it's easy to make too much of the head to head with Winston thing. Phillip Sims was head to head with AJ, or so it seemed, and we know how that turned out. But, from what I've read the only reason Coker passed under the radar was that he was a late bloomer. Alabama wanted him, scouts are big on him, and while he's not a sure thing, he's the best chance Alabama has of being able to run the exact same offense next year (if Blake starts, I have to imagine there will be some changes to suite his style).
I've been hearing that the mom has been contacting the possible target schools, requiring a guarantee that he will start if he transfers. If that's accurate, I think we all know what Saban's answer was (is?).
That's a terrible idea and that's how someone ends up as a backup punter at a west coast school. It makes sense for Coker to transfer, but no decent program would guarantee him the starting job. He'd have about as much of a chance at Alabama, as he's likely to find, and the fact that Blake Sims will be a senior, gives him a good chance even if he's not the guy next year (as likely as it is that Winston does leave early, there's no guarantee). It's a shame because he seems like a great fit.
 

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There have been numerous credible sources saying that his transfer is as good as done. Where seems to be the question. If he stays, he plays behind the HT winner for his remaining two years of eligibility. Of course events could jerk a knot in that, for example if Winston gets prosecuted by the AG (who is a UF grad)...
Coker may transfer to Bama who knows at this point, but one thing is certain, CNS will put who he thinks is the best QB, on the field next year. I'd bet a quad zillion dollars that Cokers mom won't get a guarantee from CNS that Coker will start if transferring to Bama. I seriously think at this point that Blake Sims will be the starter and also that you will see a totally different QB in Sims when he plays with the 1's.
 

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Coker may transfer to Bama who knows at this point, but one thing is certain, CNS will put who he thinks is the best QB, on the field next year. I'd bet a quad zillion dollars that Cokers mom won't get a guarantee from CNS that Coker will start if transferring to Bama. I seriously think at this point that Blake Sims will be the starter and also that you will see a totally different QB in Sims when he plays with the 1's.

If Sims is starting at QB at the university of Alabama next season, with the quality of high school recruits we have accumulated, Bama had better bring in another adviser to evaluate what they're looking at at the position.
 

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The more I read about people's opinions on Sims the more I want him to win the job and lead us to 15-0 and another title.
 

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If Sims is starting at QB at the university of Alabama next season, with the quality of high school recruits we have accumulated, Bama had better bring in another adviser to evaluate what they're looking at at the position.
Yeah, him starting completely says the other players are garbage and says nothing about his progression and talent as a QB.
 

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If Sims is starting at QB at the university of Alabama next season, with the quality of high school recruits we have accumulated, Bama had better bring in another adviser to evaluate what they're looking at at the position.
What? Ok, sure let's move some four star WRs over to QB. You do get that Alabama only can play people at quarterback that can actually play quarterback, right?

Secondly, you seem to be ignoring what happened. Alabama had Phillip Sims, a highly rated QB. He would have been in line to start next season, but he transferred. Alabama also missed out on several QBs they were recruiting, notably Coker and Winston.

So, what do they have? They have Blake Sims, three 3 star QBs, one four star, and AJ. I don't get the negativity for Blake though. When Phillip transferred, he moved back to QB to fill the hole and he's done what is asked of him. I do think the offense would have to be changed if he is the starter, but what can Nick Marshall do that Blake can't? Alabama has a couple highly recruited QBs that should sign in the future, but one is injured and that hurts his development and one will be there in 2015, so without Phillip Sims to bridge the gap, it has to be someone else.
 

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If Sims is starting at QB at the university of Alabama next season, with the quality of high school recruits we have accumulated, Bama had better bring in another adviser to evaluate what they're looking at at the position.
Afterall, CNS clearly needs help evaluating talent.
 

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Coker may transfer to Bama who knows at this point, but one thing is certain, CNS will put who he thinks is the best QB, on the field next year. I'd bet a quad zillion dollars that Cokers mom won't get a guarantee from CNS that Coker will start if transferring to Bama. I seriously think at this point that Blake Sims will be the starter and also that you will see a totally different QB in Sims when he plays with the 1's.
There have been too many recruits make comments like "Coach promised me a chance to copmpete, and he did not give me any false hope. He told me that if I prove myself to be the best, then I will play". Coach Saban has been very consistent about giving every kid a fair chance to earn the job. And playing the one that gives us the best chance to win. Having said that, I would believe that Sims does not fit the mold that gives us the best chance to win, based on what I have seen.
I do know one thing for certain. And that is that coach Saban knows what he is doing, and will make the right decisions :smile:. History supports this fact.
And from what I have heard in the past about Coker, he would be a good fit in our Offensive scheme.
 

