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Joe Namath rants about Zach Wilson (espn article)

Con said:
I think about this every week I see Wilson play.
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Namath probably is too, without saying it.
That comment seems a bit harsh coming from Joe though, but obviously he's passionate about the Jets.
 
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Probius said:
Taking Wilson with the #2 pick was a bad choice. He played against poor competition at BYU and I didn't understand why the Jets picked him. He looks like a small child.
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Scouts lost their collective minds over his workouts/vids. You know the one where he did the pocket moves and spins etc then chunked it 70 yards. Looked cool but doesn’t mean much in terms of realized production. They took a chance on potential and got burned like every bottom dweller. The nfl has too many teams and not enough good qbs. Would be a much better product with a few less teams
 
Joefus said:
Loved Mac in college but I’m not sure he’s even gonna get a 5th year in NE. He looks to be a career backup after his rookie contract is up
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He is on a horrible team and what has become a sad shell of a franchise it once was.

He has no outside playmakers. His offensive line is barely serviceable. And his head coach had the idiocy to hire a failed defensive coordinator to call plays and then hired Bill O'Brien this year (which is still a massive upgrade over Patricia).

Yet he has still proven to anyone willing to observe that he is an NFL starter. Like so many, it truly depends on what franchise drafts you. Of those teams which picked a QB in the first round of Mac's draft class, all of them absolutely stunk except the 49ers. And the 49ers too had a chance to pick him and should have picked him! They wasted that pick on another massively overrated player who had no business being a 1st round pick as a QB. Trey Lance was a 5th round project at best and they wasted a 1st round draft choice.

I guarantee you had Mac been chose by San Francisco, right now he would be in the running for NFL MVP right alongside Tua.

So you are probably right, Mac won't get a 5th year in NE. Because NE has become about as moronic as the NY Jets. Buffalo and Miami have left them in the dust in that division. Whether or not he becomes a career backup remains to be seen. It's really difficult to overcome that 1st contract when it comes from a franchise that's clueless.
 
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Honestly, my biggest issue with Mac in the NFL is that he does kind of seem to be a dirty player. Idk if what Sauce Gardner said about him is true or not but there are other instances of him being a bit of a dirty player.


As for Wilson? Yea he's terrible. Idk how I feel about Namath bashing him so hard but he's also not wrong at all so I don't blame him.
 
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DzynKingRTR said:
do you think Mac stinks or do you think the Pats aren't smart enough to keep him?
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Stinks is a strong word. I think he has some shortcomings in his game that are gonna handicap him in the present and the future. Could he succeed in a near perfect situation such as SF? Sure but there’s not a whole lot of teams that have the offensive talent to mask some parts of his game. General managers are always gonna use the draft or a proven veteran than taking a chance on someone in the position Mac is. Fair or not I just don’t see him getting another crack at being an nfl starter outside the starter going down with an injury. It’s a crapshoot and whether your team stinks or not you gotta have some kind of tape to warrant a gm staking his career on you. Just my two cents and would love to be proven wrong
 
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Not pertinent to this thread..but I always thought Joe would have made a great Offensive Coordinator. I guess he was never interested in that. He could flat out read Defenses.
 
Mac plays on a team that has been ran by a mad man for years and everyone is now seeing why Brady got out of dodge on his final contract.

They are getting better but the fallout of Belichick’s handling the GM spot is still being felt.
 
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Mac needs better weapons at receiver, but I am beginning to wonder if he can make some of the throws down the field into tight windows. Really hard to say because of the talent around him. But it won't matter. Most NFL QBs lack talent around them and the great ones still find a way. He isn't getting it done, and that is all that matters in this game. Fairness is not even a consideration.
 
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B1GTide said:
Mac needs better weapons at receiver, but I am beginning to wonder if he can make some of the throws down the field into tight windows. Really hard to say because of the talent around him. But it won't matter. Most NFL QBs lack talent around them and the great ones still find a way. He isn't getting it done, and that is all that matters in this game. Fairness is not even a consideration.
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You are right. That's why I said it was so hard to overcome that first contract as a QB if you don't get the right spot. It's true that the really great QBs can overcome. But those are really far and few between.

I just look at Tua. And Tua is far from out of the woods right now. He's just 3 games into this year, and he hasn't been healthy through a full season yet. But if he manages to play throughout this season, look at how differently things are for him due to the changes Miami made after his first couple of seasons. We're talking about going from a massive bust in his draft class to maybe the best QB in the league.

Yeah, I can see that Mac may not be a top 10 QB in the NFL. But I think he is a bonafide career starter but not with NE. Not with how they've been constituted since he was drafted. And Joefus is right. Teams are going to go on his film, not his potential. They are not going to care about who NE has at WR or calling plays.

I was trying to think about QBs who didn't make it with their first team, but then got traded and blossomed. They are out there but it's not often that it happens.
 
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