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Question: Is Andrew Luck overrated?

I think he is overrated relative to the hype.

Do I think he'll be a decent NFL quarterback? Sure, but I think he's more Eli Manning than Peyton Manning. They are acting like he's Peyton Manning, I'm not seeing it. When I watched his last game, Ryan Leaf and Reggie Bush came into mind. The west coast media is capable of really over-hyping their players and since a lot of people don't actually get to see them play it's easier to keep this illusion up.

Might he be the best QB in his class? Yes, but I don't think it's as clear as some make it out to be. I watched him play, he didn't take over the game, he's not in complete command of the game like some QBs I've seen. The fact is he hasn't shown any of the intangibles in my mind, sure he has a lot of the skills and abilities he needs, but you could name several college QBs that meet that criteria.

As the sure fire #1 overall pick and front runner for the Heisman, he is most definitely over hyped. Watch him, not like a baseball scout but like someone that evaluates his performance itself. In fact, his performance against the 104th ranked passing defense (well, it's 102 now, it got better by playing Luck if that tells you anything) was unimpressive. They gave up 276 yards on average, he threw for 275 in regulation, he had 2 TDs and a pick 6. It was a bad performance for a player that's supposed to be the best player in college football. On top of that, he's played passing defenses that are on average about 97th in passing defense. He should look awesome against them...
 
He's not 'Overrated'... but his PR campaign in running hard promoting him for the 'Heisman'.
In my book he may be this year's best QB. prospect...
Luck's a sure first round pick in the NFL, he has all the tools.
Does he make a few mistakes? Does Peyton Manning or
Drew Breeze?

The answer is yes to does he make a few mistakes.

The answer is no to 'Is he Overrated?...
 
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To me, Andrew Luck looks the part when i watch him play, the problem is that he plays against terrible defenses....

Andrew Luck (2218 yards, 23 TD, 4 int, 71% Comp pct, 277 yards/gm):
Average pass defense faced: 97
Best pass defense faced: 72 (san jose state)
Best pass defense left on schedule: Cal (33rd)

Compare that to say Robert Griffin (2375 yards, 23 TD, 4 int, 75% Comp pct, 339 yards/gm):
Average pass defense faced: 94
Best pass defens faced: 61 (TCU)
Best pass defense left on schedule: Texas (21st)

Simply for the sake of the heisman trophy look at Trents stats

Trent Richardson (989 yards, 17 TD, 212 rec yards, 1 rec TD, 123 yards/gm)
Average rush defense faced: 59
Best rush defense faced: Penn St (24th)
Best rush defense left on schedule: LSU (3rd)

Now I honestly believe that Luck is going to be a good if not great QB in the NFL but with the competition he has faced thus far in college it is tough to know that for certain, and thus i believe he is over-hyped if the hype is greatest QB to come out of college maybe ever....
 
Ole Man Dan said:
He's not 'Overrated'... but his PR campaign in running hard promoting him for the 'Heisman'.
In my book he may be this year's best QB. prospect...
Luck's a sure first round pick in the NFL, he has all the tools.
Does he make a few mistakes? Does Peyton Manning or
Drew Breeze?

The answer is yes to does he make a few mistakes.

The answer is no to 'Is he Overrated?...
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You're doing it to, comparing him to Drew Brees and Peyton.... I think we got Favre here to, but seriously? That's a lot of hype...

Yes, he might be the best quarterback in this year's class. Yes, he's a sure fire first round pick.

But they are acting like he's the best quarterback in three classes (or more) and well, comparing him to great quarterbacks. He's got a long way to go before he's compared to Peyton or Drew. I remember Leinart having a similar level of hype at one point...
 
TideEngineer08 said:
No. He's not playing with 5 star receivers, backs, and linemen. That USC team will send more people to the NFL than that Stanford team will. Luck is leading a team with talent comparable to a Northwestern to a possible NC. Don't get me wrong, Harbaugh really coached that group up. But Luck is the ring leader.
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Pffft. You obviously haven't been listening to the media. Stanford a complete team. ;)
 
KrAzY3 said:
You're doing it to, comparing him to Drew Brees and Peyton.... I think we got Favre here to, but seriously? That's a lot of hype...

Yes, he might be the best quarterback in this year's class. Yes, he's a sure fire first round pick.

