i just know that they fair caught it about at the 20OK, so nobody has answered my question (and I haven't looked it up)... how long was the punt?
i just know that they fair caught it about at the 20OK, so nobody has answered my question (and I haven't looked it up)... how long was the punt?
pretty sure they didnt get the ball.... The defender kinda hit his legs from behind... Went past JK a little bitI don't know about the fair game thing, but the refs indicated they thought the defender got a part of the ball, so either way it didn't matter.
Quarterbacks have been getting hit after their passes have been released since the invention of the forward pass.So, if a QB fumbles the snap, recovers it, then goes back to pass and does so -- can you hit him after the pass as long as the play hasn't been whistled dead? Because to me, that's a dangerous precedent to set....
The actual rule:So, if a QB fumbles the snap, recovers it, then goes back to pass and does so -- can you hit him after the pass as long as the play hasn't been whistled dead? Because to me, that's a dangerous precedent to set....
Unfortunately, I'm operating off of memory as I cannot find video of it at the moment. I would figure "running" instead of "roughing" only because, thanks to the fumbled snap, there's no way for him to not know for certain (until committed) that Scott wasn't going to try and run with it. Still, should have been a penalty according to the rules.Roughing or Running Into Kicker or Holder
9-1-16-a
2014 PenaltyA.R.Info
When it is obvious that a scrimmage kick will be made, no opponent shall run into or rough the kicker or the holder of a place kick (A.R. 9-1-16-I, III and VI).
Roughing is a live-ball personal foul that endangers the kicker or holder.
Running into the kicker or holder is a live-ball foul that occurs when the kicker or holder is displaced from his kicking or holding position but is not roughed (A.R. 9-1-16-II). Note:
Running into the kicker carries a five-yard penalty at the previous spot.
Incidental contact with a kicker or holder is not a foul.
The kicker’s protection under this rule ends (a)when he has had a reasonable time to regain his balance (A.R. 9-1-16-IV); or (b)when he carries the ball outside the tackle box (Rule 2-34) before kicking.
When a defensive player’s contact against the kicker or holder is caused by an opponent’s block (legal or illegal), there is no foul for running into or roughing.
A player who makes contact with the kicker or holder after touching the kick is not charged with running into or roughing the kicker.
When a player other than one who blocks a scrimmage kick runs into or roughs the kicker or holder, it is a foul.
When in question whether the foul is running into or roughing, the foul is roughing.
I thought that was for sure blocked. I was thinking man... we just gave them 3 points.So exactly how long was that punt on Saturday when he had trouble catching the bad snap, had serious pressure, took one step, and got no roll at all? That was unbelievable. Great job, JK!
I don't think you can get a roughing call after the ball was fumbled. What a great punter he has been in his freshman year. Can you imagine how far he'll be able to punt the ball once he gets a bit of weight training.We should have gotten roughing the kicker too. But it worked out ok![]()
That's what several of us thought, too, but see skrayper77's post above. Looks like we were all remembering something else and that perhaps running into the kicker could have been called.I don't think you can get a roughing call after the ball was fumbled. What a great punter he has been in his freshman year. Can you imagine how far he'll be able to punt the ball once he gets a bit of weight training.
well the finalist are Rehkow, Hackett, and scott. They all average 47 yards, but Rehkow is 47.8 while hackett and scott are both 47. Hackett is leading in total yards punted then its followed by Scott and then rehkow (in the order of the finalist). IDK how they choose the Ray Guy specifically, but I hope Scott brings home Bama's first.Unless there's a punter I don't about that is having a better year he should be a shoe in for the Ray Guy award.
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