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It's important to remember that no matter who is back there they will be a drop off from AJ.

It's also important to remember that we start off with a very weak schedule.

1st 4 games:
WVU (4-8)
FAU (6-6)
Southern Miss (1-11)
Florida (4-8)
BYE

Whoever is back there will have time to get their feet wet even if they don't win the job in game 1.
 

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It will have to be after he graduates from FSU.

Coker may transfer to Bama who knows at this point, but one thing is certain, CNS will put who he thinks is the best QB, on the field next year. I'd bet a quad zillion dollars that Cokers mom won't get a guarantee from CNS that Coker will start if transferring to Bama. I seriously think at this point that Blake Sims will be the starter and also that you will see a totally different QB in Sims when he plays with the 1's.
 

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Having said that, I would believe that Sims does not fit the mold that gives us the best chance to win, based on what I have seen.
Going back to his first A-Day performance, there have been several of us that mused about what he could do with a run oriented package. I guess we were still using Wildcat as an example back then, but Nick Marshall and Auburn's is a good example now. There has even been speculation that the main reason we didn't see some Blake Sims offensive packages with the first team, simply came down to not wanting to take the ball out of AJ's hands.

I really believe Blake will be a relevant part of Alabama's offense, and it doesn't have to be to their detriment. Let's assume Coker transfers in and that he's the starter. Well, Coker is not all that experienced, especially as it pertains to Alabama's offense. So, having a few run oriented packages as part of the regular offense, that include Blake makes sense. Likewise, if Alabama wants to run out the clock later in a game, Blake is a pretty viable option as he has experience and gives more diversity than the predictable run it up the middle three times approach. I see Blake as a weapon that Alabama will put to use.

If Blake is the outright starter? I think you just introduce more things into the offense that compliment his abilities. Alabama has plenty of talent at running back, they can go more towards a run oriented offense and still win.
 

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What? Ok, sure let's move some four star WRs over to QB. You do get that Alabama only can play people at quarterback that can actually play quarterback, right?

Secondly, you seem to be ignoring what happened. Alabama had Phillip Sims, a highly rated QB. He would have been in line to start next season, but he transferred. Alabama also missed out on several QBs they were recruiting, notably Coker and Winston.

So, what do they have? They have Blake Sims, three 3 star QBs, one four star, and AJ. I don't get the negativity for Blake though. When Phillip transferred, he moved back to QB to fill the hole and he's done what is asked of him. I do think the offense would have to be changed if he is the starter, but what can Nick Marshall do that Blake can't? Alabama has a couple highly recruited QBs that should sign in the future, but one is injured and that hurts his development and one will be there in 2015, so without Phillip Sims to bridge the gap, it has to be someone else.

So you would be admitting that we are striking out on the blue bloods we've recruited at QB if this was the case? Me too. At this point I have no knowledge that that is the case. My supreme hope is that Morris, McLeod, Bateman, Del Rio, can find their way.

Fundamentally changing the offense because of Sims skill set is beyond ridiculous. Bama's identity is why we are winning. Everyone stated above was recruited to run our system, not reinvent the wheel.

If you are making my evaluation of Sims personal, that is an exercise in futility. I believe what I see. Nothing I have seen about his skill set suggest he is good enough to get it done.
 

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Going back to his first A-Day performance, there have been several of us that mused about what he could do with a run oriented package. I guess we were still using Wildcat as an example back then, but Nick Marshall and Auburn's is a good example now. There has even been speculation that the main reason we didn't see some Blake Sims offensive packages with the first team, simply came down to not wanting to take the ball out of AJ's hands.

I really believe Blake will be a relevant part of Alabama's offense, and it doesn't have to be to their detriment. Let's assume Coker transfers in and that he's the starter. Well, Coker is not all that experienced, especially as it pertains to Alabama's offense. So, having a few run oriented packages as part of the regular offense, that include Blake makes sense. Likewise, if Alabama wants to run out the clock later in a game, Blake is a pretty viable option as he has experience and gives more diversity than the predictable run it up the middle three times approach. I see Blake as a weapon that Alabama will put to use.

If Blake is the outright starter? I think you just introduce more things into the offense that compliment his abilities. Alabama has plenty of talent at running back, they can go more towards a run oriented offense and still win.
I agree that with an inexperienced QB, or should we say, not a seasoned as AJ, then using the more run oriented packages could very well be useful. And I agree that Simms is great at finishing off the clock. But, I still believe that BAMA is better with more of a traditional pro style QB. With the skill set of, well AJ :D. But, that is just my opinion. And I do see your points.
 

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