But they are acting like he's the best quarterback in three classes (or more) and well, comparing him to great quarterbacks. He's got a long way to go before he's compared to Peyton or Drew. I remember Leinart having a similar level of hype at one point...
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Re-read my post... I asked if Peyton or Drew ever made a mistake. I didn't infer that Luck was in the same class. Give him 5-6 years and he may or may not be in their class.
I used two NFL greats to answer the question 'Do great QB's make mistakes'?
Please reconsider :)
Don't read anything else into my post...
The Original post asked if we thought Luck was overrated. I said NO.
I did make the mistake of putting Luck in the same class as others who have thrown a 'Pick 6'.
No More, No Less, should be read into my reply.
 
I have watched every Stanford game to date this year. What many of you fail to see is that Luck can make all the throws. And I mean all the throws!!! His arm is as accurate and strong as anyone's in college football today! That is a fact! Watch the accuracy and "oomph" he puts on the ball and to say the kid is over rated is a bit ridiculous. Does he play against inferior defense, yes, can we come up with 20 other different reasons, yes. But if you look at his ability from a pure NFL future player analysis, this guy has it all!
 
rizolltizide said:
Pffft. You obviously haven't been listening to the media. Stanford a complete team. ;)
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Yep. A complete team that would get steamrolled by BAMA or LSU.:cool:

But seriously, I didn't know about the recruiting rankings that DiamondDust posted. So no, Stanford isn't as low as Northwestern on talent level. But they're not at USC's level (even considering USC's probation).
 
Bear Disciple said:
Don't get me wrong, he is a phenomenal QB, but IMO, with the all hype they've given him, it's impossible not to be overrated.
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This.

He's very good, better skill-set than recent hyped guys like Bradford and Stafford, I think. But when I hear talk of tanking a season, I expect the effort to be for the next Peyton Manning, which Luck won't be.
 
Ole Man Dan said:
Re-read my post... I asked if Peyton or Drew ever made a mistake. I didn't infer that Luck was in the same class. Give him 5-6 years and he may or may not be in their class.
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It wasn't just you though, and you did just infer that Luck might be in their class. Another poster brought up Peyton and Favre. I mean I understand it, but my point is we are kind of brainwashed into putting Luck on these tremendously lofty pedestals and it's hype pure and simple.

For instance, I've seen a lot of college players discussed here, I haven't seen people quick to draw comparisons to NFL greats to defend players. The thing is the comparisons don't really have any solid ground other than the fact that they both play the same position.

Emmitt Smith has more in common with Trent Richardson (same high school, both played in the SEC, both strong runners) than either of those players yet we don't usually toss Emmitt's name out there when discussing Trent. That's because we haven't been brainwashed into buying into the hype. It's not logical, but Andrew has forgone the college ranks and somehow has earned comparisons to the greatest NFL players already and that's just odd in my opinion. May be I could get someone bringing up Aaron Rodgers, but when we discuss Alabama players we don't usually bring up Derrick Thomas and Bart Starr do we? To me it just speaks to the hype surrounding him.

Finally, I do think he has the abilities and skills to be a great quarterback, but there's a lot of guys that can apply to. He has a long way to becoming a good NFL quarterback, much less a great one. So, without a doubt he is over-hyped. I even get him being a #1 pick, but if you want to be reasonable, compare him to Sam Bradford, and Matthew Stafford. I'll spare you the comparisons of the previous west coast #1 picks (Alex Smith, David Carr, and Carson Palmer) but I see no logical reasons to go beyond Bradford and Stafford.
 
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REBELZED said:
The conspiracy theorist in me makes me wonder about the state of affairs in Indianapolis when their franchise QB is getting older/injured and one of the best QB prospect in years is coming out this year... ;)
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I'll do you one better....wanna know what made Luck go back for his senior season? A conversation with Peyton Manning. Wouldn't it be ironic if Luck winds up being his successor after he was the one to convince him to return for his senior campaign?
 
WMack4Bama said:
I'll do you one better....wanna know what made Luck go back for his senior season? A conversation with Peyton Manning. Wouldn't it be ironic if Luck winds up being his successor after he was the one to convince him to return for his senior campaign?
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Wow! Where is my tin hat? Colts tank season and get "lucky?"
 
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